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By:Chronicles | June 27, 2014

Srdja Trifkovic’s latest RT interview on the Ukrainian crisis

RT: After Russia’s steps to deescalate the crisis, they are still being criticized. Is there anything Moscow can do at this point to make Western leaders change their ongoing rhetoric?

Trifkovic: Oh yes, Moscow could escalate the crisis, and then they would dearly like to come back to the conciliatory gestures that we’ve seen both yesterday and over the past few weeks. But the lesson, what we’ve seen with the Yugoslav crisis of the 1990’s, and then with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria, is that conciliatory gestures are interpreted in Washington strictly as weakness, and only elicit an escalation of demands. We are not dealing with the normal diplomacy of give-and-take. That is why I am somewhat surprised that some of the Russian leaders still use the term “our Western partners.” In the classic European diplomacy of the XIXth century “partnership” implied this give-and-take. What we seem to be encountering, in both Washington and Brussels, is just “take” and no “give.” Unreciprocated gestures of easing the crisis, trying to calm the waters, are invariably interpreted as weakness that requires an escalation of ever-hardening demands.

RT: Today again we hear of the strong possibility of more Western sanctions being imposed on Moscow over Ukraine. None of that is surprising, then? All in the plan?

Trifkovic: Well, it’s really a game of chicken. The United States is putting a great deal of pressure on the so-called Old Europe to impose some serious sanctions, but none of those sanctions would hurt the United States. They will increase the hardship in Europe, because that would mean an increase in unemployment, that would mean going back into recession, and Europe still depends for about 30 percent of its energy on Russia. The American fracking gas cannot be transported to the de-liquefying stations in Europe for another two years. What we have is a game of chicken. I believe that President Putin has a rather strong hand if he plays it right, without coming up with strong rhetoric or dramatic gestures. We are in this for a long haul. The Ukrainian crisis will not be resolved next week or next month. There will be a complete collapse, financial collapse, in the Kiev regime-held Ukraine, and the West has no money and no willingness to come to the rescue…

RT: But how many people will have to die while this happens, while this plays out as you’re saying. Everybody is putting their hopes on this ceasefire that hopefully will be continued after this week. You’re saying it’s a dead duck already?

Trifkovic: Well, I am not sure, because it is pretty obvious that the Ukrainian military, the regular army, has no stomach for the fight, and that the fanatics from Galicia who are the backbone of the so-called National Guard – which is really the Right Sector dressed in regular uniforms – are not able to do the job. It is far better to drag out the crisis at a low level of intensity of violence, than to try and force the issue in a way that might result in a dramatic bloodshed right now.



harry colin
east palestine
6/27/2014 10:37 PM

  It is both instructive and gratifying to have someone as informed and erudite as Mr. Trifkovic commenting on this crisis. His insight is a necessary counterweight to most of what we encounter. The major US media are historically and culturally clueless and that makes their belligerency toward Russia all the more reckless and dangerous. It appears the keyboard commandos of the neocon oligarchy, breathlessly calling for even more NATO expansion, will not rest until US forces encircle Russia; the dreadful outcome of such decisions will fall most heavily on the citizens least likely to favor such bellicosity. It will be their sons - and now daughters - who will be the boots on the ground.

6/27/2014 11:13 PM

  RT: Today we again hear...All in the plan? Dr. T: Well,it's really a game..." but a song (somewhat altered ) comes to mind. " den March von Horst Wessel begonnen Im rot/weiss und blauen Gewand der SA Vorwaerts nach Osten du strumend' Heer Von Finland bis zum Schwarzen Meer.

6/28/2014 02:50 PM

  Though keeping low profile, the Ukraine crisis is generated, administered, funded and kept alive by Obama's Administration. Yes, there a lot of big interests on the backstage (George Soros, Rockefellers, etc...) but its front face is Obama. Shame on you Nobelist, down you go in history books.

6/28/2014 03:06 PM

  Lions for Lambs is a drama film about the intertwined connections between a platoon of United States soldiers in Afghanistan, a U.S. senator, a reporter, and a California college professor, and in one moment the reporter (Meryl Streep) tells her editor that “it was all right there if we had bothered to connect the dots”. So not assume for any moment that US media are clueless, they are just publishing what they are being told to. This is a conundrum of the "mass democracy" where media publish what their owners dictate (dictators?), than exploit same published content as "public opinion" justifying the cause.

robert m. peters
6/30/2014 12:47 AM

  Dr. Trifkovic, I monitor out of habit and out of curiosity sources in Germany on a daily basis. The media wall which is a clone of the U.S. media is breaking down, particularly on the quality talk shows which include former Chancellors and former Foreign Ministers, as well as CEO's of major German concerns. Retired German military officers are speaking out in no uncertain terms. Several have spoken of well-maintained channels between former members of the German government and the German military which go back to the Cold War. Joachin Scholz, a retired military officer, has written a letter to Putin, a letter containing the signatures of thousands of Germans, admonishing him, if he can, not to do the overt, such as direct military action in Ukraine because they believe that over time European public opinion, particularly German public opinion, will come around.


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