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The Future of Russia and the West: A Conversation with Elena Chudinova, Part I

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By:Eugene Girin | April 22, 2014

Elena Chudinova is a Russian traditionalist conservative author and publicist who is Russia's leading critic of Islam, mass non-European immigration, and a dedicated proponent of Russia's engagement with the European Right. Chudinova's famous bestseller "The Notre Damme de Paris Mosque" - a fast-paced dystopian novel about a 2048 Western Europe taken over by Wahhabi Islam has been translated into most European languages and is awaiting publication in English. A devout Orthodox Christian, Chudinova has always been a steadfast ally of traditionalist Catholics and is a stringent critic of the pro-Islamic Eurasianists of Alexander Dugin. 

I was introduced to Elena Chudinova a few years ago by the hard right Russian-Israeli publicist Avigdor Eskin and was delighted to arrange a meeting between Chronicles foreign affairs editor Srdja Trifkovic and Elena Chudinova during Dr. Trifkovic's visit to Moscow in the beginning of April. Chronicles readers' introduction to Elena Chudinova's work and thought is essential and long overdue.

Srdja Trifkovic: It was 16 years ago that I met [world-famous mathematician and eminent Russian conservative thinker] Igor Shafarevich here in Moscow and asked him if there was any hope for the recovery of Russia? He answered: 'As a mathematician, I don't think so, because I work with exact quantities, but as an Orthodox Christian, I believe that the benevolent effect of the Holy Spirit will intervene'. Do you think that what we have seen since that terrible time is indeed the intervention of the Holy Spirit to save Russia? Is it Divine Intervention that helped Russia recover and what is the outlook for the future?

Elena Chudinova: Of course, I can agree that if I was not a Christian, I would be pessimistic about Russia's recovery because I was raised in the Soviet Union, which existed for some seventy years. Instead of the collapse of the Soviet Union and communism, we received a state of chaos that was definitely not the national rebirth of Russia. Over the last twenty-four years, I see only the national humiliation of Russia.  For example, Russia successfully carried out the Second Chechen War at first, but the politicians lost everything that the soldiers won. Thereby, Russia won the war in Chechnya, but lost the peace. In addition, Russia did not help Serbia and surrendered, gave in, and caved in on all fronts of Islam's advance. Also, after the collapse of communism, Russia lost the territories conquered by the Russian tsars - native Russian lands. Therefore, there were all the reasons for pessimism, but Faith defeats pessimism.  Now, there is a process, fraught with dangers and difficulties, of the reunification of native Russian territories.

ST: Is it just the process of the reunification of Russian lands, because without a spiritual dimension, it will not be a very lasting one.

EC: I am absolutely sure of the presence of a spiritual dimension, because there are things which you cannot create artificially. People see the intrigues of Kremlin in Crimea's return to Russia, but since I am in full contact with the Russians in Crimea, I see and know that it is not Kremlin's doing, but a natural process.



Dan Hayes
Rego Park
4/22/2014 08:46 PM

  Regarding "the presence of a spiritual dimension" referred to by ST and EC. A colleague of mine who originally hailed from St. Petersburg has told me that a common current public greeting there during the Easter Season is "He Is Risen." It is remarkable that this is occurring in a city whose most recent moniker was Leningrad! (It would be even more remarkable if there would be any such public greeting in Europe or the US!) I am looking forward to succeeding parts of this conversation. P.S. I am always amazed by your personal coterie of political fellow-travelers: Trifkovoc, Chudinova, Eskkin, et al.

Woody Jones
4/22/2014 09:15 PM

  Kudos once again, Mr. Girin, for a very interesting part one of the interview with a very interesting Russian previously unknown to me, A little Google yields this book review of the Mosquee de Notre Dame book: I find it very interesting that Chudinova thinks that the followers of Archbishop Lefebvre will be the last Christians standing, and knowing some of them myself, I can see why. Keep up the good work.

Eugene Girin
Forest Hills
4/22/2014 10:19 PM

  Mr. Jones, stay tuned for two more parts of the Chudinova interview. The City Journal review is a piece of neoconnery. The reviewer is outraged by the novel's "offensive" vision of Europe's future. She's also quite ignorant of the background of the group's heroine.

Jonathan Liem
4/23/2014 12:50 AM

  JMJ Divine Providence is most definitely at play with respect to Russia. It appears to me that the groundwork is being laid for Russia's eventual conversion, once the pope and all the bishops finally fulfill Our Lady's request that Russia be consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart. When that is to be, I do not know, but that it will be so, I'm certain, as Heaven has promised it. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

4/24/2014 01:46 AM

  I guess I'm the sceptic here. First I know little to nothing about who these immigrants are. Are they mostly Islamic who are so called tolerant, multicultural from different muslim groups or countries, or multireligious based on different islamic beliefs? I don't know that either. Were the government officials elected by the people? Doesn't seem so. The only thing I know in this blog is that there is a lot of corruption going on at "all levels of the Russian government." Three in particular are supposedly Orthodox Christian but at the same time engage in Islamic activities. There is some kind of relationship that benefits this arrangement of Islam/ Orthodox Christianity that benefits Islam. Claiming Orthodox Christianity gets the masses thinking that there is nothing harmful with the Muslim religion. It is Jihad. There will never be a compromise between Russian Orthodoxy and Islam. The book by Elena Chudinova is an important book to read. Being a novel, hopefully it will be read by many people. For nonfiction books on the subject consider books by Bat Ye'or. It is likely that Mrs. Chudinova is familiar with her works. Both courageous women.


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