Islamophobia—or When Will They Ever Learn?
by Thomas Fleming
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There is little to say about the shootings at Ft. Hood that has not already been said a thousand times in half-sentence bursts—expletives undeleted—on every newspaper site in the United States, but there are one or two questions to ask or ask again.
Here in Ft. Worth, when I read the news yesterday afternoon, I assumed immediately it was a Muslim, and, no, I did not feel ashamed of my snap judgment. Ethnic stereotypes, as Steve Goldberg pointed out years ago in Chronicles, represent statistical reality. Disregard them at your peril. Not all stereotypes are negative. The quality in Jews that Christians criticize as “pushy,” Goldberg argued, is valued by Jews as “enterprising.” In the case of pious Muslims like Dr. Hasan, killing one’s self and others for the faith, is not terrorism but an act of religious courage. Mass murder, for many Muslims including Mohammed, is what martyrdom is for Christians. I was roundly attacked for saying this after 911, but it is true. Online, Hasan made the same argument, according to the story on the AP. Comparing suicide bombers with kamikaze pilots, he argued: ”To say that this soldier [a suicide bomber] committed suicide is inappropriate . . . He is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a noble cause.”
By his own lights and according to his own religious traditions—admittedly, traditions that are not universal in Islam anymore than the celibacy of priests is universal in the Catholic Church—Hasan is not mentally disturbed, only a man who has done his religious duty.
The real criminals in this case are not this pathetic creature who thinks killing his colleagues is an act of faith, but the US military officials who continue to admit Muslims into the armed forces, and if we really wish to point the figure at guilty parties, we can point to Don Rumsfeld, George Bush, Dick Cheney, and the Republican Party apparatchiks who keep on telling us that Islam is a religion of peace. These people, it is absolutely clear, have no more interest in protecting the security of the American people than Barack Hussein Obama and Rahm Emanuel.
A second, admittedly minor, point of interest crops up in a story in The Washington Post. Describing the killer’s parents as Palestinian immigrants, the story goes on to say that “The Hasan family was large and had deep roots in Roanoke Valley, said Amer Azibidi, minister and imam of the KUFA Center of Islamic Knowledge.” So in the world of The Washington Post, immigrants to the US have “deep roots” wherever they choose to settle. Hassan’s family had deep roots in Palestine, probably going back thousands of years, until they were driven out by Israeli terrorist violence. Admittedly, knowing what we know now about Muslims—but should have known all along—we would not want them living next door to us either, no matter how we acquired our land, by purchase or violent occupation. Still, it is not unreasonable to ask the state of Israel to begin paying reparations to the United States for all the mischief it has caused. Obviously, that is not going to happen, and even an Islamophile president cannot stand up to the Israel lobby. He made that plain enough in appointing one of that lobby’s agents as his chief of staff.
The spin on the story began with the first announcement that the killer is a Muslim. CAIR came out with an entirely predictable statement disclaiming any connection between Islam and terrorism. But this is the same CAIR that has repeatedly defended Muslims accused of terrorist activities in the US and attempted to silence anyone who opposes the Jihadists.
My colleague Captain Christopher Check has made an astute observation that is worth quoting here:
“There is another elephant in the room, although, I hope in time, the facts will be made clear and the elephant will disappear. Let’s imagine that Hasan was carrying two semiautomatic pistols, though General Cone confirmed that only one was semiautomatic; presumably he meant that the other could have been a revolver (If true, then my elephant is even bigger.) Still, let’s say he had two pistols carrying 15 rounds each (eg.,magazine of an M9 holds 15). This means he had to change magazines, at a minimum, one time to fire off 45 rounds to cause 43 casualties. I fired expert every year that I was in the Marine Corps with the M9 (it is a very forgiving pistol!), but that was standing still at a range holding the weapon with both hands. Not the same environment in which Hasan was shooting. (By the way, I am guessing a 9mm round because some victims were hit multiple times and are still alive; a 45 round that hits you in the big toe takes off your leg) Even at the very close range from which he must have been firing (some must have been point blank), that is a very high percentage of hits. I’m guessing he changed magazines at least one time in each pistol–very likely more times.
During the interludes of magazine changing and pulling back the slide assembly to chamber a new round (a quick enough action, but one requiring two hands), not one of these soldiers, men about to deploy to a combat theater made a move for Hasa to overpower him, much less a group of them? One question, had I been present at Cone’s initial press conference, would have been “what was the sex of the victims?” Of the few names that have been released, three are females. Was the group of soldiers attacked disproportionately female? Was at last subdued when he had nearly exhausted his ammunition? It is one thing to hope that victims of a campus shooting might rally to subdue a shooter, but am I being unfair to wonder what these soldiers about to deploy for combat were doing? I hope that some data will come to light to show that my speculations about the soldiers on the scene are unfair.”
Nothing productive will come out of this incident, because the people who run the United States are committed to three suicidal policies, any one of which we might survive, but not all free. First, we have given a blank check to Israel, which has helped focus the hatred of the Muslim world on the United States. There has always been Islamic terrorism—how else did they eliminate so many Jews and Christians from the Middle East, rational persuasion? Second, we refuse to do anything about the Muslims who are in the United States and continue to support Muslim terrorists in Kosovo and Bosnia. This is the same policy that brought the Mujahidin and eventually the Taliban to power in Afghanistan. Third, and worst of all, we can simultaneously support the Jewish state and its Muslim enemies because we reject our own history, religion, and identity.
Christian Zionists are no better in this regard than leftist Muslim-loving multi-culturalists. The corruption of the American mind begins the day a child enters kindergarten and it goes on until he graduates and continues every day he picks up the newspaper or turns on the television. We don’t have a country. If we did, neither CAIR nor AIPAC would be allowed to operate.
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1 Comment by Bryan on 6 November 2009:
Mr Fleming-I agree with everything you wrote. The spin in the Houston Chronicle is evident. The PC wrath from the left and right will be coming down on you for this one. Oh by the way the Houston Chronicle refers to Hasan as a suspect and allegedly shot 43 people.
2 Comment by Tom Piatak on 6 November 2009:
A very powerful piece.
3 Comment by jack bailey on 6 November 2009:
Brilliant!
4 Comment by charlieboy on 6 November 2009:
Brian, you should not worry too too much about Tom. He’s been talking the talk and walking the walk on this issue for a long time. Chronicles remains one of the few voices crying out the truth in the wilderness of PC.
5 Comment by Etienne Gervaise on 6 November 2009:
Fort Hood is run by one General Cone (Kohn?). As a top government bureaucrat, I’m sure Cone has been delighted to preside over multi-cultural diversity on his enormous military facility, and signed off of numerous glowing reports all touting the rainbow coalition. He has probably also punished white boys for failing to join in the government mandated, politically correct fun and games.
As for CAIR, who exactly is the red-headed Ibrahim Hooper? He doesn’t seem very mohammedan to me. In fact he sems more like typical DC lawyer scum — which is quite the opposite, except in their desire to destroy our nation.
Coming to think of it, the US started to lose wars after integration was implemented. Korea and Vietnam come immediately to mind.
6 Comment by Andrew Stanton on 6 November 2009:
At least one local NYC television station immediately brought up the anti-Muslim “hazing” that Dr. Hasan no doubt was subjected to in the military. I sure hope he didn’t forget his black trench coat!
7 Comment by Bernie on 6 November 2009:
The usual suspects in the media are – predictably – more worried about a supposed anti-Muslim backlash (can anyone give an example of this ever happening?) than they are about the 13 infidels who were murdered for having the wrong religion.
8 Comment by Thomas Flinn on 6 November 2009:
The US is semi governed by perhaps the most ignorant governing elite in the history of mankind, knowing virtually nothing about the rest of the world and virtually nothing about their own country. Nothing they do or don’t do surprises me. As for this sleezeball murderer, hang him. Now, if that happened, THAT would surprise me.
9 Comment by Dave Kamka on 6 November 2009:
Shame on you all. I agree with our President. We should not jump to conclusions as to MAJ Hassan’s motives. He is, after all, an Islamic patriot, not a Cambridge, MA policeman.
10 Comment by Christopher Check on 6 November 2009:
There is another elephant in the room, although, I hope in time, the facts will be made clear and the elephant will disappear. Let’s imagine that Hasan was carrying two semiautomatic pistols, though General Cone confirmed that only one was semiautomatic; presumably he meant that the other could have been a revolver (If true then my elephant is even bigger.) Still, let’s say he had two pistols carrying 15 rounds each (eg.,magazine of an M9 holds 15). This means he had to change magazines, at a minimum, one time to fire off 45 rounds to cause 43 casualties. I fired expert every year that I was in the Marine Corps with the M9 (it is a very forgiving pistol!), but that was standing still at a range holding the weapon with both hands. Not the same environment in which Hasan was shooting. (By the way, I am guessing a 9mm round because some victims were hit multiple times and are still alive; a 45 round that hits you in the big toe takes off your leg) Even at the very close range from which he must have been firing (some must have been point blank), that is a very high percentage of hits. I’m guessing he changed magazines at least one time in each pistol–very likely more times. During the interludes of magazine changing and pulling back the slide assembly to chamber a new round (a quick enough action, but one requiring two hands), not one of these soldiers, men about to deploy to a combat theater made a move for Hasa to overpower him, much less a group of them? One question, had I been present at Cone’s initial press conference, would have been “what was the sex of the victims?” Of the few names that have been released, three are females. Was the group of soldiers attacked disproportionately female? Was at last subdued when he had nearly exhausted his ammunition? It is one thing to hope that victims of a campus shooting might rally to subdue a shooter, but am I being unfair to wonder what these soldiers about to deploy for combat were doing? I hope that some data will come to light to show that my speculations about the soldiers on the scene are unfair. I’ll be happy to say so in this space if they are.
11 Comment by harry colin on 6 November 2009:
Christopher Check’s point is exactly what I was thinking in the aftermath of this shooting.
As a former 11th Cav officer who still shoots handguns with some regularity the whole picture seems distorted. I agree it would most likely be a 9mm and perhaps a .38 revolver that this guy was using given the injuries; I’m thinking he needed more than one reload with each and even a speedloader on a wheelgun will take a few seconds for even the best of shooters. I simply can’t believe no one made a move for this guy, unless he was somehow perfectly positioned with both some concealment and much cover in a hard-to-reach spot. I think there is much more that we need to know here and the fact that we don’t already is because it is politically impolite to reveal these facts.
This makes this act both tragic and disgusting.
12 Comment by Harry Wisniewski on 6 November 2009:
The Army and the media will emphasis that a woman police officer alledgedly stopped Hassan. That will be the story we’ll be instructed to remember.
13 Comment by Clyde Wilson on 6 November 2009:
Do we need any other evidence than this event and the official response to prove the utter corruption and incompetence of our elite?
14 Comment by Andrew Stanton on 6 November 2009:
The response to the shooter does not surprise me at all. I’m told by someone who does a lot of firearms training that almost all military training is done on a cold range. That speaks volumes about the mindset being encouraged in today’s armed forces.
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16 Comment by R. Cort Kirkwood on 6 November 2009:
@12, Mr. Wisniewski:
Absolutely correct. They are already doing so. At Slate, William Saletan says this proves we should drop the ban on women in combat.
http://www.slate.com/id/2234862/
17 Comment by M.A. Roberts on 6 November 2009:
You guys have it all wrong. America’s #1 patriot David Frum says we should be focusing on these images today:
http://www.frumforum.com/the-shootings-at-fort-hood
We should be focusing on all those good Muslims who gave their lives for the spread of Wilsonian liberalism in the Middle East.
18 Comment by Theodore Van Oosbree on 6 November 2009:
Muslims are our enemies? Who woulda thunk it?
19 Comment by M.A. Roberts on 6 November 2009:
Sadly, Frum’s ridiculous post – let’s forgot about the people killed at Ft. Hood and focus on Muslim lives lost in pursuit of Wilsonian nation building in the Middle East – only confirms everything Dr. Fleming says above.
20 Comment by Etienne Gervaise on 6 November 2009:
Soldiers on post are easy pickings, sort of like hunting in a baited patch. In order to keep guns legally, they must be registered, stored in the armory, and can only be checked out during certain hours. Self-defense be damned! Of course Little Smoking Barry will show up at Dover AFB with a posse of shutterbugs, and shed a tear as he reads wahtever maudlin speech the TelePrompTer says.
And how many died in Iraq yesterday?
21 Comment by Etienne Gervaise on 6 November 2009:
@12 Harry
I figured it was a woman who fired 4 times and still couldn’t get one in the K4 zone.
22 Comment by Andrew Stanton on 6 November 2009:
@19
So military bases, like the scenes of almost all other mass shootings, are gun-free zones; no danger of any immediate return fire. (Do the MPs have unloaded side arms?) No wonder they had to wait for the police to end the confrontation.
23 Comment by Christopher Check on 6 November 2009:
It should be said that there are practical reasons why weapons are kept in armories, and these reasons are not altogether symptoms of modernity. Further, that the cop who shot the bad guy is a civilian is not a condition for which we can blame the Armed Forces. Most of our servicemen are deployed or preparing for deployment or supporting deployment. Base policing is one of many functions that has been given to civilians because of the need to put soldiers in the Middle East. Even the Marines who guarded the tomb of John Paul Jones at the Naval Academy have been deployed.
I do not know why Hasan was not subdued by soldiers. The fact of their being unarmed is immaterial, but the problem is deeper than “training on a cold range.” To be sure, live-fire training makes one accustomed to the smell of cordite, and the American Armed Forces train with live rounds from 9 mil to eight inch a good deal. There is a cultural defect that is at work. The same pusillanimous behavior of Gen. before the pressis at work, perhaps, in our ranks?
24 Comment by Christopher Check on 6 November 2009:
press is at work
25 Comment by Christopher Check on 6 November 2009:
and might I add what a pleasure it is to share writebacks with a group of folks so many of whom do not hide behind made-up names.
26 Comment by Ken Hoop on 6 November 2009:
Of course, M.A. Roberts, last I heard, David Frum does not extend “Wilsonian liberalism” to how Israel should be governed, which would remove all vestiges of rabbinical law. Why, this must mean he supports Muslims who support Israeli-owned U.S. Mideast policy!
27 Comment by Harry Wisniewski on 6 November 2009:
Mr. Check,
I suspect the soldiers did not rush the terrorist because we Americans have been condition to duck and cover while we wait for the police to arrive. Additionally, the emphasis on technology, weapon systems, and special operations has stymied the personal warrior ethic among the vast major of soldiers. Even worse for the warrior ethic is the enthusiastic recruiting of future mothers. Not too long ago, color guards were made up of sharp, young, and tough looking men – today we’ve got tom boys in the mix.
For the cultural left the armed forces are the ideal place of indoctrination and agent of social change. For one, it is a historical area dominated by men. Second, and more importantly these days, it is a place where the government can force a left agenda with absolute impunity. In coming weeks, we will see the Army hiring leftists and CAIR to design courses to help the soldiers sympathize with the enemy and be more “cultural aware” of “diverse peoples.” We may not get political officers but we will have the same affect as if we had them.
28 Comment by Allen Wilson on 6 November 2009:
I knew very well what had happened and why before I even heard the culprit’s name.
On a related front, I have heard that ten percent of the French military is now Muslim? There must not be anything left of Charles Martel’s body from spinning in the grave. What’s going to happen over there when civil war breaks out, which it must and will do?
The obvious course is to quietly remove all Muslims from military service gradually, and silence the media on the subject. All Muslims with military training should be removed from the country either by deportation along with their families or at least a close watch should be kept on them at all times. Since our intelligence agencies are so incompetent, I would recommend deportation. Some injustices would obviously occur, but that would be unavoidable.
Of course none of this will ever happen. Instead, in a few years, ten percent of our armed forces will be Muslim, and they’ll be breeding the female other ninety percent.
29 Comment by Kirt Higdon on 7 November 2009:
The US continues to arm and train the armed forces of Moslem states while simultaneously pursuing policies bound to provoke a violent reaction from Moslems. The armed forces of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Iraq, Pakistan, and (to the extent that it even has an army) Afghanistan are all American armed and trained. No doubt there are others I have missed. The US evil empire needs to shut down its wars, withdraw all forces from abroad, and end all foreign aid and arms sales to anyone. Fat chance of that happening short of a national military or economic catastrophe. In the meantime, there will be more Fort Hood type blood-lettings – some but not all carried out by Moslems, most carried out by American soldiers or veterans. And abroad, we may see entire American trained armies suddenly turn on their American trainers and allies. Such things happened to the Romans and the British and they can happen to the US.
30 Comment by Gordon Porter on 7 November 2009:
Something doesn’t add up. A lone individual with only two pistols, one of them being semi-automatic is able to just walk around freely shouting “Allah Akbar” and manages to hit 43 targets with little to no resistance inside one of the largest United States military installations in the world. The FBI was reported to have had Nadal Malik Hasan under close surveillance for the past 6 months due to radical Islamic writings that Hasan had posted online, yet as is par for the course in cases when the feds have had potential terrorists under surveillance they failed to act. It seems evident to me that term “surveillance” just purports protection. In order to accept much of the information that has been released by the media about this fateful incident, an individual would be required to be in a severe state of cognitive dissonance. Although I myself believe that Islam is an absolutely evil concoction of a religion, it is obvious that this incident was likely at best blowback for years of American intervention and imperialism in the Middle East, and at worst was a case of total government involvement at the innermost levels. It will be interesting to see what scholars who may share some of these viewpoints such as the honorable Paul Craig Roberts will have to say about this tragic affair.
31 Comment by jameel daughenbaugh on 7 November 2009:
i find it hard to swallow when you stated “These people “muslims” have no care too protect the civil liberties of the USA. What i find is that many Muslims have laid their life on the line for this nation. but they are unknown or get no recognition at all, especially from the media who must have the story that sells. But hell i guess today sitting on your duff and writing articles makes a person a true patriot….
32 Comment by Thomas Fleming on 7 November 2009:
The resentful and irrational response of “jameel” is a good illustration of why we should not have Muslims in our country, whether they are immigrants or “converts.” With Saudi support, they set up schools to teach children to hate the US and despise non-Muslims. In their mosques and study groups they reinforce each other’s childish sense of self-importance. Here in Rockford, immigrants and converts alike appear to have undergone paramilitary training and more than one was involved in planning acts of terrorism. People who grow up in or convert to an alien and reductive ideology that teaches them to hate Americans have no place either in the US or in the US military, whether they are followers of Karl Marx or Mohammed.
33 Comment by Kirt Higdon on 7 November 2009:
Following up my comments in #28, I read in today’s Wall Street Journal that the US armed forces are going out of their way to actively recruit Moslems, not just permitting them to join. While more than 3000 enlistees claim to be Moslems the extensive use of “no religious preference”, as was used by Hasan, leads to an estimate of around 10,000 Moslems in the armed forces. The official rationale for the recruitment is the need for Moslems as translators and for their cultural knowledge. Of course, if the US imperium was not constantly invading and occupying Moslem countries and training their armies, there would be no need for these translators and cultural experts. I wonder if a Moslem Arminius is even now attending West Point or working his way up through the ranks.
34 Comment by Joe Porreca on 7 November 2009:
As Dr. Fleming says in #31, “With Saudi support, they[Muslims]set up schools to teach children to hate the US and despise non-Muslims.” Saudi Arabia doesn’t permit building Christian churches or schools in its country, yet our government allows the Saudis to build mosques and Islamic schools here. “We don’t have a country.”
35 Comment by Scott P. Richert on 7 November 2009:
Mr. Porter, I think you’re reading too much into the FBI’s apparent failure to prevent this. I’ve followed the cases of Derrick Shareef here in Rockford and Hassan Abujihaad in Scottsdale very closely and have written extensively about both. What is clear is that the FBI agents on the ground, particularly those attached to the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, know the score, no matter what higher-ups in D.C. or politicians may say in their public statements praising Islam as a “religion of peace.”
They are working, however, under severe constraints imposed by politicians and the courts. In both cases I’ve mentioned, important evidence and testimony were excluded by judges because, despite the best efforts of the JTTF to dot every i and cross every t, the courts found their efforts wanting. In both cases, the FBI has taken tremendous heat for “setting up” the potential terrorists. I interviewed at great length over the course of a year the Muslim convert who was responsible for the FBI’s eventual arrest of both men, and published accounts of those interviews in Chronicles. I have no doubt whatsoever that both posed a serious threat, and yet I still have Chronicles readers who have read my accounts tell me that, in their opinion, the FBI surveillance and arrest of both men is proof of government tyranny.
If even some Chronicles readers believe this, can you imagine what the reaction would have been to the preemptive arrest of Hasan, not just from CAIR and other apologists for radical Islam but from “civil libertarians” on both the left and the right? From what I have been able to gather about the FBI surveillance, it had not advanced yet to the point where an informant could have been recruited or inserted into his life. And that means that the FBI was still months away from being able to set up a sting operation to justify Hasan’s arrest.
One does not have to posit “total government involvement at the innermost levels” to make sense of this horrific event.
36 Comment by jameel daughenbaugh on 7 November 2009:
Obviously you do not know me very well mr Fleming. try asking your friend Scott Richert or Aaron Wolf about me before making a irrational statement towards me. But today ignorance is prevalant and we judge the people as a whole. Did u apologize for Koresh, Jim Jones, Mcveigh, or the rapes and murders of the people who reside in the USA and who kill on a daily basis in a Christian Country. My 7 years working for the JTTF branch or Rockfords FBI and traveling all over the country and world. Ive seen many Issues within the Islamic community, when it comes to extremism especially within the USA. But i did my Job to try too stop what has become a cancer in the islamic community, and i dont feel like i have to apologize for the actions of Nut cases. Ive even been ousted by my own Muslim community when they found out i worked for JTTF and homeland security, i was called a entrapement artist for the feds by the left wing papers. Rolling stone wrote horrible articles about me. So yes many Muslims do their job here to try to keep our families and children secure. And our nation Safe. Me as a German American whos family been here since 1746 and fought in every war this nation has been in. My conversion from lutheranism to Islam has not destroyed my Patriotism for the USA, But made it stronger. Because being on the Inside i see a real problem and i know what the problem is. im not a outsider looking in. and reading blogs and articles and thinking i know it all. YOU MUST BE ON THE INSIDE. Ill be the first one to say we need a litmus test in immigration before letting Muslims in. At least dont let them in from nations that are hot spots or give lie detector tests to all. It is cheaper than rebuilding twin towers etc. Stop comp videos on Jihad Killing from memri to daily, to other sites that support the killing of America. Revamp the freedom of speech law. We in the USA are too easy on this law, me being a local geneaologist i know 100 yrs ago you would be arrested for cursing in the streets of Rockford, Freeport etc. but now we allow websites like Revolutionmuslim.com to flourish because of the liberals allowing the free speech right to go beyond what it should be. im just tired of apologizing for these idiots and im tired of the same ol response from the so called muslim leaders that this is not ISlam. It is apart of islam because of the teachings of syed qutb and maududi mae it apart of islam and it will always be until the muslims fight these people theirselves, and get rid of them in this nation and all over the globe. Jameel Daughenbaugh
37 Comment by jack bailey on 7 November 2009:
#37. I think that the short of it is, that ultimately Muslims and other religions including atheists should not live together. However we keep trying to do so even though the final result is predictable.
38 Comment by Theodore M. Van Oosbree on 7 November 2009:
It is ironic that US soldiers are usually weaponless (even in combat zones!). I once visited the barracks of a Norwegian regiment and saw their assault rifles stacked in an unsecured rack in easy reach. Apparently the Norwegian Army trusts it soldiers and our army does not (then again the Norwegians are a phlegmatic lot and it is difficult to imagine one going postal with his Heckler & Koch).
39 Comment by Ken Zaretzke on 7 November 2009:
Mr. Oosbree,
Thanks for the observation and the compliment. I like your point as I’m half Norwegian myself.
40 Comment by Ken Hoop on 7 November 2009:
But, Mr. Fleming–you’re being disingenous even if one accepts verbatim your last post’s accusations. Why not admit the motives for the Saudi animus are largely driven by Zionist domination of American foreign policy and even of pseudo-conservative American Christian life, via dispensational premillenialism and the seminal
British-early Zionist funding thereof?
41 Comment by Thomas Fleming on 7 November 2009:
I have been in transit since early this morning. I don’t know which answer is more offensive to the standards of rational and polite discourse, Mr. Hoop’s or “Jameel’s.” As for the latter, the less said the better. Although I had no idea that the Muslim convert who wrote in to complain was the informant who had come to my office, I would hardly say anything different. On balance, Jameel deserves our pity for the ruin he has made of his life rather than our anger.
As for Mr. Hoop, let him pursue his fantasies elsewhere. Arab Muslims did their best to eliminate Christians from the Middle East and would purge the planet of all of us, if they had the brains and the weapons. Hoop has allowed his hatred of Israel and the Jews to blind him to historical reality. Beyond that, he is a complete and utter boor.
42 Comment by Theodore M. Van Oosbree on 7 November 2009:
Apparently Maj. Hasan used a FN 5.7 9 mm pistol in the attack. It is capable of holding a 30 round extended magazine which could explain his ability to fire so many shots and to prevent survivors from rushing him while he reloaded (reloading a semi-automatic pistol can be done quite rapidly if one has pre-loaded magazines in reserve).
43 Comment by Ken Hoop on 7 November 2009:
Mr. Fleming you need to read your own post, which did not refer to events in the historical Middle East, it referred specifically to Saudi actions against the United States.
44 Comment by Arius on 7 November 2009:
#36 (jameel daughenbaugh) is running a Muslim deception. He is trying to create doubt about blaming Islam and therefore Muslims. It is a variant of the ‘Islam is a religion of peace’ theme. It misdirects the infidel back into himself, blinding him to the growing threat of malevolent Islam in his midst.
45 Comment by Arius on 7 November 2009:
#44 Ken Hoop, the reason that not just Palestinian Christians but all Christians in the Middle East say that they lived peacefully with Muslims and blame the Jews is that they have internalized dhimmitude, i.e., they fear Muslim retribution and rush to the defense of Muslim interests to curry favor with Muslims. It is an act of submission to try to avoid being attacked. You cannot understand the extent of their fear. They will not admit it to you, and having been ingrained over centuries they won’t admit it even to themselves. It is an unconscious reaction. Once you know the facts of the brutal oppression they have suffered you then see the disconnect.
Why infer that Arab Muslims would be more ruthless than the Ottoman when they are equally ruthless, cruel, cold blooded, mass murders. Some know of the 1.5 million Armenians slaughtered by the Turks. Not many know of the one million Assyrians slaughtered by the Arabs. How about the Copts? They didn’t suffer under the Arabs?
46 Comment by robert m. peters on 7 November 2009:
The West, particularly the idiom of the West which has made itself manifest in America, has two enemies: an old enemy which is Islam and a relatively new enemy which is the cultural left whose antecedents are found in Georg Lukacs, Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfurt School whose most current disciplines sit at the highest levels of government, throughout academe and in the media. (I have concluded that “conservatives” and the political movements with which they are associated have exactly the same function as the “other” political parties had in the former East Germany, namely the illusion of a system of more than one party.)
These two enemies of the West are ironically antithetical to one another: one pursuing subsuming power through religious fanaticism order and the other promoting, in the words of one of its gurus, Herbert Marcuse, polymorphous perversity as in feminism, abortion, gay marriage, among other weapons, as means of deconstructing the organic commonwealths of the West, especially the family the Church and local community.
Yet, the latter does not hesitate to be an “adoring” apologist for the former, Islam, when Islam can be used to deconstruct the hated “West,” again, particularly in its American idiom.
Will the decadence of the anti-West ultimately undermine Islam, or will Islam exploit the moral vacuum left by the anti-culture in which we now find ourselves embedded and which we find, if we are honest, embedded in us?
47 Comment by Kirt Higdon on 8 November 2009:
#47 – Well said, Mr. Peters, and that last line is particularly to the point. That is why living a virtuous life is the most important resistance, without which any resistance at the political level is pointless.
48 Comment by Lone Racer on 8 November 2009:
@48: No, living a virtuous life is a good in itself. Absolutely nothing more. The occupationist regime simply laughs at such sentimentalist drivel, which is why you may lead as Christian a life as you want. Try leading an old school WHITE MAN’S life, however, and see what happens to you, at least if you are successful and attract notice.
And no, resistance at the political level is not only not pointless, if Sam Francis were here to reprimand your nonsense, he would say it has barely even been tried. Oh sure, occasionally the grassroots rises up a bit and gets a relevant initiative passed under or around the regime, such as CA Prop 187 in 1994, only to see the regime immediately crack down in the form of a Third World federal judge ruling it unconstitutional, said ruling then in effect being upheld through inaction by the Supreme Court.
But overall, we the Real American people have barely done a damn thing to resist what the great racial nationalist, Wilmot Roberston, in his seminal work, THE DISPOSSESSED MAJORITY (pub. 1972), recognized as the key fact of postwar America; namely, the comprehensive (political, cultural, economic, legal, etc) dispossession of America’s true racial/cultural (Anglo-Nordic) founding majority. Imagine that! In 1972, the US was about 87% white, but Robertson could already see which way the wind was blowing.
And why was it so clear by that time? Because in the 60s (in a big way; from the 40s in smaller fashion) we first abandoned, and, in quick succession, began a never-ending campaign of heaping scorn upon, the Racial Principle, which is the single most important principle of human collective and political affairs (overwhelmingly so wrt modern America). This principle is complicated and multi-layered, but its simplified essence, for present purposes, is of general and specific relevance to the American situation (as well as episodes like this latest multicultural massacre) as follows:
1) Racial homogeneity is essential to national cohesion. Or, mixed race societies do not ultimately make real collective nations.
2) America was founded, settled and built by whites, and thus is OUR country. Non-whites do not belong here (including that ‘troublesome presence’, the descendants of the African slaves).
3) Whites are objectively civilizationally superior to other races, especially (this will sound tautological, but it is crucial) in producing the kind of societies which we whites find most attractive.
4) There is no logical, sociobiological, or historical reason to assume that traditional America will be perpetuated by non-whites should they attain to a demographic majority.
Obviously, there is much more to the Principle, but I believe that the above roughly captures its essence. For the past half-century we white Americans (and to show that this is a biological, or at least biocultural, problem, and not a political let alone economic or historical, that is to say, structural, one, it must be acknowledged whites everywhere, quite apart from their very different national histories, political and economic systems, historic faiths, etc ) have totally rejected the Principle – have, indeed, been in the most astonishing headlong flight from it (from reality, you might say).
This total reversal of racial outlook, from normal white racism, to fanatical (psycho-religious) anti-racism, occurred as a result of actions taken by three groups: self-hating secular white leftists, foolish Christians, and minority activists (mainly Jews and blacks pre-1960s, today Jews and blacks still, along with all manner of rapidly numerically expanding non-white groups, including Muslim-”Americans”, of course).
The disempowerment of whites, and the empowerment of non-whites, is the story of postwar America. Obama is its culmination, as well as the avatar of our unfortunate American future.
White supremacism, by far the most Traditional American Value, has given way to white dispossession. As we enter the Next America, in which white dispossession will give way to white oppression and active persecution, both by the government as well as the inner-city “street”, resistance will become not only possible, but imperative. Whites were morally disarmed before they were politically dispossessed. More and more of us now, however, are waking up to the realities of race, that, as my favorite, and as yet still imaginary, bumper sticker has it, Diversity Sucks.
The real issue now is whether we can formulate A New Racial Ethics For Survival in time to save at least something of the culture of the old America, as well as to ensure that our people on US soil will be able to live tolerable lives free of both governmental oppression, and non-white criminal persecution. The core of that new ethics (really, just the old ethics properly applied in defense of white perpetuity) will be the recognition that whites have the right to communal survival, and that that survival depends upon collective action.
In a word, the first part of the answer to all of our problems is the advocacy and then political realization of White Nationalism. The US is afflicted by many problems outside of racial ones, but there is no hope for solving any of them unless the racial problem (awakening and mobilizing whites under conditions of diversity) is overcome.
49 Comment by Kirt Higdon on 8 November 2009:
#49 – What a diatribe I inspired with just two lines! Sorry, but I’ll stick with the traditional Christian ethics as taught by the Catholic Church.
50 Comment by Dan Phillips on 8 November 2009:
Is Lone Racer Captain Chaos? Inquiring minds want to know.
Since I am a former military psychiatrist, I have some thoughts on this matter that I am trying to formulate in long form. Briefly, I recognize a dynamic that was likely at work here that some who have never been part of the system may not see. Capt. Check may recognize it. In the military in times of war there is an extreme bias in the system toward keeping people fit and eligible for deployment. Maj. Nadal’s was likely viewed as a malcontent trying to shirk his deployment instead of as a genuine security risk. So his mouthing off was probably considered more of a behavior issue to be dealt with than a security or mental health issue. There really is no easy way to usher someone out of the military for no longer believing their oath.
51 Comment by Thomas Fleming on 8 November 2009:
I have put Mr. Hoop into the pending file to prevent his juvenile interruptions. We at Chronicles and I in particular have been writing about these matters for longer than anyone I can think of. We have always freely conceded that the rise in Islamic hatred of the US is tied to our government’s unequivocal support of Israel, while pointing out that since its inception Islam has been a religion of violence, the greater part of which has been aimed at Christendom. If our honorable Saudi “allies” are only funding violent Islamicist ideology in the US because of our support for Israel, one would think they might say something. The truth is they are what they always have been: ignorant, uneducated, and weird. They are no better than the spoiled billionaires of our own country, people like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet, but at least the American fools are not convinced that it is right to kill the infidels, namely us. Apologizing for the Saudis on the grounds of our relationship with Israel would be like excusing Charles Manson because he didn’t like “The Fearless Vampire Killers.”
Thanks to Dr. Phillipsand Mr. van Oosbree for bringing the conversation back to the topic by providing useful information.
52 Comment by Thomas Fleming on 8 November 2009:
Oh, and this just in from the nation’s newspaper of record: “General George Casey Jr., the Army chief of staff, said on Sunday that he was concerned that speculation about the religious beliefs of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, accused of killing 12 fellow soldiers and one civilian and wounding 30 0thers in a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, could “cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers.”
Sensitivity is what really matters, anything but protecting the American people and the soldiers under his command from violent fanatics. I have a nephew on his way back to the Middle East. It is ghastly to think under what sort of commanders he has to serve, the sensitive Casey and that slick political operator, David Petraeus. Even the best officers I meet in the services are suffering from a moral malaise that to me seems to run deeper than the Germans who only followed orders. As the poet wrote:
Nothing remains to hold against the rage:
Our soldiers do not fight nor bishops pray.
53 Comment by Anonymous on 8 November 2009:
I am an Army Flight Surgeon currently with one of the Airborne units, and can back up what Dr. Phillips says. The Army is suffering from an extreme shortage of trained physicians at this time. Psychiatrists, in particular, are in short supply. There exists a great need for mental health professionals in the combat zones.
For this reason, the Army bureaucracy funnels almost everyone through its training channels, unless they prove dangerous or grossly incompetent. MAJ Hasan hid from deployments for a number of years by extending his residency and fellowship training. Finally he could hide no more, and was assigned to a combat unit at the worst and most desolate Army post in the world, Fort Hood.
Some evidence points to the fact that MAJ Hasan was a marginal physician who had undergone counseling etc. during his training. In the Army today, this “counseling” is commonplace, and utterly meaningless. It exists to protect the reputation and promotion scheme for senior officers. Finally, the Army has become incredibly politically correct, and MAJ Hasan was no doubt protected from criticism and scrutiny by the mere fact of his being Muslim.
This last part is the most paradoxical and ludicrous. When even the United States Army can no longer identify and properly deal with an internal terrorist threat due to the restraints of political correctness and bureaucratic sloth, I tremble for the Republic.
The only real consequence of this unfortunate episode will be that myself and my comrades will be subjected to a few more hours of “cultural sensitivity training.”
54 Comment by Tom Flinn on 9 November 2009:
It says it all when the first response to the Ft. Hood massacre was “concern” there may be a backlash against Muslims, rather than for the dead GI’s and their families.
55 Comment by Christopher Check on 9 November 2009:
“The only real consequence of this unfortunate episode will be that myself and my comrades will be subjected to a few more hours of “cultural sensitivity training.”
I wish the Army Flight Surgeon were wrong, but what he says could not be more true.
The Army Flight Surgeon (and in this case, I do not blame him for not revealing his name), Dan Phillips, Theodore M. Van Oosbree, along with Harry Wisniewski, all provide some good insights as we make an effort to understand what happened and what failed to happen at Fort Hood. That the victims included a pregnant woman, a recent heart-attack victim, and a woman with six grandchildren tells us something about the scene and also about the condition of an Army that is painfully over committed. There is a useful piece at VDare by Allan Wilson that describes the action of a Soldier Readiness Processing and life on a military post, Ft. Hood in particular.
56 Comment by Mark Schaeber on 9 November 2009:
In the words of General Casey (quoted by Dr. Fleming @ # 52) and of Anonymous @ # 53 we see the American disease—fluffy sentimentality combined with willful ignorance and near-solipsistic narcissism—at work.
One wonders how this particular form of mental illness rose to its current ascendancy, especially in this society. Would anyone care to comment ? Or am I completely off base here ?
57 Comment by Chris Mallory on 9 November 2009:
#10
It was reported that the semi auto used was the FN 5.7. Basically a high velocity .22 developed by NATO to penetrate body armor. Cost in the US is around $1000. The AP rounds are police/mil restricted. It has a 20 round magazine. I would be interested in seeing his number of shots fired. I can see this round over penetrating and wounding more than one person, especially if they are all lined up like cattle waiting for shots or to fill out forms.
58 Comment by robert on 9 November 2009:
“It is impossible to fight one great religion with no religion.”
Pat Buchanan
“There has always been Islamic terrorism—how else did they eliminate so many Jews and Christians from the Middle East, rational persuasion? Second, we refuse to do anything about the Muslims who are in the United States and continue to support Muslim terrorists in Kosovo and Bosnia. This is the same policy that brought the Mujahidin and eventually the Taliban to power in Afghanistan. Third, and worst of all, we can simultaneously support the Jewish state and its Muslim enemies because we reject our own history, religion, and identity.” Tom Fleming
“The only real consequence of this unfortunate episode (at Fort Hood) will be that myself and my comrades will be subjected to a few more hours of “cultural sensitivity training.”
Annonymous Flight Surgeon
“That the victims included a pregnant woman, a recent heart-attack victim, and a woman with six grandchildren tells us something about the scene and also about the condition of an Army that is painfully over committed. Capt.Chris Check USMC RET
“T’is all in pieces” John Donne
59 Comment by Bill Haley on 9 November 2009:
It seems the problem is with the Muslim concept of God. They believe who He is and what He wills are not equally unchanging. If God can change His will today, murder can be permissible today even though forbidden for thousands of years. Can someone please tell me how that is something peripheral to Muslim belief?
It seems to follow that there are two types of Muslims those who follow the internal logic of their beliefs (extremists or terrorists) and those who do not (peaceful or mainstream).
Dr. Fleming, I enjoyed your piece, but please loose the vitriol. It will only make your arguments more pungent.
60 Comment by janoko on 9 November 2009:
Some of you describe the strict rules to prevent US soldiers on military bases from having weapons. How come nobody asks how did this guy get his pistols? This is the largest elephant in the room everybody ignores.
J.
61 Comment by harry colin on 9 November 2009:
I think you might be confusing possession of Army-issued weapons and personal weapons he could acquire from any number of private gun shops or the rod and gun clubs on base. It would be virtually impossible for the security apparatus to preclude the carrying of a weapon if an officer intends to do so and conceals it from view.
62 Comment by Andrew George on 9 November 2009:
Presumably he went to the store and bought it. I don’t think there’s an elephant in this room. That 5.7 is a nice piece, but well within the means of a guy making major’s pay.
Probably just that waste paper basket in the corner.
63 Comment by Christopher Check on 10 November 2009:
Andrew and Harry give give explanations, and Chris Mallory helps clear up the story, as well, with a good prediction of the behavior of that round in that environment. If Major Husan were a weapons enthusiast as seems to be reported, it is hardly a surprise that he might carry such a weapon in the trunk of his car to and from the range. By range, here, I mean recreational range, not training range. I cannot confirm that there is such a range at Ft. Hood, but I would be surprised to learn there is not. I expect, also, that there are (large?) parts of Ft. Hood where hunting is permitted.
A desired response from a post commander in the wake of this event, since he is forbidden to profile, is to post armed security at other likely venues for a terrorist attack. I cannot imagine what this would require, however, in terms of increasing the size of the Military Police, which includes (a majority of?) civilians. Moreover, MPs, Shore Patrols, etc. are more in the practice of keeping servicemen from beating up their wives or each other after a night of drinking.
It is reasonable to expect more such attacks on bases: why kill armed soldiers, reasons the jihadist, in the Middle East, when it’s possible to kill them unarmed at home? There are so many places where servicemen (and their families) gather in large numbers on a regular basis (outside the main gate, too), that the task would be daunting to impossible.
I will add that our friend Srdja Trifkovic was in the habit of repeating that, in times of crisis, a Muslim who seems benign or modern is no different in one sense from a Christian. He will return to the roots of his religion. The distinction Americans foolishly continue to try to draw between modern and traditional Muslims does not bear much scrutiny.
64 Comment by Derek Leaberry on 10 November 2009:
It appears another cultural victory of the Left has been its infiltration and even dominance over the ethos of the military, especially the military academies. And remember this- the Left has remolded the military largely under the Republican Administrations of George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford.
65 Comment by Bruce on 10 November 2009:
@62
I agree with Mr. Check about the foolish distinction described in his last paragrpah. This sort of things remains an essence of Islam just as, say, taking up one’s cross remains an essence of Christianity even though most modern Christians don’t do it in any meaningful way.
66 Comment by robert on 10 November 2009:
“It appears another cultural victory of the Left has been its infiltration and even dominance over the ethos of the military, especially the military academies.”
This is where the espirit de corps is established and maintained. When the best and brightest started attending these schools without a smattering of Greek or Latin it was not the end, rather the beginning of the end. The emphasis on engineering and science has slowed the process but there comes a time when even our own traditions manifest their truth against our will. The ancient phrase: “Ars sine scientia nihil” has become realized as “science without art is not just nothing, it is nihilistic.” Or science without love is a “Fort Hood Massacre” written across the stars and stripes or the Southern Cross.!!
67 Comment by Arius on 10 November 2009:
The general that said the “lack of diversity in the Army is worse than mass murder” let the cat out of the bag. That statement speaks volumes on the current reigning delusional mentality. How could I explain this to my relatives that died in the 1915 genocide?
68 Comment by robert on 10 November 2009:
Yes, but the Turk is a historical scoundrel,a particularly vile and despicable race who know this about themselves whereas we Americans are almost as destructive, yet delude ourselves into thinking we are some type of savior to the Middle East. One can not give what one does not have. One can be mean and cunning or just mean or cunning, but to be mean and reliably stupid is to play the useful idiot which we do every four years by voting for our enemy, the republican party.
69 Comment by Bryan on 10 November 2009:
One of the soldiers killed by the Jihadist was a pregnant woman returning from Iraq. The media nonchalanty mentions it as if this is standard. Perhaps it is and I’m the only relic that has a problem with it. She was described a lover of poetry, dancing and had child like energy. She wanted to make the military a lifetime career. Do you sleep soundly in your bed knowing a petite, pregnant, dancing poet stands watch over you?
I believe today’s military personnel are woefully lacking in comparison to the men of 1942-1945.
70 Comment by robert on 10 November 2009:
” today’s military personnel are woefully lacking in comparison to the men of 1942-1945.”
Our best and finest fighters were 1862 -1865, the last of the caveliers, and Southerners.
71 Comment by Daniel Maxwell on 10 November 2009:
@68
Good point, but the fact that he killed an innocent, pregnant woman makes the fact that the media is making excuses for this guy all the more infuriating.
72 Comment by Bryan on 10 November 2009:
Robert you dare add to the heresy by claiming Confederate soldiers were the finest American fighters. Afterall they could only march double time several miles barefooted, and then fight a battle. While hungry and suffering from a litany of ailments. Pray tell some raggedy, racist, ignorant cracker is a superior soldier to our brave men and women in camouflage pagamas
73 Comment by robert on 10 November 2009:
I have always thought this “greatest generation” business was self-serving propaganda. General Patton was much more akin to Jackson or Forrest than he was to Beedle Smith and Eisenhower but who from that generation would know why or even care? Answer: Nobody, or at least nobody that counts.
74 Comment by Derek Leaberry on 10 November 2009:
Although American soldiers in every war are to be respected and honored, no American soldier has fought under such physical privation and adversity than the Confederate soldier, especially those of General Lee’s army.
75 Comment by Bryan on 10 November 2009:
General Patton was a grandson of Confederate officer killed in the war. He was very aware and proud of his ancestor. Eisenhower was an admirer of R.E.Lee. I believe it was state media liberal Tom Brokaw who coined the “Greatest Generation” mantra. Never cared for it much myself. Conscription allowed for the military machine acquire the best men.
76 Comment by Ken Zaretzke on 10 November 2009:
#72. That’s a good analogy. Patton hailed from the South, where he grew up venerating his military forebears. He later moved to California but always remembered where he was from. He was notoriously impatient, and by causing his superiors to not trust him, this may have led to the Red Army’s conquest of part of Germany, and thus to the Cold War. But that is more the fault of his (relatively) timid superiors. Patton could not have survived in today’s PC military; he’d be drummed out of the service.
77 Comment by Fred Breisch on 10 November 2009:
Bryan @#68 It is a sad commentary on our military leaders that they allow women, much less pregnant women to serve in the military, especially in areas where there is some danger. They are an expensive and unnecessary distaction to the men in uniform. I feel sorry for men who accept this practice of our Federal Government.
78 Comment by Andrew George on 10 November 2009:
#68-71
This moronic sentimentality would be laughable if it weren’t so thoroughly insulting to those currently bearing arms in service to the nation.
79 Comment by Daniel Maxwell on 10 November 2009:
@77
How in any way was my comment insulting?
80 Comment by Bryan on 10 November 2009:
-The PC military worshiperer pokes his head from his the golpher hole. Probably a New England hole at that. Andy, the truth is insulting but none the less its reality. Allright comrade tell me what is being done any where by the co-ed military that makes any difference to me other than adding to Goverenment debt that will make the dollar near worthless. Wow how long did take you to think of that jaw dropping line “moronic sentimentality”. I find it stimulating to insult your ilk.
Daniel#76
The civilian military did not send a pregnant woman to Iraq. She was sullied there while deployed on duty as United States soldier. That’s the real insult to American tax payer.
81 Comment by Andrew George on 10 November 2009:
Mr Maxwell,
Please excuse my imprecision. Your comment was not insulting.
82 Comment by Bryan on 10 November 2009:
#80 I hope mine was.
83 Comment by Bryan on 10 November 2009:
#81
Imprecision no. Idiocy yes.
84 Comment by Andrew George on 10 November 2009:
#81
No, it was stupid. This exchange is rapidly going downhill. I fear if this continues we will be sent to find Ken Hoop.
85 Comment by Andrew George on 10 November 2009:
#82
Yes. Your post at 81 was quite idiotic.
Back on topic. It is astounding what is coming out about this case. The overt comments this guy was making without anything being done defies imagination (particularly among the rank and file). I just cannot imagine an officer conducting himself as such without censure, reprimand, or out right court martial.
It has less to do with PC, I think, that what Anonymous gets at at 53. Namely: manpower.
86 Comment by Bryan on 11 November 2009:
#84 You’re one who sent it that direction. Back on topic, fine by me.
87 Comment by J.D. Salyer on 11 November 2009:
#84
“It has less to do with PC, I think, that what Anonymous gets at at 53. Namely: manpower.”
Go back and read post #53 again. Do the remarks made there really lead you to think we can safely set aside PC as a factor of discussion?
I.e.:
“Finally, the Army has become incredibly politically correct, and MAJ Hasan was no doubt protected from criticism and scrutiny by the mere fact of his being Muslim.”
With nearly 6 years on active duty, I can vouch for the fact that the Navy, too, is incredibly politically correct.
88 Comment by Etienne Gervaise on 11 November 2009:
@76 Ken
In a way Patton did not survive. His untimely death in a car crash is viewed with suspicion by many — especially conspiracy theorists. Patton both distrusted and detested the Reds, but the world had just been made safe for socialism whether it be the Soviet brand, or the Western welfare state variety. The renegade general had no place within the post-Christian Gramscian worldview.
89 Comment by J.D. Salyer on 11 November 2009:
“factor of discussion”
factor
90 Comment by Etienne Gervaise on 11 November 2009:
With regards to the Dar al Hijrah Mosque at 3159 Row Street in Falls Church, I have more bad news. The Saudi Arabian Embassy is building an even larger “cultural center” less than 5 miles away at Hilltop Road in Fairfax. These are dangerous occupation forces in the nation’s capitol. The only difference is Americans don’t shoot back like they do in Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact our police state discourages anything other than tolerance.
The only bright thing I’ve seen lately is a salesman at Clark Brothers in Warrenton refusing to sell a handgun to an Arab.
91 Comment by Jasper on 11 November 2009:
When I heard of this killing I thought two things.
1. does that mean that soldiers returning from a war zone would have to discuss their fears and doubts with a muslim psychiatrist?
(could the military have any more contempt for the soldiers that served their country !)
2. what a shabby state the US military is in.
92 Comment by J McKean on 12 November 2009:
There is one certainty in all this mess: the government will do nothing to stop Muslims from murdering our fellow Americans. This will inevitably cause a violent backlash among patriotic Americans, much like the pro-lifers who misguidedly shoot abortionists. Waiting in the wings will be Obama and his gun banning minions who are itching for an excuse to disarm us all.
(From a veteran on Veteran’s Day)
93 Comment by Craig Finley on 12 November 2009:
Dear Mr. Fleming,
Thank you for a superb article that finally tells the truth about Islam in America. As a former soldier in the Army (5 years at Fort Hood as an MP sergeant)I can state this was an avoidable shooting. There were more than enough red flags to have warranted relieving him of duty pending a formal investigation. Do you think if he had been spouting white supremacist remarks the Army would have ignored him? I hope those responsible are charged with dereliction of duty spend the rest of their lives in Leavenworth.
94 Comment by Gilbert Jacobi on 12 November 2009:
Jasper@91,
1. “Does that mean that soldiers returning from a war zone would have to discuss their fears and doubts with a muslim psychiatrist?
(could the military have any more contempt for the soldiers that served their country !)”
An acute observation. Here’s what got me about the Veteran’s Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery: the pipsqueak voice of the female soldier giving the commands “about face!” and “forward march!” to the color guard. God bless her, she probably runs marathons and may even have shown courage under fire, (I couldn’t see the front of her uniform to note any decorations) but good grief! She gave this solemn occassion the sound of the sidelines of a high school football game.
95 Comment by syed saboor on 12 November 2009:
The majority of Muslims in America don’t represent the voices of the majority of Muslims in the Islamic world. The Muslims in America are not “true” Muslims, because they out of political correctness claim that violence is not mandated in Islam; that Islam is not antagonistic towards Jews; that Islam does not impose capital punishment on deviants–gays, lesbians, fornicators, drunks, etc.. The fact is that Islam does allow all of these things, and it is not Islamaphobia to say so. It is the honest to God truth.
96 Comment by Etienne Gervaise on 12 November 2009:
Getting back to your headline, “when will they learn?” The answer is that they won’t because they’re (whoever) are too busy being educated. Miss Brodie knew the difference.
97 Comment by Etienne Gervaise on 12 November 2009:
@ 91 Jasper
Rather than sending war vets to a mohammedan shrink, the army would do better to prescribe marijuana, and release the soldiers in the ‘hood where they could deal with our very own domestic terrorism problems. I might be wrong on this, but I’ve really gotten to the point where I don’t care. A good friend loaned me a copy of The Clansman (1906), the basis of DW Griffith’s Birth of A Nation. Nothing has changed in the past century — except for the worse. I suppose the prophet is not without honor except in his own country.
98 Comment by David Jones on 13 November 2009:
Mr. Bryant at #69.
I do believe I prefer to be watched over by a petite, pregnant, dancing poet as opposed to Mr. Obama (Peace Be Upon Him). I think we all would be vastly better off if that were the case.
99 Comment by Matt on 13 November 2009:
One possibility that no one in the media has considered or voiced is that maybe the reason the NSA, FBI, etc. did not share the information that it had on Hasan with the military is that their wiretaps, etc. were illegal. They were violating Hasan’s civil rights. Isn’t Hasan an American Citizen? I say this because it this is the case, then the real culprit is Senator Leahy from Vermont along with the ACLU restricting the power of the government to surveille international calls, emails, etc. We should not call this the Ft. Hood Massacre, but the Senator Leahy Massacre.
100 Comment by John Mitchel's last laugh on 13 November 2009:
An article that gets to the heart of the matter: we, meaning the entire post-Christendom, have a Semitic problem.
That is to say that we have a problem with two factions of anti-Christs focused on race/ethnicity/language/culture that is Semitic and anti-European. It is a matter of Semitic wishing to destroy and rule over the remains of European Christian.
It is every bit as suicidally insane to expect Jews to be true aids against the horrors of Mohammedanism as to expect Mohammedans to be aids against the perversions promoted and the endless extortion demanded by Jews. Each is but a wing of the Semitic war against Christ and European peoples and cultures.
101 Comment by Mark Higdon on 14 November 2009:
This is a test.
I have not read this TJF piece nor the 98 comments in re nor anything at all on Chroniclesmagazine.com for a month or two.
This message–posted during an interim of utter internet boredom–is merely to ascertain if I am still banished from posting (unlike many, I post under my own full name) on this blog. TJF banned me back in August for–he said–30 days because I posted an opinion that he considered “rude” re one of his articles. I soon (after 31 days) discovered that my “30-day” banishment was apparently indefinite.
Having already allowed for a generous margin of forgetfulness/unintended cyber-difficulties/whatever, I will know–as soon as I hit the “submit comment” button below–if TJF is a man of his word, or merely a thin-skinned internet martinet.
102 Comment by jeremiah whitmoore on 15 November 2009:
Matt,
Leahy Massacre? No less than 911 was the Bush Massacre. Agree?
Both are part of the same disease afflicting our civilization.
Apologies for the brevity as my finger stamping on a jacobin blackberry is not my thing.
103 Comment by Jack on 15 November 2009:
You forgot a 4th fatal flaw: political correctness. General Casey worries more about a decline in diversity than he does about the dozens of shot soldiers. Such men are not friends of the soldier. A caring father would not allow his son to join such an Army.
104 Comment by Joseph ebbecke on 17 November 2009:
Mr. Check, comment 55:
Thanks for the refernce to the excellent VDARE piece. It is, however, by Allan Wall, (not Wilson), a National Guardsman
with much Ft Hood experience. I went to high school in Killeen
and spent a lot of time on the Fort Hood reservation (almost completely open at the time) and this horrifying event has obsessed me over the last 2 weeks.
(http://vdare.com/awall/091108_memo.htm)