Comments on: Alekseev: Unilateral Recognition of Kosovo’s Independence Would Be an “Historic Mistake”

By: Marisa

Marisa — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:36:50 +0000

hi i enjoyed the read

By: Dallas

Dallas — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:16:57 +0000

hi nice post, i enjoyed it

By: jack bailey

jack bailey — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:32:02 +0000

I find the Dubravka Stojanovic article rather silly as it is supposed to show that Kosovo really isn’t Serbian because policemen would not willingly serve there and because it was not IMMEDIATELY included into a Serbian democracy. (did it also appear to other readers that she argues Serbia actually was not a democracy at all, since Apis was the real master of it all behind the scenes? Also since she also believes that the Serbs were basically primitive and bloodthursty themselves, it is impossible for her to accept that the Serbs would have some sense of self esteem which made them feel that they had to act as MISSIONARIES in the new territories. Instead it is supposed to serve for her as a further proof of Serb inhumanity. Does this sound familiar? Calling the kettle black?). OK, so the NGOs is Serbia may have a role in raising the level of democratic discussion. BUt I do not believe that Mrs. Stojanovic truly means what she says because this article, the way it was written, makes only sense to someone who is not from the Balkans and who thinks that everyone that lives there is a savage. Since she lives there, obviously she does not think that. Why she writes an article that is ultimately illogical is probably just to amuse a stray reader, because either Serbia was a democracy or it was not, but both of these arguments are irrelevant as to whether Kosovo should be a part of Serbia. Serbs fought for it and now hundred years later they still don’t want to give it up even though it seemed to us for a little while that they should. Why they want it and What they mean to do with it is their business. That is why it makes little sense for some of the bloggers here who wish to top each other with historical facts and rights. It does not matter. Serbs may want it within Serbia for whatever reason that they do, that we do not fully understand and they want it pretty bad, enough to mess things up for the USA. So why should this continue to matter to US as our continuing involvement there is even more insane than our war with the Iraqis? If we can’t fix it the way we originally thought we could, some sane person should suggest that we fix it in a way that we can. This means that we should leave it the way we found it and move on to something more pressing like illegal immigration. There is obviously a lesson there.

By: Qeni

Qeni — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:01:59 +0000

Here is the (formerly) untranslated final paragraph of Dubravka Stojanović’s article:

“All this is why I am beginning to think that Dobrica Ćosić was right. Now I think that his formula that Serbia won in wars but lost in peace is correct. Only, it wasn’t because of the ‘unfairness of the Great powers’ as he understood it, but because it couldn’t attach to itself ‘what it had gained at war’ through a clever, reasoned and civilized policy. It hasn’t been able to ‘adopt’ what it had ‘conquered’.”

By: Pelivan

Pelivan — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:41:18 +0000

Hee hee, funny to see “Iliya Pavlovich” mention the name “Uroševac” as evidence that Kosovo is Serb. That name was adopted in the 1930s instead of “Ferizović” — the Serb mirror-name of “Ferizaj”, to “serbify” the region.

All the more funny since, as Professor Ducellier tells us above, the other Slavic names in Kosovo have a Bulgarian, not a Serb origin.

By: Qeni

Qeni — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:27:40 +0000

Now for the Serb version:
http://www.helsinki.org.yu/doc/pubs/charter/srp/povelja-jan-feb.pdf
KRAJ NACIONALNE AROGANCIJE
Dubravka Stojanović, “Helsinška povelja”, januar – februar 2007.

By: Qeni

Qeni — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:25:53 +0000

The whole of Dubravka Stojanović’s article in “Helsinška povelja”:
http://www.bosnia.org.uk/bosrep/report_format.cfm?articleid=3185&reportid=173
KOSOVO-THE ULTIMATE MYTH
by Dubravka Stojanović, Translated from “Helsinška povelja” 103-4, January-February 2007

By: Qeni

Qeni — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:07:59 +0000

Here is the original quotation where Dobrica Ćosić, the “father of the Serb nation”, a former President of the so-called “Federal Republic of Yugoslavia”, and a catastrophic liar himself, describes mendacity as an “aspect of patriotism” among the Serbs: it’s in page 135 of the first volume of “Divisions” (Deobe I).

“Лажемо да би смо обманули себе, да утешимо другог; лажемо из самилости, да нас није страх, да охрабримо, да сакријемо своју и тудју беду, лажемо због поштења. Лажемо због слободе.
“Лаж је вид нашег патриотизма и потврда наше уродјене интелигенције. Лажемо стваралацки, маштовито, инвентивно.”
(Деобе I, стр.135)

By: Iliya Pavlovich

Iliya Pavlovich — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:21:36 +0000

What kind of Hundens are these? Teufel Hunden or some milder kind?

With this new nebulosity that resolution 1244 was made between the Nazi NATO and (former) Yugoslavia that no longer esists – how about we put that idea to a test and see how right you are and you must believe in what you’re saying so let’s do the following excercize. All the moneys that the Former Yuglavia ownED – today’s Serbia SHOULD NOT PAY, BUT WE CAN FREELY ATTACH ALL THOSE OBLIGATIONS TO YOUR OWN BAK ACCOUNT. You should feel pretty safe since that country no longer exists and nobody in their right mind will pursue the debts of a non-existing country – right? Equally the newly formed countries never cary on with any legacy of the prior entities they were based on (Byzantine Empire had nothing to do with the Roman cultuture, and the theater, sculpture, architecture of Rome had nothing to do with the Hellenic period it preceeded. Are there any more idiotic arguments here cloaked in civility or do we really have such poor thinkers who can’t put the 2 and 2 together?

By: Hunden

Hunden — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:14:39 +0000

I am amazed at the knowledge and accuracy of the Albanians who have posted here.
I am, on the other hand, not surprised at all by the carelessness withy which the Serbs display their racism towars the Albanians.
Partick Moore, an expert journalist at Radio Free Europe, has an interesting interpretation of the US posotion on Kosovo. To be sure, unilateral recognition is the standard procedure in international law, and there is no need for the UN Security Council, since Resolution 1244 applied to the “Federal Republic of Yugoslavia” and that republic disappeared more than a year ago.
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http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/07/85b2d7fb-5cbb-4607-8f10-5b28920d5a15.html
KOSOVO: [PATRICK MOORE] SAYS AHTISAARI PLAN STILL RELEVANT
RFE/RL Balkan Report, August 8, 2007, Vol. 11, No. 8