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“TO BOB: Containing Islam is achievable, of course. What we need is the will, political will, to enforce:
1. Political & military disengagement from the Muslim world;
1a Development of alternative energy resources;
2. Quarantining the Muslim world (strict cordon sanitaire);
3. Immediate and total ban on immigration from the Muslim world;
4. Repatriation of all immigrants who support Jihad & Sharia;
5. Swift and devastating military response to any attempt of the Muslim world to expand its domain.
Whenever left to its own devices, Islam declined. Whenever devoid of external outlets for aggression, it focused its energies on internicine fights.
MAD is of dubious value vis-a-vis millenarian visionaries a la Ahmadinejad, but the problem is most acute for Israel which should deal with it as she deems fit.”

There is a new problem with the cure also:

What if:

a) there are darker forces (black ops, military/industrial complex common interests), conspiracy-like sources which could exploit all of this?
b) The ultimate goal is not containing Islam but empowering Islam to act (unknowingly) against the vast Russian lands (not as far fetched as it seems – unite Bangladesh and Pakistan, develop links with Mongolia, Uzbekistan and you have a strong “Southern Front”. Moscow would be in a bind how to re-enact the 22nd Century battle of Kursk (closer to Armageddon).
c) For the most part (thank God for that) I was fortunate to have traveled very much (including Albania, sub-Saharan Africa, most of South America, most of Southern African countries as well. We are not half the world power that we think we are. Not too long ago a cup of espresso coffee at Zurich International airport set me back by $12.00 – ONE CUP. Friends in Johannesburg (I knew them in NYC) are showing me that Jo-burg is today a lot cleaner than NYC. Friends in Paris are cracking jokes about W. and Prince Charles in the same breath. Are we really the superpower everybody says we are? I kinda doubt it.
d) I will not (in all probability) accept any official views of the US Government until the day they disclose who exactly killed JFK.
e) In anticipation of a furious backlash I’ll remain a quiet distant skeptic. (even a backlash has to serve some purpose).

You bring up some good points, as does Dr. Trifkovic in response to your questions.

“As for swift military action when Islam attempts to expand its domain, lately I have been wondering if any heresy that oppresses and enslaves people as a matter of doctrine has claim to any land whatsoever, its history notwithstanding.”

The “heresy” may not, but the “heretics” do.

There are Muslims in the world with whom the West can be friends, friends as we in the West understand the term.

We must act and be ready to act against those Muslims who not only threaten us kuffar (infidels), but who threaten takfir (Muslims who are considered not faithful enough) as well; we do have a common enemy.

Based on your use of the word heresy, it seems you feel Islam is evil and, presumably (?), Christianity is good. Assuming that, I would like to point out that just as there are “Christians” who do evil in the name of Christianity, so are there Muslims with whom we should have no practical problem.

My concern is that when they commit crimes, Christians are going against both the actions and the teachings of their “Prophet”, whereas Muslims committing certain crimes are doing as their prophet did and as their prophet taught; thus the deck is stacked against those “heretics” who really believe that Islam is a religion of peace, and who act upon that belief.

Still, it is a fundamental tenet from the foundation of our nation that people have the right to seek their Creator in their own way; thus, we owe it to Muslims to allow them to be “heretics” without declaring war on them for their beliefs, per se.

What is left is this: the infidel world needs to monitor what Muslims say and how Muslims prepare, as we would with any other group of people, regardless of how benign that group may appear. If it appears they are preparing for war, we need to take prudent precautions. Prudent precautions may include pre-emptive strikes, a principle addressed in our Constitution. If attacked, we certainly need to be able to respond adequately, appropriately, and decisively.

Consequently, I find myself in general agreement with Dr. Trifkovic, with the following comments regarding his points:

1. We do need to protect our interests.
1a. Most emphatically we need new energy resources, for many reasons!
2. We may deal with certain elements of the Islamic world — indeed, we may need to — but we should do so with utmost caution.
3. Those immigrants who are legitimately oppressed in the Islamic world should be able to find refuge in the West, just as political refugees from communist countries did during the Cold War; Christian and other minorities come to mind here, as do women, quite frankly.
4. Agreed.
5. Agreed.

Any orderly withdrawl (and that’s only withdrawl we’re are going to make) from Iraq will take at least two years to accomplish. The only way to extracate strategically from the mess we’ve created in Iraq is a rapprochment with Iran. Just as Nixon’s to China gambit diluted and negated the damage from Vietnam, such such diplomacy will do the same in the case of Iraq. We must acknowldge the reality of the situation, that Iraq is over 60 percent Shiia and because of this and because Iran is next door, it will have a say on how Iraq is governed (although Arab nationalism may limit such a say). By arming the Sunni tribesmen of central and western Iraq, hopefully that will keep Mahdi army at bay and basically a loosely federated Iraq can exists, perhaps as a fiction but useful fiction nonetheless.

A diplomatic breakthrough with Iran basically quiets Mesopotamia and stablizies world oil markets, stablilize Lebanon and Israel by quieting Hezbollah and gives a visbile split in the Islamic world which would doom any chance of a restablished Caliphate. Plus, Shiite Islamism has never been expansionist type, at least outside of Shiite areas. Because they are a small minority of the Islamic world (10% I do believe) they are no threat to anyone and indeed, provide a counterbalance in the Middle East and Central Asia to Sunni extremism. The U.S received Iranian help to defeat the Sunni Taliban in Afghanistan and the Shiite clique in Syria helped the U.S. provided intelligence to the U.S. to hunt down terrorists. It seems to me, the biggest success the U.S>. has had in the so-called War on Terror, has been when they’ve worked with the Shiites against a common foe.

By: ChristopherBollyn

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=108923

The government and controlled media have lied to the public about 9-11 for 6 years.
Those who have discerned and exposed the lies about the “false flag” terror attacks
and the fraudulent “War on Terror” have been treated like madmen and criminals.

It’s time for this criminal nightmare to end.

Of course it’s actually much worse than that — imagine that the voices of the one or two decent doctors are drowned out by about ten thousand quack doctors, all assuring the junkie that continued heroin use will help him curb hunger pangs and hence preserve his slender, trim figure.

I don’t know. I will continue to read and pray and fight my doubts. Fear and doubt are terrible things.

Yes, those are the points you make in your book (Defeating Jihad) and in your writings. You say, “Whenever left to its own devices, Islam declined.” I have always taken your writings seriously. But I don’t know why I am having my doubts more than ever lately. I think part of the reason may be that of your list of imperatives, and in light of a world that is too often ruled by sociopaths and numbskulls on all sides, at best probably only part of the things you list would ever get implemented, and that would leave huge gaps which could after all be the death of the West and America.

Thanks.

1. Political & military disengagement from the Muslim world;
1a Development of alternative energy resources;
2. Quarantining the Muslim world (strict cordon sanitaire);
3. Immediate and total ban on immigration from the Muslim world;
4. Repatriation of all immigrants who support Jihad & Sharia;
5. Swift and devastating military response to any attempt of the Muslim world to expand its domain.

Whenever left to its own devices, Islam declined. Whenever devoid of external outlets for aggression, it focused its energies on internicine fights.

MAD is of dubious value vis-a-vis millenarian visionaries a la Ahmadinejad, but the problem is most acute for Israel which should deal with it as she deems fit.