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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;Isms&#8221; That Bedevil Bush</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/index.php/2008/03/24/the-isms-that-bedevil-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-119684</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COMEON427,

you&#039;re quite the deep thinker...</description>
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<p>you&#8217;re quite the deep thinker&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: COMEON427</title>
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		<dc:creator>COMEON427</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 36  I think you have a good instinct but a warped vision of what would make America successful.  

I think we should have any citizen owe two years of service to the country.  Men and women alike should have to complete this by age 26 but not be allowed the traditional &#039;draft&#039; exemption of attending college.  There should however, be an exemption for those completing high school until age 20 for various and sundry reasons.  Women have the same ability to contribute to a great country.

I believe the American version of democracy will work better when the population is truly heterogenous; with no remaining large homogenous groups bent on sustaining their self-interests.  So perhaps your program of purity could be turned inside out, require cross-breeding of all minority types until no one persons descent is truly remarkable from any others.  Probably we are closer to this reality and it&#039;d be easier to attain.

In addition, I truly have no understanding of all of this conversation about &quot;true freedom&quot; being related to the south.  What I do know is that I could possibly listen to a southerner for more than 20 seconds if we bred out that irritating accent of theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 36  I think you have a good instinct but a warped vision of what would make America successful.  </p>
<p>I think we should have any citizen owe two years of service to the country.  Men and women alike should have to complete this by age 26 but not be allowed the traditional &#8216;draft&#8217; exemption of attending college.  There should however, be an exemption for those completing high school until age 20 for various and sundry reasons.  Women have the same ability to contribute to a great country.</p>
<p>I believe the American version of democracy will work better when the population is truly heterogenous; with no remaining large homogenous groups bent on sustaining their self-interests.  So perhaps your program of purity could be turned inside out, require cross-breeding of all minority types until no one persons descent is truly remarkable from any others.  Probably we are closer to this reality and it&#8217;d be easier to attain.</p>
<p>In addition, I truly have no understanding of all of this conversation about &#8220;true freedom&#8221; being related to the south.  What I do know is that I could possibly listen to a southerner for more than 20 seconds if we bred out that irritating accent of theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Eunomia &#187; Isolationists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eunomia &#187; Isolationists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The word isolationist is inherently pejorative and is an extremely loaded term, and moreover there are not actually any real isolationists yesterday, today or at any other time.  These figures are the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Red Skull</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Red Skull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Buchanon is once again direct on target.The dissatifaction with the state of affairs in this country is palpable.Most people i talk to aren&#039;t very hopeful about the future of the nation.Endless war,loss of liberty,down-sizing,off-shoring,importation of foreign &quot;slave labor&quot;,pension and benefit cuts,unaffordable healthcare,a controlled press,and plummeting dollar are all combining to bring America to its knees.The fact that a small group of chosenites are the main manipulators is lost on the average joe 6-pack who yell loudly for their team on the weekend.Neither party will change anything because they&#039;re both bought and paid for.The only candidate who might have reversed this ugly trend and saved the situation has been selectively marginalized by the controlled MSM.Can&#039;t have someone abolishing the Fed or the IRS,or restoring liberty, can we?The choices we&#039;re to be given include a mulatto muslim marxist with a white-hating &quot;advisor&quot;,a communist bi-sexual,power-hungry whore or a mentally unstable,closet-liberal,free trade,open borders sell-out torture victim.Either way count on more illegals(soon to be legalized),more war for a foreign country,more bad economy,more resentment from the rest of the world for sticking our nose where it doesn&#039;t belong.The yankee empire has alot of chickens coming home to roost in the near future,and when they all lay their eggs,this hen-house of horrors will collapse like a house of cards.The Iceberg has been sighted, and thanx to the captain and crew,we&#039;re headed straight for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Buchanon is once again direct on target.The dissatifaction with the state of affairs in this country is palpable.Most people i talk to aren&#8217;t very hopeful about the future of the nation.Endless war,loss of liberty,down-sizing,off-shoring,importation of foreign &#8220;slave labor&#8221;,pension and benefit cuts,unaffordable healthcare,a controlled press,and plummeting dollar are all combining to bring America to its knees.The fact that a small group of chosenites are the main manipulators is lost on the average joe 6-pack who yell loudly for their team on the weekend.Neither party will change anything because they&#8217;re both bought and paid for.The only candidate who might have reversed this ugly trend and saved the situation has been selectively marginalized by the controlled MSM.Can&#8217;t have someone abolishing the Fed or the IRS,or restoring liberty, can we?The choices we&#8217;re to be given include a mulatto muslim marxist with a white-hating &#8220;advisor&#8221;,a communist bi-sexual,power-hungry whore or a mentally unstable,closet-liberal,free trade,open borders sell-out torture victim.Either way count on more illegals(soon to be legalized),more war for a foreign country,more bad economy,more resentment from the rest of the world for sticking our nose where it doesn&#8217;t belong.The yankee empire has alot of chickens coming home to roost in the near future,and when they all lay their eggs,this hen-house of horrors will collapse like a house of cards.The Iceberg has been sighted, and thanx to the captain and crew,we&#8217;re headed straight for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol.</description>
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		<title>By: James Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;re all &quot;nuts&quot; (or therabouts)... sorry i usually can only read me, imperfectly. this is all like a workout on a treadmill, &#039;as if&#039; someone said it&#039;s 400 miles to Philadelphia and we all somehow believed getting on the treadmill and running the 400 miles on the meter would get us there.

sorry. i&#039;m bailing out - 

more accurately... everyone else jumped, i&#039;m landing my plane and going Home. there is NOTHING else. sorry. your Endorphins are plummeting now... get them Up again elsehwere or have wine... you won&#039;t notice.

funny... go to a comedy club. Or read navrozov... now i appreciate him. no wonder chronicles grabbed him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;re all &#8220;nuts&#8221; (or therabouts)&#8230; sorry i usually can only read me, imperfectly. this is all like a workout on a treadmill, &#8216;as if&#8217; someone said it&#8217;s 400 miles to Philadelphia and we all somehow believed getting on the treadmill and running the 400 miles on the meter would get us there.</p>
<p>sorry. i&#8217;m bailing out &#8211; </p>
<p>more accurately&#8230; everyone else jumped, i&#8217;m landing my plane and going Home. there is NOTHING else. sorry. your Endorphins are plummeting now&#8230; get them Up again elsehwere or have wine&#8230; you won&#8217;t notice.</p>
<p>funny&#8230; go to a comedy club. Or read navrozov&#8230; now i appreciate him. no wonder chronicles grabbed him.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m similarly mixed: I have little wars inside between the Celts and English, then occasionally a Frenchman will break free and chaos will ensue. Then out of the chaos comes the voice of the Southron: Ethnogenesis! Thankfully I&#039;ve not yet discovered any Yankee blood.

I like the Celts the best though, so I usually pretend I&#039;m fully Celtic... A Celt living in the Southland. No one likes the English nowadays anyway, nor whites for that matter. It&#039;s the One Drop Rule in reverse: one drop ethnic and you can get in line for reparations (as opposed to one drop and you&#039;re excluded.)

Back to the meaning of life... I recall wandering around my dorm room in college for a few days half mad after a biology *cough* evolution *cough* class had presented what appeared a fairly tight case for evolution, the final ah bit of sealant was how we could have gone from unicellular organisms to multicellular... Suddenly my Christian leaning theism was shattered, and I couldn&#039;t find meaning... I won&#039;t go into the details of what thoughts led me out of this wilderness, but this type of thing is maddening... and though all must face this uncertainty and fear of the abyss, most don&#039;t seem to fully comprehend it or perhaps are simply wise enough not to face it.

It&#039;s refreshing to talk to someone who forms his own opinions, who thinks, even if our thoughts don&#039;t count (since we might be outside the current American culture... which would be a love of McDonald&#039;s of course!! - McDonald&#039;s being inspired by the American moral center wherein all meaning is derived: I consume therefore I am, the purpose of life is pleasure, and when in doubt blame whitey.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m similarly mixed: I have little wars inside between the Celts and English, then occasionally a Frenchman will break free and chaos will ensue. Then out of the chaos comes the voice of the Southron: Ethnogenesis! Thankfully I&#8217;ve not yet discovered any Yankee blood.</p>
<p>I like the Celts the best though, so I usually pretend I&#8217;m fully Celtic&#8230; A Celt living in the Southland. No one likes the English nowadays anyway, nor whites for that matter. It&#8217;s the One Drop Rule in reverse: one drop ethnic and you can get in line for reparations (as opposed to one drop and you&#8217;re excluded.)</p>
<p>Back to the meaning of life&#8230; I recall wandering around my dorm room in college for a few days half mad after a biology *cough* evolution *cough* class had presented what appeared a fairly tight case for evolution, the final ah bit of sealant was how we could have gone from unicellular organisms to multicellular&#8230; Suddenly my Christian leaning theism was shattered, and I couldn&#8217;t find meaning&#8230; I won&#8217;t go into the details of what thoughts led me out of this wilderness, but this type of thing is maddening&#8230; and though all must face this uncertainty and fear of the abyss, most don&#8217;t seem to fully comprehend it or perhaps are simply wise enough not to face it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s refreshing to talk to someone who forms his own opinions, who thinks, even if our thoughts don&#8217;t count (since we might be outside the current American culture&#8230; which would be a love of McDonald&#8217;s of course!! &#8211; McDonald&#8217;s being inspired by the American moral center wherein all meaning is derived: I consume therefore I am, the purpose of life is pleasure, and when in doubt blame whitey.)</p>
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		<title>By: James Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jews should prefer pro-Jewish whites to anti-Jewish immigrants. And I’m starting to see them switch over, e.g. with culturalism. However, their power in the US and history of dominating on the left is unsettling, and I certainly don’t like that they have different foreign ties than do Europeans or that they identity far less weakly with Europeans and perhaps with America than do those Europeans of other nations. Hopefully we can both work together with such concerns appropriately considered, else we might both be driven from the US.&quot; - Frank

Hey Frank - thanks to people like you who Can understand me I&#039;ll keep my nome de plume. No it is my *real name James Beck - is there really such a thing-?-a real name - except for those of our genus possesed of language. jews are cool or have been, as it were, slightly in advance -not much- so they&#039;re backtracking to who they are more than not. Funny. Life. I like enjoy smacking them around a little bit...they smack me around and when they do i presume they enjoy it? Life. I have a minority of jewish genes, for which i&#039;m grateful, they&#039;re in the minority. When i feel self-loathing, i assume it&#039;s the jewish genes having good taste for a change. I doubt it&#039;s a lynching mob of the European genes. Yeah i&#039;ll stick with me from now on so as not to confuse you - i&#039;ll just post under the above monker.

Now that i&#039;ve said that... my experience has been that the trolls will start posting under my name, sadly. i wish they&#039;d Get a Life?! whatever. Does it really matter Frank? ... Let&#039;s hope so of course - albeit probably not. Don&#039;t despair... what possibly could be a better argument for the spiritual? ... wuv, ya. [oh, no now they&#039;ll send me to therapy.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jews should prefer pro-Jewish whites to anti-Jewish immigrants. And I’m starting to see them switch over, e.g. with culturalism. However, their power in the US and history of dominating on the left is unsettling, and I certainly don’t like that they have different foreign ties than do Europeans or that they identity far less weakly with Europeans and perhaps with America than do those Europeans of other nations. Hopefully we can both work together with such concerns appropriately considered, else we might both be driven from the US.&#8221; &#8211; Frank</p>
<p>Hey Frank &#8211; thanks to people like you who Can understand me I&#8217;ll keep my nome de plume. No it is my *real name James Beck &#8211; is there really such a thing-?-a real name &#8211; except for those of our genus possesed of language. jews are cool or have been, as it were, slightly in advance -not much- so they&#8217;re backtracking to who they are more than not. Funny. Life. I like enjoy smacking them around a little bit&#8230;they smack me around and when they do i presume they enjoy it? Life. I have a minority of jewish genes, for which i&#8217;m grateful, they&#8217;re in the minority. When i feel self-loathing, i assume it&#8217;s the jewish genes having good taste for a change. I doubt it&#8217;s a lynching mob of the European genes. Yeah i&#8217;ll stick with me from now on so as not to confuse you &#8211; i&#8217;ll just post under the above monker.</p>
<p>Now that i&#8217;ve said that&#8230; my experience has been that the trolls will start posting under my name, sadly. i wish they&#8217;d Get a Life?! whatever. Does it really matter Frank? &#8230; Let&#8217;s hope so of course &#8211; albeit probably not. Don&#8217;t despair&#8230; what possibly could be a better argument for the spiritual? &#8230; wuv, ya. [oh, no now they'll send me to therapy.]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Beck,

the term I&#039;ve heard used is &#039;ancestral traditions,&#039; and I&#039;ve closely associated it with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/stranger.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kipling&#039;s The Stranger&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Beck,</p>
<p>the term I&#8217;ve heard used is &#8216;ancestral traditions,&#8217; and I&#8217;ve closely associated it with <a href="http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/stranger.html" rel="nofollow">Kipling&#8217;s The Stranger</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/index.php/2008/03/24/the-isms-that-bedevil-bush/comment-page-2/#comment-117707</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Beck,

clearly you&#039;re not whom I was thinking you were... disregard the previous 2 posts. My excuse: reading/posting in a hurry :P Apologies... &gt;.&gt; There is a poster in here who posts odd things, but your posts are clearly stated and undeserving of the mistaken identity. (Perhaps then I&#039;m the one who needs to follow his own advice :P ) I&#039;m a fool for my haste - what I can follow of your posts are brilliant, I can&#039;t see how I made the mistake now.

That matter settled:

The elitist statement you make here is spot on: &lt;blockquote&gt;They are in the minority, yes, but they are a well organized team with the same purpose vs. a much larger population of sort of lone rangers and mavericks who don’t usually tend to play well together.&lt;/blockquote&gt;To overthrow them, a similarly unified and well organised minority/elite must form. However... I don&#039;t think Mr. Press agrees with you on the identity of the elite.

&lt;blockquote&gt;(they’re not on it) and your intellectual arguments, although important, and unity on board the great ship is salutary - it’s like rearranging the deck chairs at this point?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Jews should prefer pro-Jewish whites to anti-Jewish immigrants. And I&#039;m starting to see them switch over, e.g. with culturalism. However, their power in the US and history of dominating on the left is unsettling, and I certainly don&#039;t like that they have different foreign ties than do Europeans or that they identity far less weakly with Europeans and perhaps with America than do those Europeans of other nations. Hopefully we can both work together with such concerns appropriately considered, else we might both be driven from the US.

I liked these too: &lt;blockquote&gt;When you combine stupidity with hubris or spiritual pride you get a puritan who is at least not a barbarian per se, so there’s the good news there. Right? When you combine stupidity with hubris of a secular nature you get a member of the Frankfort school&lt;/blockquote&gt;Today we have the Way of the Cross univeralism combined with a seemingly selfish sole concern for one&#039;s own immortal soul compounded by willful ignorance. And on the other side, a similar secular and pagan manifestation albeit more materialist.

And spread out among them are a few of us sane humans with some healthy attachment to fellow humans and the material world.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But Frankfort may be conscious of the mistake and surreptitiously utilizing the error as a carrot &amp; cudgel in moving all of the rubes around for its own purposes. If I’m conscious of it, arent’ they? … But the puritans in their religious fervor were ’sincere’ or *real phonies (i.e. phonies who don’t know that they are.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;I never cared for the idea of being ruled over by an elite that is less than honest with me either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Beck,</p>
<p>clearly you&#8217;re not whom I was thinking you were&#8230; disregard the previous 2 posts. My excuse: reading/posting in a hurry <img src='http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  Apologies&#8230; &gt;.&gt; There is a poster in here who posts odd things, but your posts are clearly stated and undeserving of the mistaken identity. (Perhaps then I&#8217;m the one who needs to follow his own advice <img src='http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  ) I&#8217;m a fool for my haste &#8211; what I can follow of your posts are brilliant, I can&#8217;t see how I made the mistake now.</p>
<p>That matter settled:</p>
<p>The elitist statement you make here is spot on:<br />
<blockquote>They are in the minority, yes, but they are a well organized team with the same purpose vs. a much larger population of sort of lone rangers and mavericks who don’t usually tend to play well together.</p></blockquote>
<p>To overthrow them, a similarly unified and well organised minority/elite must form. However&#8230; I don&#8217;t think Mr. Press agrees with you on the identity of the elite.</p>
<blockquote><p>(they’re not on it) and your intellectual arguments, although important, and unity on board the great ship is salutary &#8211; it’s like rearranging the deck chairs at this point?</p></blockquote>
<p>Jews should prefer pro-Jewish whites to anti-Jewish immigrants. And I&#8217;m starting to see them switch over, e.g. with culturalism. However, their power in the US and history of dominating on the left is unsettling, and I certainly don&#8217;t like that they have different foreign ties than do Europeans or that they identity far less weakly with Europeans and perhaps with America than do those Europeans of other nations. Hopefully we can both work together with such concerns appropriately considered, else we might both be driven from the US.</p>
<p>I liked these too:<br />
<blockquote>When you combine stupidity with hubris or spiritual pride you get a puritan who is at least not a barbarian per se, so there’s the good news there. Right? When you combine stupidity with hubris of a secular nature you get a member of the Frankfort school</p></blockquote>
<p>Today we have the Way of the Cross univeralism combined with a seemingly selfish sole concern for one&#8217;s own immortal soul compounded by willful ignorance. And on the other side, a similar secular and pagan manifestation albeit more materialist.</p>
<p>And spread out among them are a few of us sane humans with some healthy attachment to fellow humans and the material world.</p>
<blockquote><p>But Frankfort may be conscious of the mistake and surreptitiously utilizing the error as a carrot &amp; cudgel in moving all of the rubes around for its own purposes. If I’m conscious of it, arent’ they? … But the puritans in their religious fervor were ’sincere’ or *real phonies (i.e. phonies who don’t know that they are.)</p></blockquote>
<p>I never cared for the idea of being ruled over by an elite that is less than honest with me either.</p>
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