Kosovo Blowback Reaches America
The story: four Albanian Muslims from Kosovo, plus a Turk and a Jordanian, are arrested for conspiring to attack Fort Dix, a military base in New Jersey, with AK47s and “to kill as many soldiers as possible” (U.S. Attorney’s Office).
The Mainstream Media spin: “Four of them were born in the former Yugoslavia” (The New York Times); “One of the suspects was born in Jordan, another in Turkey… [t]he rest are believed to be from the former Yugoslavia” (CNN); “Four of the men were born in the former Yugoslavia, one in Jordan and one in Turkey” (MSNBC); “One of the suspects was born in Turkey and four in the former Yugoslavia” (AP), und so weiter…
The names of the four “Yugoslavs” are Dritan Duka, Eljvir Duka, Shain Duka (three brothers, all of them in the United States illegally), and Agron Abdullahu. Those are Albanian names, of course, but not one in a hundred Americans knows that. In fact, grasping that they are Albanians and knowing that “ethnic Albanian” plus “Muslim from the former Yugoslavia” equals “Kosovo,” is the privilege of experts. It is but one of many Balkan equations that mainstream media editors are determined to keep hidden from their consumers. That there is nothing in the federal complaint about the “Yugoslav” suspects’ origins is almost certainly the result of political interference.
White House spokesman Tony Snow was quick to assure us there is “no direct evidence” that the men arrested in the Fort Dix plot have ties to international terrorism. His meta-message is clear: The Administration knows it cannot keep the Albanian identity of four “Yugoslav” suspects concealed for ever, but it wants to pre-empt any suspicion that an independent KosovA would be a black hole of jihad-terrorism in the heart of Europe. Hastily denying the group’s link to al-Qaeda and other global networks is a political necessity for the proponents of Kosovo’s independence, not necessarily the reality.
Having been assured ad nauseam over the years by successive U.S. administrations that Kosovo’s Albanians are not really serious about their Islam, that even when they desecrate Christian churches and joyously rip crosses from their cupolas they do it for nationalist rather than jihadist reasons, the powers-that-be are doing their utmost to ensure that the public remains anesthetized. Asking when and how Albanian “secularists” became Islamic radicals is a no-no. Being so audacious as to wonder what this transformation bodes for a new, independent Muslim state in the heart of Europe is simply not on. Asking questions about major KLA figures’ documented links to jihad terrorism (including to Osama bin Laden personally) is polizeilich verboten. In the meantime, cadres, cash and ordnance linked to jihadist outrages all over Europe have been traced back to Kosovo, including the bombings in Madrid (March 2004) and London (July 2005), and a rocket attack on the U.S. embassy in Athens last year.
In New Jersey in May 2007, Kosovo blowback has finally reached America.
It is now essential to unmask the web of lies and distortions that has guided U.S. policy in the Balkans for years. The first step is to demand an explanation why and how Muslim Albanian terrorists from Kosovo were able to plan an operation here in the U.S. Why indeed: didn’t the U.S. military fight the Serbs for 78 days in 1999 so that they could have their ethnically clrean, Serbenfrei statelet? As a Washingtonian insider points out,
For almost a decade the U.S. government (or more precisely a handful of State Department bureaucrats and a few Congressmen) have placed the U.S. firmly on the side of the KLA and have helped created a haven for their operations. Even worse, KLA supporters in the United States have operated with virtual impunity, collecting money and weapons to support KLA operations not only in Kosovo, but in neighboring areas of southern Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, and northern Greece.
He reminds us that in 2004 Dutch television broadcast a documentary of Kosovo Albanian Muslims legally buying weapons in the U.S. and shipping them to Kosovo is support of their “liberation war” in violation of numerous U.S. laws, including the Neutrality Act: “The documentary then showed the same Albanians at a fundraiser in New York writing hefty checks to American politicians of both parties. There is no public indication that any action was taken by federal or state law enforcement agencies.”
But like the Bourbons of yore, KosovA enthusiasts inside the Beltway learn nothing and forget nothing. At last Tuesday’s open hearing of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, titled “The Outlook for the Independence of Kosova” (sic!), the Committee’s Chairman, Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA), declared urbi et orbi:
“Just a reminder to the predominantly Muslim-led governments in this world that here is yet another example that the United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe. This should be noted by both responsible leaders of Islamic governments, such as Indonesia, and also for jihadists of all color and hue. [sic!] The United States’ principles are universal, and in this instance, the United States stands foursquare for the creation of an overwhelmingly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe.”
On that same occasion Ms. Rice’s No. 2, Under Secretary for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns, reiterated the U.S. position that immediate independence without standards or compromise is a must lest the Albanians get nasty: “the prospects for violence would be greater if we waited, because 92 to 94 percent of the people who now live in Kosovo are Albanian Muslims. They have been waiting a long, long time.”
Albanian Muslims, mind. Not Albanians, not “Kosovars,” not “Yugoslavs.” As Julia Gorin pointed out, Mr. Burns also didn’t miss the opportunity to invoke the usual Nazi imagery in reference to the Serbs, while praising the Kosovo prime minister Agim Ceku, an indicted Serb-slaughterer, as “impressive” and “worthy.” That’s the broad picture, dear reader, and a bunch of overexcitable, non-al-Qaeda-connected “Yugoslavs” from New Jersey will not be allowed to disturb it.
And yes, Mr. Lantos’s “jihadists of all color and hue” are taking note.
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Re Trifkovic-Milosevic-Karadzic "connection," please see
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5547
which has D. Horowitz's apology to me personally:
Frontpage regrets characterizations of Serge Trifkovic... that were made in an article by Stephen Schwartz (CAIR's Axis of Evil) to the effect that Trifkovic... "was the main advocate in the West for the regime of Slobodan Milosevic." Serge Trifkovic... was not a supporter of Slobodan Milsoevic... Frontpage regrets any pain or injury this may have caused to Mr. Trifkovic.-- David Horowitz
It also has my response to Schwartz (a self-avowed "Jew for Allah" whose Muslim name is Suleyman Ahmad) in which I state, inter alia:
[T]he claim that I was "the main public advocate in the West for the regime of Slobodan Milosevic" is as unfunny as it is untrue. It is also hurtful to me personally in view of the many risks I have taken with my long and well documented position vis-a-vis Mr. Milosevic. Let us therefore leave rhetoric aside and look at a small segment of verbatim quotes from my extensive record of articles and interviews on the subject of the former Serbian president, starting 13 years ago and continuing until our time:
"Slobodan Milosevic is cynically exploiting the nationalist awakening to perpetuate Communist rule and his own power in the eastern half of Yugoslavia." U.S. News & World Report, June 18, 1990
"Communist leader Slobodan Milosevic needs outside enemies to halt the erosion of his popularity... Yugoslavia could be well on its way to becoming the Lebanon of Europe." U.S. News & World Report, November 12, 1990
"Demagogue and populist." The Yugoslav Crisis and the United States. Stanford: Hoover Institution, 1991
"Trifkovic said he [was] critical of the authoritarian rule of Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic and has called for his removal from office and democratic reforms." The Plain Dealer (Cleveland), Sunday, September 6, 1992, p. 6-B
"[Trusting] Milosevic is like giving a bloodbank to Count Drakula." The Times (London), Thursday, November 23, 1995, p. 16
"Milosevic has used his newly-fangled international legitimacy [after Dayton] to stifle even further all political opposition and to reassert state control." The Phoenix Gazette, Tuesday, March 19, 1996, p. B5
"Milosevic is afraid of having Mladic and Karadzic delivered to The Hague not because of the possibility of a Serb backlash in Serbia itself, but because those two know quite a lot about Milosevic's own role in the early days of the Yugoslav war, in '91 and '92." BBC World Service TV, "Newsdesk" (live) 10:25GMT, Wednesday, 29 May 1996
"For Mr. Milosevic, the very existence of any alternative to his own power is not legitimate. Even the current façade of multi-party system he allowed only under pressure, treating it as something odious and temporary." The Phoenix Gazette, Wednesday, December 18, 1996, p. B4
"The sanctions had proved an absolute boon to Milosevic. He could blame them for the abysmal economic situation in the country, which was in fact due to the structural defects of an inefficient socialist economy - an economy he was unwilling to reform... Milosevic could observe with calm equanimity the exodus of about a quarter of a million predominantly young and well-educated urban Serbs. Those who had provided the backbone of political opposition to his government were emigrating, and he was staying." Chronicles, June 1997
"An incorrigible communist and blunderer."
The Philadelphia Inquirer, Saturday, September 6, 1997
"Milosevic... manipulates these crises to preserve his power. With each new surrender he is temporarily converted by the West from the Beast of the Balkans into the Necessary Partner. This outcome would be awful for Serbia. The nation should lose its tyrant, not its borders." The Times (London), Thursday, March 18, 1999
"Albright and Milosevic manipulate each other and deserve each other... He had always been a recycled Communist apparatchik who manipulated the thetoric of nationalism in order to extend his shelf life. And his behaviour had always been personally functional, but systematically, from the viewpoint of Serb interests, dysfunctional. That's why Serbs are in such a dire predicament right now."
CNN, Friday, March 26, 1999.
"Milosevic [is] a misshapen tyrant who will not flap his wings as long as he can feed on the evr-shrinking innards of Inner Serbia." The Philadelphia Inquirer, Monday, November 22, 1999, p. A15
"Serbia, thanks to Milosevic, acquired the image of the last bastion of communism in Europe." Testimony to the Canadian House of Commons, February 17, 2000
"Milosevic in Serbia and President Franjo Tudjman in Croatia were both busy establishing a quasi-dictatorial post-communist regime, and they needed vulgar nationalism - for a time - to outbid the most vulgar nationalists." The Oxford Companion to Politics of the World. Oxford University Press, 2001, p. 80
"Something has snapped in the minds of many Serbs. They can now visualize Serbia after Milosevic. They can visualize Serbia without sanctions and without the shame that he has brought upon his people. . . And once they lose their respect, they will loss fear. And once they lose fear, they may end up lynching him." CNN Headline News, live, Saturday, September 30, 2000, 6:10 p.m. Eastern
"Like some crazed anti-Midas, in his 13 years of chaotically autocratic rule Milosevic destroyed everything he touched... [He] cared not a hoot for his people's interests or dignity, and turned his country into a corrupt, mafia-infested basket case. Milosevic's arrogance and low cunning were matched only by his utter inability to devise a coherent strategy of anything - including his own political survival. . . It will take Serbia decades to recover from this awful man." Chronicles Online, April 14, 2001
The list goes on, but this small sample should suffice. Of course I opposed the misguided NATO intervention in the Balkans, and the systematic misrepresentation of the wars of Yugoslav succession by the likes of Schwartz. In doing so I was in good company on both Left and Right, and on both sides of the Atlantic...
I have met Karadzic during my many trips to the Balkans but I never "worked" for him. Yes, I was Plavsic's consultant during her brief presidency (1998), when she was persona gratissima in Washington, where I accompanied her during her visit in May of that year. She was certainly not a "member of the Milosevic regime" -- quite the contrary, she was his determined foe, which made it possible for me to help her, and made her attractive in the eyes of the U.S. Administration.
And they say it's a small world. I was mobilized with my National Guard unit last fall for duty in Iraq, sent to Ft. Dix, and ordered pizza from the only place that delivered to our barracks. (Our choices were Chinese and the pizza parlor in question.) It was too easy - other soldiers told us that they'd be there in a snap, as they knew where the barracks was, etc. None of us thought a thing about it; we're hip-deep in Iraq, but 5+ years after 9/11, our security, even on a military post used as the major staging area for Guard/Reserve units deploying to Iraq, is still virtually nil.
My solution? Order a "Pork-Lovers' Special," and serve it to them for their last meal before their execution. I hereby volunteer for firing-squad duty.
-Lloyd A. Conway
Mr Iliya Pavlovich
the bus hijacked from the albanian emigrant in greece was not related with any terrorism organisation.
the real reason was that this gentleman worked for a greek farmer for 6 months and he refused to give him his money, The albanian guy came from a very poor village of albania to make some money helping his family. in a very bad psychological condition he decided to hijack a public bus asking his money.
all the hostages was rescued
i dont understand why are you relating this story with the terrorism.
theres one and only reason mr Iliya Pavlovich to give albainians a bad name before the Decision Of the indipendence of KOSOVO.
well i am so sorry to inform you that thanks god albanians have proven long time ago the frienship to the american people.
NOmatter how hard sick nationalists like yourself try to spread antialbanian propaganda KOSOVO indipendence is already signed.
Theres nothing you can do.SErbian epoke is over.
Ps : Who supported the american goverment in the case of 4 chinese prisioners. named by chinese goverment as terrorists ?
ALBANIA was the only country that rescued american fereign politic from the diplomatica agravation with china.
So to me this is just an insulated case. They dont rapresent albanian people . They dont even claim anything in the name of albania. they are brainwashed form the fake islam predictions .
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It is appalling that some one would expect to gain insight about the Albanian people from someone whose name ends with -Kovic. Let's face it, nutrality is just a term for intolerant idealist. I have studied Albanian culture and have grown to love it for several reasons but the most improtant: their rich history of hospitality and support of other nations in times of need. if it wasn't for the Albanians, I am referring here to Christ's Athlete (do some reading to find out), many parts of Europe would have been speaking Turkish by now !!!
No doubt it would be nice to gain an insight into the Albanian people, but it is of more interest to know what has been going on (and is going on) in the the 'former Yugoslavia' and, just as important, what my country's government has been up to over there. Information is available from a range a sources - only a minority of informants have names endings in '-kovic'.
Here is a piece by Michael Meacher - a former Minister in the UK government.
"Less well known is evidence of the British government's relationship with a wider Islamist terrorist network. During an interview on Fox TV this summer, the former US federal prosecutor John Loftus reported that British intelligence had used the al-Muhajiroun group in London to recruit Islamist militants with British passports for the war against the Serbs in Kosovo. Since July Scotland Yard has been interested in an alleged member of al-Muhajiroun, Haroon Rashid Aswat, who some sources have suggested could have been behind the London bombings.
According to Loftus, Aswat was detained in Pakistan after leaving Britain, but was released after 24 hours. He was subsequently returned to Britain from Zambia, but has been detained solely for extradition to the US, not for questioning about the London bombings. Loftus claimed that Aswat is a British-backed double agent, pursued by the police but protected by MI6."
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,1566919,00.html
School bus is not nearly as benign as it seems to be. If we all expressed our grievances by employing retribution of any kind (let alone hijacking a school-bus with children) the entire world would be a complete CHAOS. Where are the traces of humanity and civility among the people who are proponents of Islam? Nowhere. The Interpol alone has devoted half of its manpower to search for various Albanians. Granted Mother Theres was also Albanian, but shuch a strong propensity towards crime and such ample evidence on past (as well as) ongoing criminal activities only become that much more prominent when the idea of Islamic Jihad is introduced - Didn't those numbskulls shout "Allahu Akbar". If my brain operated at only 30% capacity I'd be a little concerned not to mention suspicious and puzzled with Albanian true motives.
What are those good traits that Albanians have exibite throughout history?
1. They shot Serbian women and children while crossing frozen mountains January 1916 in spite of King Zog's (Albanian king) who decreed that Albanian treat Serbian refugees with kindness and even accept their paper money - FAT CHANCE.
2. The entire Kosovo region has been Serbian for hundreds of years (how else woule the names of the rivers, mountains and towns be so clearly Serbian, how else would there be such a presence of Easter Orthodox Serbian Christian monuments, cemetaries, etc.?)
3. Albanian willingness to side against Serbians (with Turks during the Ottoman empire, with Germans during WW2) clearly shows that their appetite for the land of the Serbian neighbors has been on the increase.
4. Albanian mafia is involved in a lot more than drug trafficking and whitle slavery - both highly profitable activites where money can be funneled towars Albanian sources in the West (politicians of all nations are equally susceptable to receiveing large amounts of money for their "views' - voices).
5. Albanian Semitic Origin (ethnically Souther shores of the Caspian Sea - today's Azarbeijan, Iran, Eastern Turkey) makes them unwelcome in among both Greeks and Serbs. Their lands were awarded to them by a congress (London 1912) as follows:
"Creating a new state Shortly after the defeat of Turkey by the Balkan allies, a conference of ambassadors of the Great Powers (Britain, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary, France, and Italy) convened in London in December 1912 to settle the outstanding issues raised by the conflict. With support given to the Albanians by Austria-Hungary and Italy, the conference agreed to create an independent state of Albania. But, in drawing the borders of the new state, owing to strong pressure from Albania's neighbours, the Great Powers largely ignored demographic realities and ceded the vast region of Kosova to Serbia, while, in the south, Greece was given the greater part of ‚ameria, a part of the old region of Epirus centred on the Thamis River. Many observers doubted whether the new state would be viable with about one-half of Albanian lands and population left outside its borders, especially since these lands were the most productive in food grains and livestock. On the other hand, a small community of about 35,000 ethnic Greeks was included within Albania's borders. (However, Greece, which counted all Albanians of the Orthodox faith--20 percent of the population--as Greeks, claimed that the number of ethnic Greeks was considerably larger.) Thereafter, Kosova and the‚ cameria remained troublesome issues in Albanian-Greek and Albanian-Yugoslav relations. The Great Powers also appointed a German prince, Wilhelm Wied, as ruler of Albania. Wilhelm arrived in Albania in March 1914, but his unfamiliarity with Albania and its problems, compounded by complications arising from the outbreak of World War I, led him to depart from Albania six months later. The war plunged the country into a new crisis, as the armies of Austria-Hungary, France, Italy, Greece, Montenegro, and Serbia invaded and occupied it. Left without any political leadership or authority, the country was in chaos, and its very fate hung in the balance. At the Paris Peace Conference after the war, the extinction of Albania was averted largely through the efforts of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, who vetoed a plan by Britain, France, and Italy to partition Albania among its neighbours."
XX. With friends like that - who need enemies?
It is no longer a question whether or not Albanians are louts – they are. In addition to which they (Albanians) went out of their way to prove their qualities (lack thereof) over the last 100 years (ever since they were granted statehood).
When there are such negative social dynamics, we see exactly what we see with Albanians:
1. School bus hijacked – never-mind it was a reasonable grievance, over lack of pay. Really?
2. Thousands of women sold to slavery – never-mind Islam condones it. A little conflicting with Christian views?
3. Major drug trafficking operations including dominance over Sicilian mafia in certain parts of Europe – never-mind.
4. Consistently most frequently wanted felons and criminals since the inception of Interpol throughout Europe – never-mind. OK, we won’t mind.
5. Never at friendly terms with any of their neighbors (NEVER-EVER) – never-mind. You can’t be friends with everybody especially if there are only two states you are bordering.
6. The few “brain-washed Albanians” caught in this Fort Dix plot – never-mind they were brain washed? Yeah, right.
7. The only ally Albania ever had was China while it was at odds with Stalin and Khruschev – it was an artificial alliance which lasted only during the rule of Mao. Today’s foreign relations of China proper are probably strongest with Serbia and the United States.
8. If I had a school-age daughter I would (probably) try to avoid sending her to school taught by convicted rapists.
That is about how much Albania and all things Albanians must be avoided. It is not only a matter of Serbian Christians loosing some small portion of their ancestral lands – it is another way that Islam creeps into Europe through a back-door. It is exactly why Turkey is not having an easy time getting accepted into the EU. Europe does not want any cannibals, criminals, rapists, drug traffickers, smugglers, etc. That’s the crux of the current events which only caught a few thousand remaining Serbians at God’s mercy for the next few decades, as I am convinced that this probably unavoidable injustice will be reversed.
Aside from all the above Albanians have always chosen wrong sides in every European conflict, while they wanted independence from Turkey – they equally became Turkish allies and suppliers of scalps. The very word ARNAUT – used by today’s Albanians referring to themselves is of Turkish origin and means “stable boy-cleaner” “horse watcher, trainer”. There was also that other power during WW2 where Albanians jumped at the opportunity to wear a swastika.
Europe already had some rather unpleasant (not to say bloody) encounters with Islam (all of Spain, good Southern half of France, much of Austro-Hungary – today’s Croatia, Serbia, Greece – and they are not looking to re-learn the same lesson, but they figure “ahh, it’s only a few thousand Serbs, this will satisfy their appetite, so they won’t come to our country’s front door”. Dead wrong. They will come, and they are coming.
Don’t rejoice quite yet. Stalinism didn’t last forever. Ancient Roman conquest of Gaul didn’t last forever. Nazi Germany didn’t last the promised thousand years.
Historical facts indicate the Albanian population of Kosovo tripled during the communist rule of Tito. Tito couldn’t forego the need to thumb his nose at the Russians as his loans from IMF depended on British, German, French and American say. This resulted in Willy Brandt and Konrad Adenauer before him, being fooled while trying to minimize German reparations to Yugoslavia. Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan, Harold Wilson equally being fooled by Tito’s alliance with (Nehru – the exception), Gamal Abdel Nasser, Jomo Kenyata, Kwame N’Krumah and similar characters of dubious background, with blood of their people on their hands. Tito’s other influence was to allow “slightly porous” borders with Albania as to thumb his nose at Enver Xoxcha the Maoist leader of Albania. He further announced that he would personally be a godfather to any family’s 10th child. For all of you learned American readers some of this may come as a surprise – but when it comes to Albania you simply learn that there is always some element of surprise and it can only go from bad to worse. These facts remain undisputed, and a matter of public knowledge and record. The danger or Islam is both real and imminent. Giving away a few hundred square miles in Southern Europe may not seem like huge concession to Islam but the repercussion will be seen and heard throughout Europe both, soon and fast.
That is the real story behind the “brain-washed few Albanians” planning the attack on Fort Dix. Therein is the danger of a society (entire Albania) not mature enough – neither politically nor socially to be a member of the United Nations and even remotely attempting to protect some “other” views, religions, nations. Nope, such a stand is mysteriously hidden within the present day Albanians regardless of where they live.
As requested by "David Rolfe" and "Jerome", this is some small insight into Albanians NOT coming from a last name ending with KOVIC, however all the facts are a matter of public record at numerous sources - don't take my word for it. Go to Albania - I've been there dozens of times.
"As requested by “David Rolfe” and “Jerome”, this is some small insight into Albanians NOT coming from a last name ending with KOVIC...."
A request some small insight into Albanians NOT coming from a last name ending with KOVIC...."? From me? You misunderstood me,
"Iliya Pavlovich".
I am happier to take the word of some someone with a last name ending in '-kovic' than from from someone who name ends in '-lair', or '-ush'.
Sorry Rolfy,
I misunderstood your sentence "only a minority of informants have names endings in ‘-kovic’." - that wasn't ever written by you - it was some ghost or some other entity on your keyboard - certainly not you.
Of course, you know that there are many lies here, regardless of who has posted them and you'll have the integrity and courage to identify them (enumarate them) with some degree of reliable sources outside of Islamofascist propaganda? - Of course you do - you just don't feel like that right now. What exactly is untrue or inaccurate about this tragic Islamic conquest which is hitting us all over the head and we are playing a role of some dumbfounded good Samaritan who is stupid, blind and dim-witted?
Sorry Rolfy,
I misunderstood your sentence "only a minority of informants have names endings in ‘-kovic’." - that wasn't ever written by you - it was some ghost or some other entity on your keyboard - certainly not you.
Of course, you know that there are many lies here, regardless of who has posted them and you'll have the integrity and courage to identify them (enumarate them) with some degree of reliable sources outside of Islamofascist propaganda? - Of course you do - you just don't feel like that right now. What exactly is untrue or inaccurate about this tragic Islamic conquest which is hitting us all over the head and we are playing a role of some dumbfounded good Samaritan who is stupid, blind and dim-witted? Wasn't it you that said: "I am happier to take the word of some someone with a last name ending in ‘-kovic’ than from from someone who name ends in ‘-lair’, or ‘-ush’."?
Unless that was a provocation?
I would like to dismiss my presence from this webpage but with due respect Mr. Pavlovich I would like to say that I am stunned with your inconsistent protrayal of facts. There is a world of evidence that speaks to the contrary.
Let me remind you of a saying by Rudolf Ludwig Karl Virchow, one of the greatest German pathologists, and anthropologists about Albanians:"Voila la race vraiment superieure de ces contrees." (Further interpretation provided upon request.) Which begs the question is it Albanians or Serbians that define your passinate anger toward such a people!!
Correct me if I am wrong but was it the Albanians that assassinated King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia? (No need for answers here!) How about Karageorge ("Black George") murdered in 1817 by by his rival Milos Obrenovich, who had him killed with an axe and sent his head to the Sultan in Constantinople? Was that a favor to the Turks? I am not certain but I am starting to think that you might be reading some French History here! (Well that's another subject for discussion...)
....Here is another trustworthy statement:"In 3200 BC, there were many, many languages spoken besides Sumerian and Egyptian, but they were not fortunate enough to have a writing system. These languages are just as old. To take one interesting case, the Albanian language (spoken north of Greece) was not written down until about the 15th century AD, yet Ptolemy mentions the people in the first century BC.* The linguistic and archaeological evidence suggests that Albanians were a distinct people for even longer than that. So Albanian has probably existed for several millennia, but has only been written down for 500 years. With a twist of fate, Albanian might be considered very "old" and Greek pretty "new".
Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Linguistic PhD
Not cencerned with the fluff here, - just gathering some evidence to dispute the lack of historicity in the formentioned comments.
How about a dose of the Massacre in Scutari? In which the bayonets pierce the inoccent children while in their fetuses? Let's not marginalize what is happening as a result of human depravity. You as well as any other human being are capable of dishonoring our Creator by performing barbaric acts. It is by God's (Christ's if you desire spesifics!) grace that we are what we are and lets allow ouselves to bring a part of our American dream to all Serbians and Albanians alike...
Jerome...
Iliya Pavlovich
“only a minority of informants have names endings in ‘-kovic’.” - that wasn’t ever written by you - it was some ghost or some other entity on your keyboard - certainly not you."
I was merely referring to the well-known fact that that there are a number of non-Serbs among those who have tried to open the eyes of Westerners to what has being going on in Serbia. I think that it was John Laughland, writing in The Spectator, who first alerted me to the fact that the wool was being pulled over our eyes. Then there were Diana Johnstone, Eve-Anne Prentice and others.
I would like to dismiss my presence from this webpage but with due respect Mr. Pavlovich I would like to say that I am stunned with your inconsistent protrayal of facts. There is a world of evidence that speaks to the contrary.
Let me remind you of a saying by Rudolf Ludwig Karl Virchow, one of the greatest German pathologists, and anthropologists about Albanians:"Voila la race vraiment superieure de ces contrees." (Further interpretation provided upon request.) Which begs the question is it Albanians or Serbians that define your passinate anger toward such a people!!
Correct me if I am wrong but was it the Albanians that assassinated King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia? (No need for answers here!) How about Karageorge ("Black George") murdered in 1817 by by his rival Milos Obrenovich, who had him killed with an axe and sent his head to the Sultan in Constantinople? Was that a favor to the Turks? I am not certain but I am starting to think that you might be reading some French History here! (Well that's another subject for discussion...)
....Here is another trustworthy statement:"In 3200 BC, there were many, many languages spoken besides Sumerian and Egyptian, but they were not fortunate enough to have a writing system. These languages are just as old. To take one interesting case, the Albanian language (spoken north of Greece) was not written down until about the 15th century AD, yet Ptolemy mentions the people in the first century BC.* The linguistic and archaeological evidence suggests that Albanians were a distinct people for even longer than that. So Albanian has probably existed for several millennia, but has only been written down for 500 years. With a twist of fate, Albanian might be considered very "old" and Greek pretty "new".
Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Linguistic PhD
Not cencerned with the fluff here, - just gathering some evidence to dispute the lack of historicity in the formentioned comments.
How about a dose of the Massacre in Scutari? In which the bayonets pierce the inoccent children while in their fetuses? Let's not marginalize what is happening as a result of human depravity. You as well as any other human being are capable of dishonoring our Creator by performing barbaric acts. It is by God's (Christ's if you desire spesifics!) grace that we are what we are and lets allow ouselves to bring a part of our American dream to all Serbians and Albanians alike...
Jerome
Thank you for dismissing your presence from the page Jerome, pro-Albanian propaganda has done a good job on a lot more people than you alone. Yes, there are some sources that would ascribe some humane values to this group of murderers. The recent history (about 100 years or so) does not have any of those flowery views you manufactured so cutely. I don't know how many times you have been to Albania proper (I know-I have), in addition to which my experiences with the INS document processing where I equally noticed Islamic, Albanian, German, Irish, French, Austrian and many other nationals. German documents are considered incomplete unless they state the religion (Lutheran in most Northern Germans, Roman Catholic in most Southern Germans) Albanian applicant's passports most times were issued by TURKEY. Their birth places were often IVONGOROD - a bastardization of town in Montenegro by the name of Ivangrad. They kept inventing names for any town where they had even the most modest presence - no need to Islamicize any of the Turkish words. The consistency of their depravity (not so inconsistent with Islam) has been a topic by Dr. Trifkovic - this time they attempted an attack on a host country that offered them a refuge - that in itself should be enough of a factor in getting some clue as to what this ethnic group holds high within their own VALUE SYSTEM. I know I have my own VALUE SYSTEM. maybe even you have one, but Albanian's value system in the last few hundred years has been rather peculiar (at best).
I thank you for bowing out and offering your wisdom (and sources) to some pro Islamic pro Albanian media source. The media (in most countries) has been rather non-discriminative when it comes to small issues (such as truth, consistencey, etc.).
I hope you don't get forced to go back on your word and re-enter this discussion which would be very much along the Islamofascist VALUE SYSTEM - basically doing what you feel, when you get to feel it irrespective of any morality, truth, and those bothersome little details, like encroaching on freedoms and lives of others.
No wonder this country "is going down the tubes" under the assumption that there are more persons, even larger groups with such warped liberal thinking - refusing to see a forest from the tree. We desperately needed this Fort Dix incident, but there are those shameless aplogists who invoke the name of our Lord while they turn a blind eye to an obvious criminal delict - or even a long history of criminality contained within one group (race, ethnic group, or definded by some other means). Isn't it laughable how the word Mafia was forcibly excluded from NYC speach in the 1970s? It was not considered acceptable that the Italian origin be connected to anything that sounds like Mafia. Organized crime was a newly adopted euphemism. You belong to that breed. Stay there please. Changing a few words here and there exactly brought us collectively into this nightmare. We pander to Islam on account of some miserable oil, fossil fuel or possibly some of our officials having a financial interest at some Texas based oil refinery businesses, resulting in such silly pronouncements "Islam is a religion of peace" - "It is the radical Islamists that America is pursuing over there". Granted your statements are not as idiotic as the two I just quoted, but they are not too far removed from the biased essence of Polyanic blindness and political need to pander to Islam, King Faisal or some other source of oil.
In spite of the fact that which finds generalizing rather unappealing or even inaccurate, some generalities do stand the test of time. Here are some, which remain undisputed.
Without an extensive knowledge of history we can all, easily conclude that the British Empire was rather strongly inclined towards forming a substantial number of colonies at the time of their colonial peak (all of North America, India, Australia, etc. etc.)
Both Spain and Portugal competed (and conflicted each other) substantialy in Africa and South America during the period of their respective conquests.
The Ancient Roman Empire was equally expansionistic. So was Persia, so was Alexander’s Macedonia. No need to mention Hitler’s Germany or Stalin’s CCCP.
After the above “more pedestrian” examples of expansionism we have a very different methodology found only in Islam. The Ottomans expanded by most brutal means. American slavery pales by comparison to what the Islamists did to the indigenous people they conquered – that (ANTI)-social aspect is what makes the danger of Islam so serious and so hard to underestimate.
There are frequent Islamic apologists who like to use the idiotic line “oh well, this was an act of a lone “brain-washed” Islamic radical” – the rest of us are not like that. That is exactly what we get served by the media’s brain washing campaign aimed at the American public at large. To begin with, American long term memory is next to non-existent, and the little which does exist is often laced with unhealthy dose of liberalism cloaked in “freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion”. Wrong on all three accounts. Islam is a cult – not a religion. The acts of Muslims from the Balkans (Albanians and Bosniaks) have been documented over a good few centuries and they can no longer be “acts of lone deranged (Salt Lake City shopping mall shooter). This euphemistic sugarcoating is making the bitter pill of truth – easier to swallow – for the masses, but as long as there are acute and astute observers like Dr. Trifkovic, Dr. Fleming, Mr. Jatras and a few others, the truth will be easier to disclose – no matter how “unsuitable” it may seem to our current (or future) powers.
I never thought I would miss Tito.
Somebody should wrtie and circulate a petition asking Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA) if he is taking dope or alcoholic beverage in order to be able to sleep at night. Any sane and Christ living person on Earth would not allow a pure anti-christian stronghold in the heart of Europe, a christian continent.
Al Qaeda Media Committee Attacks on Darko Trifunovic
I am posting this on behalf of Darko Trifunovic:
SOME COUNTER TERRORISM EXPERTS FEAR AL QAEDA ATTACKS THEM WITH THE INFLUENCE OF AL QAEDA MEDIA COMMITTEE - THE CASE OF DR DARKO TRIFUNOVIC
World wide counter terrorist experts have indicated that they believe in the danger of web attacks on them. Now Al Qaeda and Radical Islamists are targetting not only our objects and soldiers, but also our intellectuals.
Al-Qaeda Media Committee Details, Center of Gravity: Pakistan Area of Operation, Afghanistan, United Kingdom, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo
In the early 1990s, this committee produced a publication called "Nashrat al Akhbar" -- the Newscast, in the Hyatabad neighborhood of Peshawar, Pakistan. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the former Bosnian and Afghanistan war veteran with a Bosnian passport, took over leadership of this committee during the planning of the Sept. 11 attacks, starting around 1999.
It become clear that al-Qaeda's committee now target our intellectuals, experts, professors etc...recently there has been an ongoing Internet War against Dr Darko Trifunovic, from the Faculty of Security Studies, University of Belgrade, who discovered existence of "White Al Qaeda" in Bosnia and Herzegovina
(Sources: 1Jamal al-Fadl testimony, United States vs. Osama bin Laden et al, trial transcript, Day 2, Feb. 6, 2001. 2: The 9-11 Commission Report. July 22, 2004. Chapter 5.1.)
The Media Committee coordinates with the owners of pro-fundamentalist media and activists inside major media outlets to spread Islamic fundamentalist propaganda. The basic function of this Committee is to justify the activities of Islamic fundamentalists. The main weapon is to claim that Muslims are always and everywhere the exclusive victims of violence. Of course, the truth is completely different, because the Islamic fundamentalists initiate violence for the purpose of establishing the pan-Islamic Ummah, a theocracy that excludes the existence of other religions. For example, in Kosovo-Metohia Islamic extremists among the Kosovo Albanians, with Al-Qaeda’s help, have managed to create a perception that the Albanian majority was endangered by the Serb minority. Thanks to the work of the Media Committee, the secession and terrorism of Islamic fundamentalists among the Kosovo Albanians were presented as a “struggle for freedom.” One of the main objectives of the Islamic fundamentalists’ global network is to create a perception in the world public opinion that Muslims are always the victims, in order to justify conflict and conquest. Victim status is thus claimed for Kosovo Albanians, their co-religionists in Kashmir, Palestine, Russia (Chechnya), Sudan, Tanzania, Bosnia, Macedonia, Malaysia, East Timor, etc.
What the Media Committee of Al Qaeda from Bosnia wants to hide:
Links between 9/11 and the Al-Qaeda network in Bosnia-Herzegovina
Officials of the Muslim-Croat Federation in B-H never released any information to the US investigators or lawyers representing the families of 9/11 victims, because such information would cast a new light on the entire B-H conflict. They would have made it obvious that the war was a jihad, a religious war waged against Bosnia’s Christians by the Islamic extremists.
The Interpol office in Wiesbaden, Germany sent a request to the Bosnian authorities on 18 September 2001 to verify the identity of a certain Mr. Atta, who according to their information used to reside in the hamlet of Bakotić, 8 km outside Maglaj, in 1999. Attached to the request was the photo of Mohamed Atta, and a note to verify it through a certain Mehmed Hasanić, a resident of Bakotić. This means Mohamed Atta was trained in B-H; it is known that he left B-H for Hamburg, from where he proceeded to the United States and his ultimate mission – to destroy the Twin Towers.
Jihad Online: Islamic Terrorists and the Internet
Introduction
The trend by Islamic extremists to utilize the Internet, particularly via websites, as a way to communicate, coordinate and to raise funds, continues a year after 9/11. The practice of Islamic extremist groups to turn the openness and instantaneous nature of communications on the Internet to their advantage is shown by the number, variety and depth of the sites dedicated to assisting these groups in their cause. While some of the websites have folded or been taken down, new ones, such as stopamerica.org (whose administrator has been indicted as a possible Al-Qaeda agent) have blossomed, carrying similar messages of hate and destruction. The existing sites maintained by Islamic extremists have continued to act as central nodes of disseminating propaganda, messaging among members and fundraising.
The Internet allows groups that are spread across the globe to quickly and efficiently get messages out to adherents; and the use of cryptography and other privacy tools allows groups to do so covertly. Because access to the Internet is so fast, cheap and flexible, the complexity of deciphering and tracking covert operations is compounded by the ease with which sites become known and shared; and can then be folded and restarted under different names using different addresses. The techniques and diverse means to keep messages and information hidden online are a practice that these groups will continue to improve upon and refine in the future. Because a troubling web site is gone, doesn't mean that Jihad has been abandoned. On the contrary, constant monitoring is required to track and trace the war that's been declared on the non-Islamic world in both the electronic and real world.
The report: Jihad Online: Islamic Terrorists and the Internet provides detailed information on this topic.
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You have to see this to believe it:
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/
To all who thinks that Serbs are "telling stories" and that (Serbian) police was really killing innocent people, please find time to go through this web site in detail, read each article, and see each photo.
KLA is terrorist and mafia organization. They were the most dangerous mafia in NYC in 80' and 90' but also in Italy and other countries surrounding Albania.
KLA organized killings of small groups of Albanians in more than several occasions, and destruction of houses or entire villages, far from witnesses, so they could easily attribute those killings to the police and military, raising rage and fear among common people and increasing hatred against Serbs. In that atmosphere it was more than easy to find volunteers among Albanians but also create false image in foreign media, which was easy task since Milosevic's regime was already "painted black" by foreign media.
Albanian Invasion on Kosovo was determined believe it or not, in 1878, 130 years ago, and is part of Greater Albania, idea that is being transfered from father to son, for generations.
In 1948. there was registered 490.000 Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija.
In 1991. number of Albanians was 1.6 Million.
Do you really believe that reasonable explanation of 1.1 Million people difference in the time frame of 48 years is "they got lot of babies"??? Or major number of Albanians today illegally crossed border between Serbia and Albania, during communism regime in former Yugoslavia. FYI: Albanians were in control of Kosovo and Metohija region during communism as they were communists themselves and Party gave them executive positions in that south province to keep public peace. But extremism didn't stop, it was just put "under the carpet". Explosion of rapes, murders, beatings, threats and other extremist actions took place in 1980', in such scale that Serbs tried to flee from Kosovo in large numbers - that communists had to force them back by beating and threats, using police forces and forbidding all press that would report situation in Kosovo.
But number of Serbs and other non-Albanians decreased, and in period of 1981 to 1991 dropped from 209.000 to 194.000, as a result of terrorist acts.
The only reason how Milosevic raised in power is Albanian terror - he promised Serbs in Kosovo that he will stop extremists.
During 90', there were constant attacks on the police stations, and military outposts, especially on the border of Serbia - Albania. Many police officers died in these terrorist actions. When counter-attack would come, KLA would use human shields, to increase number of killed civilians and use that as "proof of Serb repression". Hashim Thaqi himself gave interview to Voice Of Russia in 2001 confessing this tactic of KLA in 90'.
But since NATO was dragged into fighting the war for KLA, against Serbs, it has no choice but to continue the same politic, even though now it becomes clear who is who in this tragedy, or else to face charges for war crimes, aggression on a country without a resolution of UN and UN Security Council (let me remind you, NATO is a weapon of UN, but it cannot make decision to attack a country or perform any military operations without UN resolution) and killing thousands of civilians.
I understand for most of Europeans and Americans it is a science-fiction that Serbs were actually good and that your governments did something bad - but sooner you understand that, the better for all of us - you still can make a difference and at least stop going in the wrong way - forcing independence of Kosovo is far away from creating stability in Balkans.
Let me just remind you all:
Kosovo is not just Kosovo, there are 2 regions even though all international media are making it sound like it's one:
" Kosovo and Metohia "
Two regions, not one.
Author just said the sad truth. Unfortunately, words are not enough,
but supported by photos and documents, will have needed effect:
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/photos/klacrimes001.jpg
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/photos/klacrimes004.jpg
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/photos/klacrimes005.jpg
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/photos/
I warn you, photos are not nice, show extreme violence and you should be very cautious when opening these links....
Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence on Feb. 17, 2008 is an outrage that Serbia will not accept. This outrage has united us. We will overcome this injustice unless we're enslaved again. Our chains have been forged in the past (Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian empires) and in recent times (Communists and NATO). Their clanking has been heard the world over.....