Kosovo Blowback Reaches America
by Srdja Trifkovic
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The story: four Albanian Muslims from Kosovo, plus a Turk and a Jordanian, are arrested for conspiring to attack Fort Dix, a military base in New Jersey, with AK47s and “to kill as many soldiers as possible” (U.S. Attorney’s Office).
The Mainstream Media spin: “Four of them were born in the former Yugoslavia” (The New York Times); “One of the suspects was born in Jordan, another in Turkey… [t]he rest are believed to be from the former Yugoslavia” (CNN); “Four of the men were born in the former Yugoslavia, one in Jordan and one in Turkey” (MSNBC); “One of the suspects was born in Turkey and four in the former Yugoslavia” (AP), und so weiter…
The names of the four “Yugoslavs” are Dritan Duka, Eljvir Duka, Shain Duka (three brothers, all of them in the United States illegally), and Agron Abdullahu. Those are Albanian names, of course, but not one in a hundred Americans knows that. In fact, grasping that they are Albanians and knowing that “ethnic Albanian” plus “Muslim from the former Yugoslavia” equals “Kosovo,” is the privilege of experts. It is but one of many Balkan equations that mainstream media editors are determined to keep hidden from their consumers. That there is nothing in the federal complaint about the “Yugoslav” suspects’ origins is almost certainly the result of political interference.
White House spokesman Tony Snow was quick to assure us there is “no direct evidence” that the men arrested in the Fort Dix plot have ties to international terrorism. His meta-message is clear: The Administration knows it cannot keep the Albanian identity of four “Yugoslav” suspects concealed for ever, but it wants to pre-empt any suspicion that an independent KosovA would be a black hole of jihad-terrorism in the heart of Europe. Hastily denying the group’s link to al-Qaeda and other global networks is a political necessity for the proponents of Kosovo’s independence, not necessarily the reality.
Having been assured ad nauseam over the years by successive U.S. administrations that Kosovo’s Albanians are not really serious about their Islam, that even when they desecrate Christian churches and joyously rip crosses from their cupolas they do it for nationalist rather than jihadist reasons, the powers-that-be are doing their utmost to ensure that the public remains anesthetized. Asking when and how Albanian “secularists” became Islamic radicals is a no-no. Being so audacious as to wonder what this transformation bodes for a new, independent Muslim state in the heart of Europe is simply not on. Asking questions about major KLA figures’ documented links to jihad terrorism (including to Osama bin Laden personally) is polizeilich verboten. In the meantime, cadres, cash and ordnance linked to jihadist outrages all over Europe have been traced back to Kosovo, including the bombings in Madrid (March 2004) and London (July 2005), and a rocket attack on the U.S. embassy in Athens last year.
In New Jersey in May 2007, Kosovo blowback has finally reached America.
It is now essential to unmask the web of lies and distortions that has guided U.S. policy in the Balkans for years. The first step is to demand an explanation why and how Muslim Albanian terrorists from Kosovo were able to plan an operation here in the U.S. Why indeed: didn’t the U.S. military fight the Serbs for 78 days in 1999 so that they could have their ethnically clrean, Serbenfrei statelet? As a Washingtonian insider points out,
For almost a decade the U.S. government (or more precisely a handful of State Department bureaucrats and a few Congressmen) have placed the U.S. firmly on the side of the KLA and have helped created a haven for their operations. Even worse, KLA supporters in the United States have operated with virtual impunity, collecting money and weapons to support KLA operations not only in Kosovo, but in neighboring areas of southern Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, and northern Greece.
He reminds us that in 2004 Dutch television broadcast a documentary of Kosovo Albanian Muslims legally buying weapons in the U.S. and shipping them to Kosovo is support of their “liberation war” in violation of numerous U.S. laws, including the Neutrality Act: “The documentary then showed the same Albanians at a fundraiser in New York writing hefty checks to American politicians of both parties. There is no public indication that any action was taken by federal or state law enforcement agencies.”
But like the Bourbons of yore, KosovA enthusiasts inside the Beltway learn nothing and forget nothing. At last Tuesday’s open hearing of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, titled “The Outlook for the Independence of Kosova” (sic!), the Committee’s Chairman, Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA), declared urbi et orbi:
“Just a reminder to the predominantly Muslim-led governments in this world that here is yet another example that the United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe. This should be noted by both responsible leaders of Islamic governments, such as Indonesia, and also for jihadists of all color and hue. [sic!] The United States’ principles are universal, and in this instance, the United States stands foursquare for the creation of an overwhelmingly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe.”
On that same occasion Ms. Rice’s No. 2, Under Secretary for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns, reiterated the U.S. position that immediate independence without standards or compromise is a must lest the Albanians get nasty: “the prospects for violence would be greater if we waited, because 92 to 94 percent of the people who now live in Kosovo are Albanian Muslims. They have been waiting a long, long time.”
Albanian Muslims, mind. Not Albanians, not “Kosovars,” not “Yugoslavs.” As Julia Gorin pointed out, Mr. Burns also didn’t miss the opportunity to invoke the usual Nazi imagery in reference to the Serbs, while praising the Kosovo prime minister Agim Ceku, an indicted Serb-slaughterer, as “impressive” and “worthy.” That’s the broad picture, dear reader, and a bunch of overexcitable, non-al-Qaeda-connected “Yugoslavs” from New Jersey will not be allowed to disturb it.
And yes, Mr. Lantos’s “jihadists of all color and hue” are taking note.
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1 Comment by Robert on 8 May 2007:
Dear Mr. Trifkovic,
If , as Mr. Lantos says, “The United States’ principles are universal, and in this instance, the United States stands foursquare for the creation of an overwhelmingly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe.”
Then why would he favor attacks on Muslims in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. When,
” Lantos used his Congressional Human Rights Caucus to host a well-spoken young Kuwaiti woman identified only as “Nurse Nayirah”, who told of horrific abuses by Iraqi soldiers, including the killing of Kuwaiti babies by taking them out of their incubators and leaving them to die on the cold floor of the hospital. These alleged atrocities figured prominently in the rhetoric at the time about Iraqi abuses in Kuwait. This story later proved to be a complete fabrication. “Nurse Nariyah” was, in fact the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States, and had been coached on this story by the PR firm of Hill & Knowlton, who were paid $14 million by representatives of the Government of Kuwait to create a PR campaign to generate U.S. support for an invasion. Hill & Knowlton also provided free office space to the Congressional Human Rights Foundation (distinct from the similarly named caucus), of which Lantos was co-chair at the time.[11][12]”
Surely our leaders wouldn’t deceive us about matters concerning ” National Security ? “
2 Pingback by Republican Riot » Balkan-Islamic Gratitude: Fort Dix and “Our Friends the Albanians” on 8 May 2007:
[...] Jatras also points out that “as usual, the FBI is focusing on the worm’s-eye view of who did what, rather than the big picture of how these creeps got entrenched in the US through our pro-KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) policy [which] helped create a haven for their operations. Even worse, KLA supporters in the United States have operated with virtual impunity, collecting money and weapons to support KLA operations not only in Kosovo, but in neighboring areas of southern Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, and northern Greece.” [...]
3 Pingback by Political Mavens » Balkan-Islamic Gratitude: Fort Dix and Our Friends the Albanians on 8 May 2007:
[...] Jatras also points out that “as usual, the FBI is focusing on the worm’s-eye view of who did what, rather than the big picture of how these creeps got entrenched in the US through our pro-KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) policy [which] helped create a haven for their operations. Even worse, KLA supporters in the United States have operated with virtual impunity, collecting money and weapons to support KLA operations not only in Kosovo, but in neighboring areas of southern Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, and northern Greece.” [...]
4 Pingback by Eunomia · Fruits Of Open Borders And Empire on 8 May 2007:
[...] Tuesday, May 8th, 2007 in politics, foreign policy by Daniel Larison In fact, grasping that they are Albanians and knowing that “ethnic Albanian” plus “Muslim from the former Yugoslavia” equals “Kosovo,” is the privilege of experts. It is but one of many Balkan equations that mainstream media editors are determined to keep hidden from their consumers. That there is nothing in the federal complaint about the “Yugoslav” suspects’ origins is almost certainly the result of political interference. ~Srdja Trifkovic [...]
5 Comment by mark on 8 May 2007:
I doubt the Serbs would want to see a “Greater Albania,” but is this worse than an independent Kosovo that is largely, if not totally, Muslim?
6 Comment by Nicholas G.P. Moses on 8 May 2007:
“I doubt the Serbs would want to see a “Greater Albania,” but is this worse than an independent Kosovo that is largely, if not totally, Muslim?”
I was under the impression that Kosovo was infrastructurally and resourcefully unfit for long-term survival as an independent nation.
7 Comment by Alexander on 9 May 2007:
Mr. Trifkovic has delivered a sober appraisal of this deeply
frustrating political game our country insists on getting
involved in. I whole heartedly agree with the author that
the press’s reluctance/ignorance to identify the thugs for
who they really are, speaks to a darker agenda which
our government excels in; the proverbial double standard. We forever seem to support the underdog
in any regional conflict only to have the underdog bite us
in the behind when political winds shift. Not so long ago
we supported an underdog in Afghanistan while the Red
Army occupied that country – that was Bin Laden. Now
we want to be Joe-Nation-Builder again, this time in the
heart of Europe. If Kosovo does indeed become a new
nation, the eventual political wind from that exercise, will come at us like a hurricane.
8 Comment by David Rolfe on 9 May 2007:
“One of the suspects was born in Jordan, another in Turkey… [t]he rest are believed to be from the former Yugoslavia”
For reasons of consistency, shouldn’t that read “One of the suspects was born in the former Palestine Trans-Jordan, another in the former Byzantium.. the rest are believed to be from the former Yugoslavia”.
If nothing else, that kind of reporting would help to instill a sense of history in consumers of ‘news’.
9 Trackback by Byzantine Sacred Art Blog on 9 May 2007:
Kosovo Albanian Jihadists Plot to Kill U.S. Servicemen in New Jersey…
Fort Dix Army base, target of a terror plot by four Kosovo Albanians, a Jordanian and a Turk. Over 4,000 Kosovo Albanians from Serbian province were sheltered here during 1999 U.S.-led NATO bombardment of Serbia. Kosovo Albanians in States: Kill……
10 Comment by Bill Wilder on 9 May 2007:
Juan Cole takes the cake on reviewing this incident, blaming this attack and all Kosovar terrorism, on Milosevic! http://www.juancole.com/2007/05/ft.html#comments. I’ll bet that analysis tops the worst of what Dr. Trifkovic has seen.
Admittedly, I think Cole provides useful insights on the current ME situation, but his Islamophilia is simply boundless and his worldview is hopelessly compromised by his leftist self-loathing. That leftist worldview has been the enabling factor in the Muslim-oriented US policy in the Balkans.
11 Trackback by jackalope on 9 May 2007:
Every Once in a While We Glimpse Reallity…
Via Jihad Watch we read this article on the real meaning of the Fort Dix conspiracy. …
12 Comment by Bill Wilder on 9 May 2007:
Four more arrests in Britain in their 05 Subway attacks
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Britain-Terror-Arrests.html?hp
13 Comment by mark on 9 May 2007:
@Nicholas G.P. Moses
If that is correct, Kosovo for sure will become a feeding ground for anything radical and extremist (even more so as is currently the case). I think the Kosovan extremism will be much less if they become part of Albania, because Albania itselft is largely atheist.
14 Comment by Big M on 9 May 2007:
How long are people in this country, and Britain, going to fall for these cons? The federal government would have you believe that every person in a position of responsibility in every federal defense and intelligence agency in this country couldn’t find their own a** with both hands for two hours on 9/11 (but they were all promoted and received citations and other awards — sounds more like being recognized for a job well done, in my opinion), but every time you turn around, they’re claiming to have busted a “terror” ring? Exactly how stupid are Americans and Brits, anyway?
Al Qaeda is the wetdream brainchild of the CIA/Mossad/MI6. They get their local dupes all hot and bothered about something, and then they give them materials to carry out their project. (Remember those “terrorists” in Miami and Chicago? Remember the “terrorists” that carried out the first attack on the WTC back in 1993?) These poor suckers don’t know much of anything except that they’ve been made angry. They start to carry out their plans, and then, when they’re around a third of the way through, the authorities arrest them, and then some government or other solemnly proclaims to the world that they’ve thwarted another terrorist attack.
Can you guess why they need these people to be imprisoned in foreign countries, with no public access to them, and no access to attorneys, and only kangaroo courts, if anything? Because they can’t have these people publicly spilling the beans, and exposing the fact that the people that arrested them were in cahoots with the people that supplied them, or that they were one and the same!
And, of course, the government then uses their “bust” to claim how effective their anti-terror measures are, and to assure people with questions that their civil liberties still exist, but they just need to be kept in the closet forever, so that the government can deal with “terrorists.”
Do you know that in five and a half years, the Bush administration really only has obtained two convictions over 9/11 to show for all of its blustering about bringing the “terrorists” to justice? The vast majority of the people arrested that have been lucky enough to have their cases heard have either had all of the charges thrown out, or they have been convicted of minor charges. Exactly two people, last I heard, have been convicted of any direct complicity in 9/11. One, a Spanish conviction of a minor figure in the “conspiracy,” and an American conviction of Moussaoui, with no trial, no jury, and zero credibility.
I must ask again — exactly how stupid are Americans and Brits?
15 Comment by David Rolfe on 9 May 2007:
“I think the Kosovan extremism will be much less if they become part of Albania, because Albania itselft is largely atheist.”
It doesn’t follow, mark. The UK is largely irreligious, yet we have our home-grown jihadists.
16 Pingback by Thoughts Of A Conservative Christian Balkan Muslim Gratitude « on 9 May 2007:
[...] Therefore, says Chronicles Magazine foreign editor Trifkovic, “Hastily denying the group’s link to al-Qaeda and other global networks is a political necessity for the proponents of Kosovo’s independence, not necessarily the reality.” (Trifkovic can be reached for interviews at Trifkovic@netzero.net, and Jatras at JJatras@ssd.com.) [...]
17 Comment by Sean Scallon on 9 May 2007:
And who says the media doesn’t have “agendas”? Next week they’ll be calling them just plain old Europeans.
18 Comment by Slobodan Ninkovic on 9 May 2007:
Again, an event that makes you Dr Trifkovich happy. Bad Albanians, bad Muslims, poor Serbs.
In an imaginary war between Christianity and Islam you found one more excuse for cleaning up the “free societies” on non-Christian garbage.
Readers of this column, please, do not forget that this well-spoken British educated historian worked for Milosevic created chauvinistic state Republika Srpska. We from Balkans learned what damage this kind of people is able to do (well spoken educated people that support mass paranoia makers”
Look to the simple facts in this story. Four non-educated not adjusted men are planing to attack host country. They are not part of an organization and they did note have equipment before were offered by FBI informant.
Clash of civilization?
19 Comment by David Rolfe on 9 May 2007:
“Four non-educated not adjusted men are planing to attack host country. They are not part of an organization….. ”
That’s what was said about the London bombers – except that there were eight of them. We were asked to believe that a group of individuals carried out the bombings without any back-up and without telling a soul beforehand. That turned out to be untrue. (What a surprise!). Three people were arrested in March (two of them were about to bolt to Pakistan), and there were four more arrests today.
20 Comment by mark on 9 May 2007:
@David Rolfe
But Kosovans will not see themselves as immigrants when part of Albania. That is a big difference with say a 2nd generation Pakistani who has to integrate into British society, and is still a “foreigner.”
I mentioned atheism, because that will be a counterforce to Islam in Albania. There is no counterforce to Islam when Kosovo becomes independent.
21 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 9 May 2007:
Nobody in his right mind can be “happy” about this unfolding of the true face of Islam. But we should be glad that it was uncovered before lives were lost. If the media wishes to call this a sinking of the Bismarck – so be it. It’s their own funeral to keep the deception going for this long. Same way Paris was in flames, W 44th Street in NYC (home of the NYT) can equally be in flames for some other yet unspoken Jihadist goal. We never doubted that Islam would continue to undermine America – from within America.
The only questions was WHEN the American media would be forced to concede the ugly fact that Albanian Muslims (Kosovo or elsewhere) follow the same Jihadist doctrine. The structure (as established very cleverly by OBL) is such that every cell can function independently as long as it targets “infidels”. If you are a Jew or a Christian you are a target whether you like it or not. The media has done a supreme job hiding an awful lot of embarrassing moves by the prior administration (since, in my view, some portion of America needs to pander to Islam, if for no other reason, just to offset the Iran/Iraq nightmare). This way there is the “plausible deniability” – made famous in the times of Oliver North. If you can’t be caught with your hand in the cookie jar – you’re probably innocent. Hence no mention of Clinton’s failed perception of the world – who’d dare mention Clinton now and risk the wrath of Mr. Hillary Clinton who would use this as a good launching pad to plow into Giuliani et all. The issues are far too complex, but the sad fact remains that Muslims will follow Jihadist roadmap, here, there and everywhere. If the Germans fail to see how Munich is getting to be Istambulized, they will once it becomes too late. Let’s hope that America will have a little more sense, and call a spade – a spade. There is no cure for Jihad. All the weapons of the world can not eradicate what has been ingrained within the Muslim culture for the last 13 centuries. No nation under Islam has ever prospered. Just look at Somalia, Mogadishu, the rest of the sub-Saharan Africa – an absolute disaster. Kosovo is far too close to the heart of Europe. Being equally close to Bosnia which has already been working on expulsion of some 300+ mujahedins who married the local Bosnian women – Kosovo’s proximity presents a far greater danger. It is wrong to believe that Albanians are atheists – they were atheists during their pro-Mao period, but Islam was always a strong undercurrent in Albania proper while the Christian parts were proclaimed atheistic – I saw much of it first hand. Let’s not kid ourselves that Albania is atheist – there are no churches but there ARE MOSQUES. That is not atheist enough in my view.
22 Comment by jeff bailey on 9 May 2007:
Well Dr Trifkovic, this is the biggest break you could have hoped for. Rush Limbaugh is talking about this all day long and he is citing Darko Trifunovic as a source, but not the Chronicles. This is why one shouldn’t be so negative about the administration policies and their supporters, because they are willing to learn if they feel that you are not apriori against them. That is my experience with them and what I have been trying to convey here with the writebacks all along. If I were you I would call Limbaugh and give him the real lowdown as is he is bound to run with it on account on how much he cannot stand the Clintons. I am sure Pat Buchanan would be happy to give you a good reference. There is no time to waste. This is it, the big break.
23 Comment by Boba on 9 May 2007:
Re: jeff bailey –
Big mistake by Rush Limbaugh not to contact Dr. Trifkovic! It shows that Limbaugh is either ignorant of Trifkovic’s expertize on the Balkans and Islam or that he simply opted for a source of a lesser quality. That does not diminish the fact that Dr. Trifkovic is an excellent analyst, worthy of advising Presidents – and readers around the world. I would say – listen to and read Trifkovic’s books and learn!
LISTEN AUDIOfile
http://www.serbianna.com/
Who is shielding Muslim Albanian identity of Fort Dix terrorists?
Rockford Institute expert on Balkan Islam explains why the US government avoids making public the identity of four Kosovo Albanian Muslims?
Also: http://www.serbianna.com/columns/borojevic/054.shtml
24 Comment by Spectacles on 10 May 2007:
I enjoy “Mark’s” allusions to a Greater Albania although in all good sense he is barking up the wrong tree with that little “gem”.
25 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 10 May 2007:
Let’s start off simple for all the visitors from other planets who came and gave us their 2 cents in regards to this article:
1. Was it not Jesus Christ who was accused, sentenced and crucified only on account of his prophesies and desire to help his fellow man?
Don’t bother answering – I’ll help you. Yes it was.
Was it not Dr. Trifkovic in his numerous articles for YEARS, not hours, days or weeks but YEARS, who has been showing us the inner workings of Islam?
Yes it was.
Was there not a brilliantly simple article by Mr. Scott Richert about “Jihad in Rockford” titled “lone wolf – or some theory close to it” where Mr. Richert shows that a wolf is a wolf by any other name and even if alone – the pack is not too far behind.
Yes it was.
In 1991, I went to the Wiesenthal Institute in Wien and asked point blank: “Wiviel Juden war in Albanien zwischen 1924 und 1939. The answer was: Ungefer 360 familien. My next question was: Wiviel Juden sind dah in Albanien heute? The answer was “six and thirty personen (36) – so much for Albanian atheism.
Sure they are all atheists when it comes to other religions but not to Islam. According to the CIA over 80% conservatively.
As far as this nuhk’ular scientist who claims that “Mr. Trifkovic must be happy” – I’d like to know what system of happiness is s/he using to determine somebody else’s happiness with such accuracy (Ptolomeic system has been long gone, and disposed of).
On the other hand the various Steven Schwartzes, various Suleymans, even the bicyclist (Velo) with all their pro-Muslim, pro-Albanian, pro-Arnautic views are nowhere to be seen. Joe diGuardi from the Bronx mafia pizza dollars? WHY?
Not convenient? Not the right time? Islam has showed us another face – a true face? All of the above?
Yes, all of the above.
I can see how CAIR would influence the distribution of the Sword of the Prophet from various public forums, I can even understang Suleyman and Velo, but who are all these other unknown names? These are not new topics – these have been in the public eye even in Duluth – what planet do you people live on?
Jihad is a real danger to real persons who are really non-Muslim. It’s that simple. Even a desperate act of a lone assassin is not necessarily “lone in principle” – as the Holly Qu’ran spells it out clearly – you must kill the infidels.
Would I make a pact with Satan himself to get rid of Islam?
Dr. Faustus did for Helen of Troy, I’d do it for getting the world rid of Islam.
Serbia has been dealt a lousy hand in this poker game and get’s used for spare change. Serbia is not the topic here, so dear Mr. Suleyman (whatever other name you used here) try to show us a little intelligence – at least fool us with thinking that you may possibly have some. In spite of the fact that I am Serbian born, I view the facts and proof. Today’s Interpol is dominated by Albanians in the following (approximate) numbers:
Italy – 85% wanted criminals are Albanians
Greece – 92% Albanian
Switzerland – 75% Albanian
Sweden – 72% Albanian
U.K. – 60% + Albanian
Even Ireland ranks high, but I lost the data.
Und so weiter, und so weiter.
There is no place for “bleeding heart liberals” anywhere within these pages. If you’re not going to see what is in front of you, turn the page in the Bible where it says: “Thou shalt not cast pearls in front of swine” – it’s that simple.
Albanians – atheists?
Certainly, as long as it is not Islam. Jews were cut down from some 1,000 to 1,200 to 36. Christian population is fleeing, or has fled. Buddhism is not really something they ever heard of. What does that leave us?
Alah?
Yes, you guessed it – Allah, along with Dar al Harb and Dar al Islam – translated into present Muslims and future Muslims. I am amazed that there is even a 10 year old child (make that a 10 year old retarded child) who is unaware of the Muslim mandate to convert (or kill) the “infidels” – kafiri – us – you and me.
Which true Christian can condone death? NONE. Yet Islam does – and practices it.
Is Dr. Trifkovic to blame for being right on target for over 10 years in espousing his profoundly clever views on Islam?
Hell, no.
I admit, my tenor was “ little intolerant”, only because I am convinced that the various Roberts, Toms, Dick and Harry are nobody else but Suleyman Schwartz or Velo or some other previously discredited turbanista. No sane person with an ounce of decency could post such garbage as I have seen it here, after such clear set of self-evident Jihadist presence.
26 Comment by Bill Wilder on 10 May 2007:
It didn’t take a week for the media to switch to “Europeans” as Mr. Scallon predicted. From today’s Washington Post
“Most of the men arrested Tuesday were European rather than Middle Eastern. They hail from one of the most pro-American and secular parts of the Muslim world — the ethnic Albanian regions of Macedonia, where gratitude for U.S. assistance in Kosovo during the 1990s still runs high.”
There you go. They like us so much they want to kill us. Sound like Iraqis.
27 Comment by xenia on 10 May 2007:
The media is complicit. My experience in trying to get a pro-Serbian talk listed in the local public radio community event board yielded one assurance: people in the field delete items that they think will cause the public begin to question all the propaganda that has been handed to them. I had to go in and histrionically talk to the Program Director to get an interview with a local Serbian activist. To his credit, he was patient with me. When I came home to re-enter the information, I did in fact remember that I had previously entered it; because previously, in this case I had to add a venue-I was surprised that I had to re-add the venue as well.
There are operatives in the media erasing balanced news from ever getting to those journalists who might actually want to honour their profession.
28 Pingback by Kosovo Blowback Reaches America « tmq2 on 10 May 2007:
[...] The Mainstream Media spin: “Four of them were born in the former Yugoslavia” (The New York Times); “One of the suspects was born in Jordan, another in Turkey… [t]he rest are believed to be from the former Yugoslavia” (CNN); “Four of the men were born in the former Yugoslavia, one in Jordan and one in Turkey” (MSNBC); “One of the suspects was born in Turkey and four in the former Yugoslavia” (AP), und so weiter [and so on]… }} more… [...]
29 Comment by Bill Wilder on 10 May 2007:
Today’s NY Times article with relatives contains a number who disavow serious religious affiliation in the family, with the Turk’s father stating that his son became militant leading to a rupture in their relationship. Who knows? It’s all easy to say now.
Of course, the voice of the NGO left is hardly neutral on the matter:
“Fred Abrahams of Human Rights Watch said, “Albanians on the whole are so very over-the-top pro-American that this news came as a shock.”
30 Comment by liria on 10 May 2007:
albanians are not terrorist and this you now sir
31 Comment by liria on 10 May 2007:
you are trying to say that all people in kosova are muslim but is not true, there are a lot of catolics ansd i am one of them .
32 Comment by Tom on 10 May 2007:
Liria, you are a catolic? Don’t you mean catholic? I think you’re a muslim in disguise trying to infiltrate our discussion board. Begone you beggar!
33 Comment by Serb T. on 10 May 2007:
Kosovo Albanians are new teflon people of the world. Nothing sticks to them.
34 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 10 May 2007:
The value and contribution Dr. Trifkovic has made remains priceless. For everything else there is Master Card. Mr. Richert, Dr. Fleming, Mr. Jatras have all contributed substantially to identifying the many dangers of Islam. Not only has Dr. Trifkovic demonstrated a profound knowledge of islam, but he managed to use that knowledge with such surgical accuracy that he is now able to predict (or foretell) many of the events that are coming to us from the Dar al Islam.
Dr. Trifkovic also devoted a considerable effort to the issues of immigration which this “Fort Dix incident” clearly documents. Take a little bit of a flexible standards, lack of vision (stupidity) towards islam, and the result is KABOOOOOM. Some American (British, Spanish, Dutch, Danish) person is blown to kingdom come. There is not one single element missing from Dr. Trifkovic’s article. It stands on its own merits – it’s coherent, non-contradictory, logical, accurate and above all truthful.
Look at this sad Suleyman Ninkovic, with nothing to say about the essence of an otherwise flawless analysis, it accuses Dr. Trifkovic of being (somehow) instrumental during the Milosevic’s reign, Republika Sprska formation etc.
Is that the best you have to say in regards to Muslim Albanians trying to blow up an American military base? Where do you see the connecting points?
I don’t know it for a fact but Dr. Trifkovic must have eaten one hard boiled egg sometime in his life – therefore he’s guilty of having destroyed a chicken embryo? – That’s the sense made by Pelumbista, Ilirista, Turbanista, Suleyman and other assorted apparitions of Jihadism which must be destroyed. One Albanian Catholic does not make good for the destruction and killings of thousands of people, hundreds of churches, a genocidal attitude towards both Jews and Christians in the region. This endemic attitude of the Death cult has always been present in Muslim teachings and now we see it first hand (again).
Aside from the present Muslim crime waves, for those who are not so intimately familiar with the history of the Balkans, I ask that you go to this site TOWER OF SKULLS (http://www.bannerofliberty.com/Serbs,BosniaKosovo/3-20-2006.1.html) where you will see a permanent signature of Muslim rule over Christians in the town of Nis – (Naisus – in Roman days, and the birth town of Constantine the first Roman emperor who accepted Christianity, founded city of Constaninopolis – later bastardized into Istanbul). But that aside Albanians (as much as other turbanistas are quite decent people).
Here are the “good Albanians” who are so good that Interpol wants to see them (from the Swiss to 20 most wanted): MORINA Drilon, REXHEPAJ Nazif, THERQAJ Ardian, GECAJ Ded, Spahiu Leonard, Hajredini Gentjan, MALAJ Arlind, LATIFI Lulzim, GURGUROVCI Ibrahim, ZYMERI Rrahim, AMETAJ Sabit, FRROKU Lek
If that is not enough try Austria’s most wanted at: http://www.bmi.gv.at/kriminalpolizei/
35 Comment by 1389 on 10 May 2007:
Thanks for the article, Srdja! You knocked it out of the park, as usual. I linked to your article from my blog; here’s the URL:
http://moblog1389.blogspot.com/2007/05/who-are-fort-dix-six.html
36 Comment by Nicholas G.P. Moses on 10 May 2007:
“There are operatives in the media erasing balanced news from ever getting to those journalists who might actually want to honour their profession.”
I respect yourself and other honest journalists, but as a non-professional, I have to give my opinion that journalism, at least in this country and in the last hundred and fifty years, has never been an “honorable” profession, at least for mainstream publications. Obviously it is made worse by the fact that, as “generally accepted views” have become increasingly peculiar and even immoral, honest and thorough journalism has been increasingly relegated to niche or fringe publications. Even so, my brief tenure in the college of communications imparted to me a sense that the history of journalism was by and large so replete with sensationalism and propaganda that that can fairly be considered the general spirit of the profession as a whole.
37 Comment by Mediawatcher on 10 May 2007:
When Islamic Al-Taqiyya falls on the fertile ground of liberal propensity for lying and leftist self- loathing the result are media reports of “4 Europeans” and sanitized version of events.
Liberals and Leftists are useful idiots for Islamofascists. The other kind of idiots are more troubling.
The current Administration believes that Albanian Islamofascists can be used for Administration’s objectives. In reality, it is the other way around.
America’s siding with Albanian Islamofascists is perceived among Muslims as America’s weakness. Muslims have their own set of values. Not understanding this value system is fatal. Anything can be made to work for a while, even the wooden stove. But the end result is predictive.
False label of Islam (meaning “submission”) as “Religion of Peace” was the first sign of this grave miscalculation.
38 Comment by Leslie White on 11 May 2007:
We were fooled by Clinton & Co., the Serbs were the villains, the “poor” Kosovars (Albanian Moslems) were the victims. We can be grateful that since then we have learned that a Moslem is a Moslem no matter whether “Kosovar,” Albanian, Arab, or Pakistani, and that the Islamic striving for world conquest infects every one of them.
39 Comment by Slobodan Ninkovic on 11 May 2007:
Mr. Pavlovich do you really think that is not possible to be Serb and not to be chauvinist. Or if your not hate Muslims you are Suleyman.
Srdja Trifkovic was Republika Srpska spokesman, ask him. Off course he is not representing them now he has greater ideas.
“For a Christian the real task is to help our fellow humans who are trapped in Islam and to help them become free.”
Islam and the West: The threat, the defense. Srdja Trifkovic interview with Al Kresta on Ave Maria Radio – chronicles (magazine). 14 October 2004
What this means? Who is supposed to go into this war? Do you have someone of your own blood to send him in the crusade?
By the way, Trifkovic in his stories about Kosovo always forgets that Milosevic did for KLA same service that Bush did to Al Qaeda in Iraq. Taking of Albanian minority rights and shutting down provincial autonomy he pushed silent majority into resistance.
40 Comment by Mickey Droney on 11 May 2007:
Attention paleos: Please do not let your (well-deserved) dislike of neo-cons and their plots blind you to the evils of Islam. Islam in its modern incarnation is almost entirely evil and needs to be vanquished. Just because Bill Kristol and David Frum see Islam as evil, does not mean that it is good and should be tolerated. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
41 Comment by C Bowen on 11 May 2007:
Mickey,
I will take your post in good faith: you are most confused.
Bill Kristol supports Islamic forces in Chechnya just as he did in Kosovo/Serbia.
David Frum thinks the mere exportation of ‘democracy’ to the Arab world will solve that problem and is a bit silent on the question of Islamic immigration into our fair lands.
No, Islam does not need to be ‘vanquished’, just “encouraged” home and left alone, meaning an end to the colonial project.
42 Comment by Mickey Droney on 11 May 2007:
Not, at all, confused. In fact, you make my point even better. I have heard Kristol argue both sides of that issue, which certainly is tricky when you are trying not to endorse Islamic terrorists on one hand or communist butchers on the other. But reducing the scope of the argument to Chechnya and Kosovo/Serbia is a naive mistake. Radical Islam is a world-wide problem. In trying to muddy the argument with nuances about certain types of Islam you are not seeing the forest for trees. All over the globe, radical Muslims are at war with their neighbors or even at war with other groups (and other sects of Islam) within their own countries.
There is no greater mistake than to think that you can push a problem like Islam accross the globe and hope that it goes away. Besides that, if we can’t even rid our country of “illegal” Mexicans and other immigrants, how can we “encourage” Muslims, many of whom are already “legal” citizens, to leave? Good luck with that.
Why do so many of you think that if we leave Muslims alone, that they will leave us alone? The history of world is the story of C-O-N-Q-U-E-S-T. If everyone minded their own business, kept to themselves, and stayed in their place of birth, how did white, Christian Europeans end up here?
43 Comment by G.S. on 11 May 2007:
Mr. Droney,
“In trying to muddy the argument with nuances about certain types of Islam you are not seeing the forest for trees.”
Although you are correct about our disinclination for overseas interventions, I do think you are mistaken regarding how paleos view Islam.
Nobody here is spouting the picture of democracy-loving “good Muslims” vs. Islamofascist “bad Muslims”. To the contrary, that is the *neoconservative* position.
The overwhelming majority of paleos regard Islam qua Islam as (at best) a fundamentally-problematic ideology or (at worst) a satanic movement.
I believe Mr. Bowen’s point revolves around the fact that most prominent neocons regard Muslims in the Balkans as allies & freedom-fighters — as “good Muslims”.
Put another way, you were mistaken in your first post: Bill Kristol and David Frum DO NOT regard Islam per se as evil.
Hence our antipathy toward neoconservativism is partly rooted in their refusal to recognize Islam qua Islam as a problem.
I’m curious whether you would argue that intervention in the Balkans really was a good idea after all — albeit intervening *against* K.L.A. forces rather than for them?
A la General Mackenzie’s article, “We Bombed The Wrong Side In Kosovo”?
44 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 11 May 2007:
Sorry Suleyman Ninkovic, I have seen too many examples of various Pellumbistas, Turbanistas, Veloistas and similar Islam propagandists trying to inject confusion – exactly the way you tried and exactly as you failed. Dr. Trifkovic has provided a flawless view of an awkward situation where the media plays along with some “darker powers” and tries to avoid the key words of truth. The culprits are Albanian Muslims – it’s that simple. Since you found nothing wrong with the article itself, you chose to object on the grounds of things completely unrelated to the article. What is it that you intend to say? Debase the validity of the article? Agree with the media’s complicity.
Even the Interpol sites that I provided as sources list Albanian criminals as citizens of Serbia/Montenegro, or Yugoslavia. I understand that there could be one or two mistakes, here and there but this is an endemic recurrence that serves no truth and serves no man. If your derogatory remarks were aimed at the personality of Dr. Trifkovic, you can challenge him to a duel or you can get yourself in the same predicament as Dinesh did – (another numbskull who tried to get himself a scored point on account of Dr. Trifkovic’s perceived inaccuracy. There simply aren’t any. Your attempt to discredit a person behind an honest insightful analytical article is disgraceful as it is dishonest as is your (invented) used name. So what if Trifkovic ate a hard boiled egg or voted for the King Mombazu in the republic of Tonganzu? What is it to you? Do you get any point from trying to belittle such a good article? For Dr. Trifkovic this is nothing new. He’s been showing us, year after year, the danger of loose immigration laws – (EXACTLY APPLICALBE HERE), the probability of an anti-American sentiment from within America emanating from the Muslim community (EXACTLY APPLICABLE HERE). Between everything that is right, what exactly do you find objectionable? How qualified are you to make any pertinent remarks? What degree of knowledge or study do you have in regards to any portion of this article? From my end I can tell you (and this alleged Albanian Catholic) that there are no Christian Churches in the Northern Albania (within some 100km from Skoder (Skadar), in spite of Albanian claims that there are Christians there – maybe they now live in the caves that the landscape is dotted with – mosques they have – so they are not exactly atheists, but what happened to the churches? Vanished? I was there on a weekly basis throughout the early 1980’s, and from what I saw in other sources, nothing changed much in the meantime.
45 Comment by Slobodan Ninkovic on 11 May 2007:
I did not made a thing in a few sentences that I wrote, including my name.
Do you think that is quoting someone an insult?
Simply I do not believe in judgment of someone that served Republika Srpska in time of the war.
46 Comment by David Rolfe on 12 May 2007:
It’s as if a person has been bitten by a savage dog which he trained to attack someone else. I can’t feel a great sense of outrage about this attempted attack, although it would have been better if the would-be perpetrators had gone after Bill Clinton, Tony Blair or Jamie Shea.
47 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 12 May 2007:
Albanian “European” origin: http://www.euratlas.com/time/sea0600.htm
48 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 12 May 2007:
The enless paradox is exactly contained in Ninkompoopovic’s view. Kosovo – an ancient Serbian land has no rights to belong to Serbia while Albanians in spite having their own state (unlike the Palestinians) DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR KOSOVO’S separation? And this same polici now DOES NOT apply the the substantial Serbian presence in Lika, Krajina, Republika Srpska? Isn’t that exactly the application of dual standards which have been used to reduce Serbian lands, decimate Serbian population, as a result of on-going anti-Christian propaganda which clearly shows where your priorities are.
So what if Dr. Trifkovic was helpful to some group of Serbs at some point, it is only natural that a person of Serbian origin would try to help and guide some other Serbians.
Where in the name of Jesus Harold Christ is the crime in that?
How does that invalidate any of the points made in this article?
Aside from being a constant threat to peace in Europe, the Muslim launching pad (today’s Bosnia, Kosovo and Albania) are a guaranteed source of Jihad in Europe (even in America – as this incident demonstrates) – isn’ t that a reason enough for concern?
49 Comment by Slobodan Ninkovic on 12 May 2007:
Trifkovic did not help Serbs; he was just cheerleading for Milosevic regime at one point. He still supports ideas behind disaster that Serbia was pushed by Sloba.
His interpretation of history, a least in Bosnian war case is purely Orwellian. Hand picking up facts from that are proving his agenda and twisting them sometimes.
We had a bunch of history like that in former Yugoslavia before war, behind Milosevic and behind his “opponents”. It does non bring anything to anyone.
In this case he is using group of paint ball guns trained Muslim idiots to continue his agenda necessity of a new big war for Christianity.
Mr. Pavlovich do you think that use of childish insults for my name proves something.
50 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 12 May 2007:
It certainly does help. See how you scaled down your animosity and hostility. At first Dr. Trifkovic was “a British educated intellectual” – as if there is something terribly wrong with the British educational system – I attended a good chunk of British schools and can’t find any serious flaws with them.
You failed to do any research by using these blanket statements groundlessly. “Dr. Trifkovic supports Milosevic’s regime” seems to be taken out of Carla Del Ponte’s workbook. There are some Serbs (and non-Serbs) who are convinced that Islam and Roman Catholicism have been detrimental to the greatly reduced number of Serbians in the region (”Oluja” – military action remains UNSANCTIONED anywhere, while the Serbian “attrocities” are getting greater by the hour. What exact 8000 Muslims did Serbians “kill” at Srebrenica (a predominantly Serbian village?
Views like yours are inaccurate as much as they are toxic and biased, ignoring the plainest of facts. So if it takes a “childish name calling” to get you to see some sense – than that’s what it takes. Dr. Trifkovic has been, by far, the most diligent follower of Islamic invasion – in spite of the fact that they have (not yet) landed on American shores. He deserves credit beyond these comments here. He’s been fair, balanced, objective and accurate. I, would not have the capacity for such a sustained mild effort in the face of such injustice towards a peaceful God-loving Christian nation. Similar examples from the past showed us how Poland was swallowed and partitioned, how Bulgaria was rewarded in WW1, how Albanians prospered with their SS Skanderbeg Waffen division. I don’t need to see yet another Cele Kula (the tower of skulls) to know who is the perpetrator.
“My eyes and my heart greeted the remains of those brave men whose cut-off heads made the cornerstone of the independence of their homeland. May the Serbs keep this monument! It will always teach their children the value of the independence of a people, showing them the real price their fathers had to pay for it.” from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_Tower
51 Comment by liria on 12 May 2007:
i am not sure what you want to say but dont forgot one thing albanian are more europian than serbs .
52 Comment by albania on 12 May 2007:
averything that you say are lays and for Usa this is not important serb opinions because they now who wreally are albanians and who serbs. you killed thausands of people not only in kosova because its in your mentality to kill people and to say we are victims
53 Pingback by Definitionen av otacksamhet « Förnuftets kalla och oresonliga röst on 12 May 2007:
[...] Och därmed har du också definitionen av otacksamhet. Srdja Trifkovic tillägger: Having been assured ad nauseam over the years by successive U.S. administrations that Kosovo’s Albanians are not really serious about their Islam, that even when they desecrate Christian churches and joyously rip crosses from their cupolas they do it for nationalist rather than jihadist reasons, the powers-that-be are doing their utmost to ensure that the public remains anesthetized. Asking when and how Albanian “secularists” became Islamic radicals is a no-no. Being so audacious as to wonder what this transformation bodes for a new, independent Muslim state in the heart of Europe is simply not on. Asking questions about major KLA figures’ documented links to jihad terrorism (including to Osama bin Laden personally) is polizeilich verboten. In the meantime, cadres, cash and ordnance linked to jihadist outrages all over Europe have been traced back to Kosovo, including the bombings in Madrid (March 2004) and London (July 2005), and a rocket attack on the U.S. embassy in Athens last year. [...]
54 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 13 May 2007:
CHILD TRAFFICKING IN ALBANIA. MARCH, 2001.
http://www.savethechildren.it/2003/download/pubblicazioni/traffickingAlbania/traffickingAlbania.pdf
School bus hijacking in Athens, Greece, and countless others. What scularism is that? Even if I wanted to biased I couldn’t the simple facts are too abundant. There is not enough space to enumerate all the attrocities committed in the name of “Albanian secularism” – but it’s surprising that the targets are most often Eastern Orthodox Christians, while inside Albania proper, targets are other Albanians – probably those last 5 Christians that Mr. Moses mentioned earlier.
55 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 13 May 2007:
A young Albanian who hijacked a Greek public bus in May 1999
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a713624070~db=all
56 Comment by GJ Tryon on 13 May 2007:
Mr. Ninkovic’s belief, grounded though it may very well be in bitter personal experience, that our esteemed author’s former connection with the Milosevic government implicitly discredits everything he writes about the growing chaos in Kosovo begs a number of important questions: was the Milosevic government entirely culpable of alleged atrocities? (Tribunal verdict: No); was Milosevic himself entirely dishonorable in his pursuit of Serbian advantage or simply a good patriot? (Too early to tell); and finally, did Mr. Trifkovic ever undertake anything dishonorable in his capacity as Milosevic’s spokesman? (No evidence he ever did). But it will be up to Mr.Trifcovic himself to address and reject his former countryman’s unjust censure squarely and categorically, if he so deigns.
57 Comment by David Rolfe on 13 May 2007:
Srdja Trifkovic is one of a number of commentators from across the political spectrum who have warned us that we have been deceived about events in ‘the former Yugoslavia’. Most of these commentators have no links with Serbia and no obvious reason to be partisan. I find their version of events easier to believe than anything put out by the US and British governments, who did not hesitate to spin a web of deceipt about the threat allegedly posed by Saddam Hussein.
58 Comment by Trifkovic on 13 May 2007:
For the curious, re. Trifkovic-Milosevic-Karadzic “connection”:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Y7lZHzkxDV8J:www.chroniclesmagazine.org/News/Trifkovic/NewsST011703.html+trifkovic+apology&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
from January 17, 2003
Last Monday (January 13) a slanderous attack on me by one Stephen Schwartz was published by Frontpagemag.com. Calling me “the noted Islamophobe,” Schwartz claimed that I am closely identified with “the Russian ‘red-brown’ (Communazi) newspaper Pravda” and that I was “the main public advocate in the West for the regime of Slobodan Milosevic.”
Two days later, on January 15, David Horowitz published the following “Apology and Correction Regarding Serge Trifkovic” on FrontPageMagazine.com:
Frontpage regrets characterizations of Serge Trifkovic, author of The Sword of the Prophet, that were made in an article by Stephen Schwartz (CAIR’s Axis of Evil) to the effect that Trifkovic is an Islamophobe, is associated with Pravda or Antiwar.com, and “was the main advocate in the West for the regime of Slobodan Milosevic.” Serge Trifkovic is not associated with either Pravda or Antiwar.com. He was not a supporter of Slobodan Milsoevic. He is not an Islamophobe nor would Frontpage have given extensive space to a summary of his book if he were. Frontpage regrets any pain or injury this may have caused to Mr. Trifkovic. — David Horowitz.
Frontpage also published my “Reply”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5547
which included, inter alia, the following:
… [T]he claim that I was “the main public advocate in the West for the regime of Slobodan Milosevic” is as unfunny as it is untrue. It is also hurtful to me personally in view of the many risks I have taken with my long and well documented position vis-a-vis Mr. Milosevic. Let us therefore leave rhetoric aside and look at a small segment of verbatim quotes from my extensive record of articles and interviews on the subject of the former Serbian president, starting 13 years ago and continuing until our time:
“Slobodan Milosevic is cynically exploiting the nationalist awakening to perpetuate Communist rule and his own power in the eastern half of Yugoslavia.” U.S. News & World Report, June 18, 1990
“Communist leader Slobodan Milosevic needs outside enemies to halt the erosion of his popularity… Yugoslavia could be well on its way to becoming the Lebanon of Europe.” U.S. News & World Report, November 12, 1990
“Demagogue and populist.” The Yugoslav Crisis and the United States. (Stanford: Hoover Institution, 1991)
“Trifkovic said he [was] critical of the authoritarian rule of Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic and has called for his removal from office and democratic reforms.” The Plain Dealer (Cleveland), Sunday, September 6, 1992, p. 6-B
“Trusting Milosevic is like giving a bloodbank to Count Drakula.” The Times (London), Thursday, November 23, 1995, p. 16
“Milosevic has used his newly-fangled international legitimacy [after Dayton] to stifle even further all political opposition and to reassert state control.” The Phoenix Gazette, Tuesday, March 19, 1996, p. B5
“Milosevic is afraid of having Mladic and Karadzic delivered to The Hague not because of the possibility of a Serb backlash in Serbia itself, but because those two know quite a lot about Milosevic’s own role in the early days of the Yugoslav war, in ‘91 and ‘92.” BBC World Service TV, Newsdesk (live) 10:25GMT, Wednesday, 29 May 1996
“For Mr. Milosevic, the very existence of any alternative to his own power is not legitimate. Even the current facade of multi-party system he allowed only under pressure, treating it as something odious and temporary.” The Phoenix Gazette, Wednesday, December 18, 1996, p. B4
“The sanctions had proved an absolute boon to Milosevic. He could blame them for the abysmal economic situation in the country, which was in fact due to the structural defects of an inefficient socialist economy—an economy he was unwilling to reform… Milosevic could observe with calm equanimity the exodus of about a quarter of a million predominantly young and well-educated urban Serbs. Those who had provided the backbone of political opposition to his government were emigrating, and he was staying.” Chronicles, June 1997
“An incorrigible communist and blunderer.” The Philadelphia Inquirer, Saturday, September 6, 1997
“Milosevic… manipulates these crises to preserve his power. With each new surrender he is temporarily converted by the West from the Beast of the Balkans into the Necessary Partner. This outcome would be awful for Serbia. The nation should lose its tyrant, not its borders.” The Times (London), Thursday, March 18, 1999
“Albright and Milosevic manipulate each other and deserve each other… He had always been a recycled Communist apparatchik who manipulated the thetoric of nationalism in order to extend his shelf life. And his behaviour had always been personally functional, but systematically, from the viewpoint of Serb interests, dysfunctional. That’s why Serbs are in such a dire predicament right now.” CNN, Friday, March 26, 1999.
“Milosevic [is] a misshapen tyrant who will not flap his wings as long as he can feed on the evr-shrinking innards of Inner Serbia.” The Philadelphia Inquirer, Monday, November 22, 1999, p. A15
“Serbia, thanks to Milosevic, acquired the image of the last bastion of communism in Europe.” Testimony to the Canadian House of Commons, February 17, 2000
“Milosevic in Serbia and President Franjo Tudjman in Croatia were both busy establishing a quasi-dictatorial post-communist regime, and they needed vulgar nationalism—for a time—to outbid the most vulgar nationalists.” The Oxford Companion to Politics of the World. Oxford University Press, 2001, p. 80
“Something has snapped in the minds of many Serbs. They can now visualize Serbia after Milosevic. They can visualize Serbia without sanctions and without the shame that he has brought upon his people… And once they lose their respect, they will loss fear. And once they lose fear, they may end up lynching him.” CNN Headline News, live, Saturday, September 30, 2000, 6:10 p.m. Eastern
“Like some crazed anti-Midas, in his 13 years of chaotically autocratic rule Milosevic destroyed everything he touched… [He] cared not a hoot for his people’s interests or dignity, and turned his country into a corrupt, mafia-infested basket case. Milosevic’s arrogance and low cunning were matched only by his utter inability to devise a coherent strategy of anything—including his own political survival… It will take Serbia decades to recover from this awful man.” ChroniclesExtra, April 14, 2001
The list goes on, but this small sample should suffice. Of course I opposed the misguided NATO intervention in the Balkans, and the systematic misrepresentation of the wars of Yugoslav succession. In doing so I was in good company on both Left and Right, and on both sides of the Atlantic-but that is a different story. [...]
I have met Karadzic during my many trips to the Balkans but I never “worked” for him. Yes, I was Plavsic’s consultant during her brief presidency (1998), when she was persona gratissima in Washington, where I accompanied her during her visit in May of that year. She was certainly not a “member of the Milosevic regime”—quite the contrary, she was his determined foe, which made it possible for me to help her, and made her attractive in the eyes of the U.S. Administration.
59 Comment by TRIFKOVIC on 13 May 2007:
Re Trifkovic-Milosevic-Karadzic “connection,” please see
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5547
which has D. Horowitz’s apology to me personally:
Frontpage regrets characterizations of Serge Trifkovic… that were made in an article by Stephen Schwartz (CAIR’s Axis of Evil) to the effect that Trifkovic… “was the main advocate in the West for the regime of Slobodan Milosevic.” Serge Trifkovic… was not a supporter of Slobodan Milsoevic… Frontpage regrets any pain or injury this may have caused to Mr. Trifkovic.– David Horowitz
It also has my response to Schwartz (a self-avowed “Jew for Allah” whose Muslim name is Suleyman Ahmad) in which I state, inter alia:
[T]he claim that I was “the main public advocate in the West for the regime of Slobodan Milosevic” is as unfunny as it is untrue. It is also hurtful to me personally in view of the many risks I have taken with my long and well documented position vis-a-vis Mr. Milosevic. Let us therefore leave rhetoric aside and look at a small segment of verbatim quotes from my extensive record of articles and interviews on the subject of the former Serbian president, starting 13 years ago and continuing until our time:
“Slobodan Milosevic is cynically exploiting the nationalist awakening to perpetuate Communist rule and his own power in the eastern half of Yugoslavia.” U.S. News & World Report, June 18, 1990
“Communist leader Slobodan Milosevic needs outside enemies to halt the erosion of his popularity… Yugoslavia could be well on its way to becoming the Lebanon of Europe.” U.S. News & World Report, November 12, 1990
“Demagogue and populist.” The Yugoslav Crisis and the United States. Stanford: Hoover Institution, 1991
“Trifkovic said he [was] critical of the authoritarian rule of Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic and has called for his removal from office and democratic reforms.” The Plain Dealer (Cleveland), Sunday, September 6, 1992, p. 6-B
“[Trusting] Milosevic is like giving a bloodbank to Count Drakula.” The Times (London), Thursday, November 23, 1995, p. 16
“Milosevic has used his newly-fangled international legitimacy [after Dayton] to stifle even further all political opposition and to reassert state control.” The Phoenix Gazette, Tuesday, March 19, 1996, p. B5
“Milosevic is afraid of having Mladic and Karadzic delivered to The Hague not because of the possibility of a Serb backlash in Serbia itself, but because those two know quite a lot about Milosevic’s own role in the early days of the Yugoslav war, in ‘91 and ‘92.” BBC World Service TV, “Newsdesk” (live) 10:25GMT, Wednesday, 29 May 1996
“For Mr. Milosevic, the very existence of any alternative to his own power is not legitimate. Even the current façade of multi-party system he allowed only under pressure, treating it as something odious and temporary.” The Phoenix Gazette, Wednesday, December 18, 1996, p. B4
“The sanctions had proved an absolute boon to Milosevic. He could blame them for the abysmal economic situation in the country, which was in fact due to the structural defects of an inefficient socialist economy – an economy he was unwilling to reform… Milosevic could observe with calm equanimity the exodus of about a quarter of a million predominantly young and well-educated urban Serbs. Those who had provided the backbone of political opposition to his government were emigrating, and he was staying.” Chronicles, June 1997
“An incorrigible communist and blunderer.”
The Philadelphia Inquirer, Saturday, September 6, 1997
“Milosevic… manipulates these crises to preserve his power. With each new surrender he is temporarily converted by the West from the Beast of the Balkans into the Necessary Partner. This outcome would be awful for Serbia. The nation should lose its tyrant, not its borders.” The Times (London), Thursday, March 18, 1999
“Albright and Milosevic manipulate each other and deserve each other… He had always been a recycled Communist apparatchik who manipulated the thetoric of nationalism in order to extend his shelf life. And his behaviour had always been personally functional, but systematically, from the viewpoint of Serb interests, dysfunctional. That’s why Serbs are in such a dire predicament right now.”
CNN, Friday, March 26, 1999.
“Milosevic [is] a misshapen tyrant who will not flap his wings as long as he can feed on the evr-shrinking innards of Inner Serbia.” The Philadelphia Inquirer, Monday, November 22, 1999, p. A15
“Serbia, thanks to Milosevic, acquired the image of the last bastion of communism in Europe.” Testimony to the Canadian House of Commons, February 17, 2000
“Milosevic in Serbia and President Franjo Tudjman in Croatia were both busy establishing a quasi-dictatorial post-communist regime, and they needed vulgar nationalism – for a time – to outbid the most vulgar nationalists.” The Oxford Companion to Politics of the World. Oxford University Press, 2001, p. 80
“Something has snapped in the minds of many Serbs. They can now visualize Serbia after Milosevic. They can visualize Serbia without sanctions and without the shame that he has brought upon his people. . . And once they lose their respect, they will loss fear. And once they lose fear, they may end up lynching him.” CNN Headline News, live, Saturday, September 30, 2000, 6:10 p.m. Eastern
“Like some crazed anti-Midas, in his 13 years of chaotically autocratic rule Milosevic destroyed everything he touched… [He] cared not a hoot for his people’s interests or dignity, and turned his country into a corrupt, mafia-infested basket case. Milosevic’s arrogance and low cunning were matched only by his utter inability to devise a coherent strategy of anything – including his own political survival. . . It will take Serbia decades to recover from this awful man.” Chronicles Online, April 14, 2001
The list goes on, but this small sample should suffice. Of course I opposed the misguided NATO intervention in the Balkans, and the systematic misrepresentation of the wars of Yugoslav succession by the likes of Schwartz. In doing so I was in good company on both Left and Right, and on both sides of the Atlantic…
I have met Karadzic during my many trips to the Balkans but I never “worked” for him. Yes, I was Plavsic’s consultant during her brief presidency (1998), when she was persona gratissima in Washington, where I accompanied her during her visit in May of that year. She was certainly not a “member of the Milosevic regime” — quite the contrary, she was his determined foe, which made it possible for me to help her, and made her attractive in the eyes of the U.S. Administration.
60 Comment by Lloyd A. Conway on 13 May 2007:
And they say it’s a small world. I was mobilized with my National Guard unit last fall for duty in Iraq, sent to Ft. Dix, and ordered pizza from the only place that delivered to our barracks. (Our choices were Chinese and the pizza parlor in question.) It was too easy – other soldiers told us that they’d be there in a snap, as they knew where the barracks was, etc. None of us thought a thing about it; we’re hip-deep in Iraq, but 5+ years after 9/11, our security, even on a military post used as the major staging area for Guard/Reserve units deploying to Iraq, is still virtually nil.
My solution? Order a “Pork-Lovers’ Special,” and serve it to them for their last meal before their execution. I hereby volunteer for firing-squad duty.
-Lloyd A. Conway
61 Comment by IDLIR on 13 May 2007:
Mr Iliya Pavlovich
the bus hijacked from the albanian emigrant in greece was not related with any terrorism organisation.
the real reason was that this gentleman worked for a greek farmer for 6 months and he refused to give him his money, The albanian guy came from a very poor village of albania to make some money helping his family. in a very bad psychological condition he decided to hijack a public bus asking his money.
all the hostages was rescued
i dont understand why are you relating this story with the terrorism.
theres one and only reason mr Iliya Pavlovich to give albainians a bad name before the Decision Of the indipendence of KOSOVO.
well i am so sorry to inform you that thanks god albanians have proven long time ago the frienship to the american people.
NOmatter how hard sick nationalists like yourself try to spread antialbanian propaganda KOSOVO indipendence is already signed.
Theres nothing you can do.SErbian epoke is over.
Ps : Who supported the american goverment in the case of 4 chinese prisioners. named by chinese goverment as terrorists ?
ALBANIA was the only country that rescued american fereign politic from the diplomatica agravation with china.
So to me this is just an insulated case. They dont rapresent albanian people . They dont even claim anything in the name of albania. they are brainwashed form the fake islam predictions .
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62 Comment by Jerome on 13 May 2007:
It is appalling that some one would expect to gain insight about the Albanian people from someone whose name ends with -Kovic. Let’s face it, nutrality is just a term for intolerant idealist. I have studied Albanian culture and have grown to love it for several reasons but the most improtant: their rich history of hospitality and support of other nations in times of need. if it wasn’t for the Albanians, I am referring here to Christ’s Athlete (do some reading to find out), many parts of Europe would have been speaking Turkish by now !!!
63 Comment by David Rolfe on 14 May 2007:
No doubt it would be nice to gain an insight into the Albanian people, but it is of more interest to know what has been going on (and is going on) in the the ‘former Yugoslavia’ and, just as important, what my country’s government has been up to over there. Information is available from a range a sources – only a minority of informants have names endings in ‘-kovic’.
Here is a piece by Michael Meacher – a former Minister in the UK government.
“Less well known is evidence of the British government’s relationship with a wider Islamist terrorist network. During an interview on Fox TV this summer, the former US federal prosecutor John Loftus reported that British intelligence had used the al-Muhajiroun group in London to recruit Islamist militants with British passports for the war against the Serbs in Kosovo. Since July Scotland Yard has been interested in an alleged member of al-Muhajiroun, Haroon Rashid Aswat, who some sources have suggested could have been behind the London bombings.
According to Loftus, Aswat was detained in Pakistan after leaving Britain, but was released after 24 hours. He was subsequently returned to Britain from Zambia, but has been detained solely for extradition to the US, not for questioning about the London bombings. Loftus claimed that Aswat is a British-backed double agent, pursued by the police but protected by MI6.”
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,1566919,00.html
64 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 14 May 2007:
School bus is not nearly as benign as it seems to be. If we all expressed our grievances by employing retribution of any kind (let alone hijacking a school-bus with children) the entire world would be a complete CHAOS. Where are the traces of humanity and civility among the people who are proponents of Islam? Nowhere. The Interpol alone has devoted half of its manpower to search for various Albanians. Granted Mother Theres was also Albanian, but shuch a strong propensity towards crime and such ample evidence on past (as well as) ongoing criminal activities only become that much more prominent when the idea of Islamic Jihad is introduced – Didn’t those numbskulls shout “Allahu Akbar”. If my brain operated at only 30% capacity I’d be a little concerned not to mention suspicious and puzzled with Albanian true motives.
What are those good traits that Albanians have exibite throughout history?
1. They shot Serbian women and children while crossing frozen mountains January 1916 in spite of King Zog’s (Albanian king) who decreed that Albanian treat Serbian refugees with kindness and even accept their paper money – FAT CHANCE.
2. The entire Kosovo region has been Serbian for hundreds of years (how else woule the names of the rivers, mountains and towns be so clearly Serbian, how else would there be such a presence of Easter Orthodox Serbian Christian monuments, cemetaries, etc.?)
3. Albanian willingness to side against Serbians (with Turks during the Ottoman empire, with Germans during WW2) clearly shows that their appetite for the land of the Serbian neighbors has been on the increase.
4. Albanian mafia is involved in a lot more than drug trafficking and whitle slavery – both highly profitable activites where money can be funneled towars Albanian sources in the West (politicians of all nations are equally susceptable to receiveing large amounts of money for their “views’ – voices).
5. Albanian Semitic Origin (ethnically Souther shores of the Caspian Sea – today’s Azarbeijan, Iran, Eastern Turkey) makes them unwelcome in among both Greeks and Serbs. Their lands were awarded to them by a congress (London 1912) as follows:
“Creating a new state Shortly after the defeat of Turkey by the Balkan allies, a conference of ambassadors of the Great Powers (Britain, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary, France, and Italy) convened in London in December 1912 to settle the outstanding issues raised by the conflict. With support given to the Albanians by Austria-Hungary and Italy, the conference agreed to create an independent state of Albania. But, in drawing the borders of the new state, owing to strong pressure from Albania’s neighbours, the Great Powers largely ignored demographic realities and ceded the vast region of Kosova to Serbia, while, in the south, Greece was given the greater part of ‚ameria, a part of the old region of Epirus centred on the Thamis River. Many observers doubted whether the new state would be viable with about one-half of Albanian lands and population left outside its borders, especially since these lands were the most productive in food grains and livestock. On the other hand, a small community of about 35,000 ethnic Greeks was included within Albania’s borders. (However, Greece, which counted all Albanians of the Orthodox faith–20 percent of the population–as Greeks, claimed that the number of ethnic Greeks was considerably larger.) Thereafter, Kosova and the‚ cameria remained troublesome issues in Albanian-Greek and Albanian-Yugoslav relations. The Great Powers also appointed a German prince, Wilhelm Wied, as ruler of Albania. Wilhelm arrived in Albania in March 1914, but his unfamiliarity with Albania and its problems, compounded by complications arising from the outbreak of World War I, led him to depart from Albania six months later. The war plunged the country into a new crisis, as the armies of Austria-Hungary, France, Italy, Greece, Montenegro, and Serbia invaded and occupied it. Left without any political leadership or authority, the country was in chaos, and its very fate hung in the balance. At the Paris Peace Conference after the war, the extinction of Albania was averted largely through the efforts of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, who vetoed a plan by Britain, France, and Italy to partition Albania among its neighbours.”
XX. With friends like that – who need enemies?
65 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 14 May 2007:
It is no longer a question whether or not Albanians are louts – they are. In addition to which they (Albanians) went out of their way to prove their qualities (lack thereof) over the last 100 years (ever since they were granted statehood).
When there are such negative social dynamics, we see exactly what we see with Albanians:
1. School bus hijacked – never-mind it was a reasonable grievance, over lack of pay. Really?
2. Thousands of women sold to slavery – never-mind Islam condones it. A little conflicting with Christian views?
3. Major drug trafficking operations including dominance over Sicilian mafia in certain parts of Europe – never-mind.
4. Consistently most frequently wanted felons and criminals since the inception of Interpol throughout Europe – never-mind. OK, we won’t mind.
5. Never at friendly terms with any of their neighbors (NEVER-EVER) – never-mind. You can’t be friends with everybody especially if there are only two states you are bordering.
6. The few “brain-washed Albanians” caught in this Fort Dix plot – never-mind they were brain washed? Yeah, right.
7. The only ally Albania ever had was China while it was at odds with Stalin and Khruschev – it was an artificial alliance which lasted only during the rule of Mao. Today’s foreign relations of China proper are probably strongest with Serbia and the United States.
8. If I had a school-age daughter I would (probably) try to avoid sending her to school taught by convicted rapists.
That is about how much Albania and all things Albanians must be avoided. It is not only a matter of Serbian Christians loosing some small portion of their ancestral lands – it is another way that Islam creeps into Europe through a back-door. It is exactly why Turkey is not having an easy time getting accepted into the EU. Europe does not want any cannibals, criminals, rapists, drug traffickers, smugglers, etc. That’s the crux of the current events which only caught a few thousand remaining Serbians at God’s mercy for the next few decades, as I am convinced that this probably unavoidable injustice will be reversed.
Aside from all the above Albanians have always chosen wrong sides in every European conflict, while they wanted independence from Turkey – they equally became Turkish allies and suppliers of scalps. The very word ARNAUT – used by today’s Albanians referring to themselves is of Turkish origin and means “stable boy-cleaner” “horse watcher, trainer”. There was also that other power during WW2 where Albanians jumped at the opportunity to wear a swastika.
Europe already had some rather unpleasant (not to say bloody) encounters with Islam (all of Spain, good Southern half of France, much of Austro-Hungary – today’s Croatia, Serbia, Greece – and they are not looking to re-learn the same lesson, but they figure “ahh, it’s only a few thousand Serbs, this will satisfy their appetite, so they won’t come to our country’s front door”. Dead wrong. They will come, and they are coming.
Don’t rejoice quite yet. Stalinism didn’t last forever. Ancient Roman conquest of Gaul didn’t last forever. Nazi Germany didn’t last the promised thousand years.
Historical facts indicate the Albanian population of Kosovo tripled during the communist rule of Tito. Tito couldn’t forego the need to thumb his nose at the Russians as his loans from IMF depended on British, German, French and American say. This resulted in Willy Brandt and Konrad Adenauer before him, being fooled while trying to minimize German reparations to Yugoslavia. Anthony Eden, Harold Macmillan, Harold Wilson equally being fooled by Tito’s alliance with (Nehru – the exception), Gamal Abdel Nasser, Jomo Kenyata, Kwame N’Krumah and similar characters of dubious background, with blood of their people on their hands. Tito’s other influence was to allow “slightly porous” borders with Albania as to thumb his nose at Enver Xoxcha the Maoist leader of Albania. He further announced that he would personally be a godfather to any family’s 10th child. For all of you learned American readers some of this may come as a surprise – but when it comes to Albania you simply learn that there is always some element of surprise and it can only go from bad to worse. These facts remain undisputed, and a matter of public knowledge and record. The danger or Islam is both real and imminent. Giving away a few hundred square miles in Southern Europe may not seem like huge concession to Islam but the repercussion will be seen and heard throughout Europe both, soon and fast.
That is the real story behind the “brain-washed few Albanians” planning the attack on Fort Dix. Therein is the danger of a society (entire Albania) not mature enough – neither politically nor socially to be a member of the United Nations and even remotely attempting to protect some “other” views, religions, nations. Nope, such a stand is mysteriously hidden within the present day Albanians regardless of where they live.
As requested by “David Rolfe” and “Jerome”, this is some small insight into Albanians NOT coming from a last name ending with KOVIC, however all the facts are a matter of public record at numerous sources – don’t take my word for it. Go to Albania – I’ve been there dozens of times.
66 Comment by David Rolfe on 14 May 2007:
“As requested by “David Rolfe” and “Jerome”, this is some small insight into Albanians NOT coming from a last name ending with KOVIC….”
A request some small insight into Albanians NOT coming from a last name ending with KOVIC….”? From me? You misunderstood me,
“Iliya Pavlovich”.
I am happier to take the word of some someone with a last name ending in ‘-kovic’ than from from someone who name ends in ‘-lair’, or ‘-ush’.
67 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 14 May 2007:
Sorry Rolfy,
I misunderstood your sentence “only a minority of informants have names endings in ‘-kovic’.” – that wasn’t ever written by you – it was some ghost or some other entity on your keyboard – certainly not you.
Of course, you know that there are many lies here, regardless of who has posted them and you’ll have the integrity and courage to identify them (enumarate them) with some degree of reliable sources outside of Islamofascist propaganda? – Of course you do – you just don’t feel like that right now. What exactly is untrue or inaccurate about this tragic Islamic conquest which is hitting us all over the head and we are playing a role of some dumbfounded good Samaritan who is stupid, blind and dim-witted?
68 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 14 May 2007:
Sorry Rolfy,
I misunderstood your sentence “only a minority of informants have names endings in ‘-kovic’.” – that wasn’t ever written by you – it was some ghost or some other entity on your keyboard – certainly not you.
Of course, you know that there are many lies here, regardless of who has posted them and you’ll have the integrity and courage to identify them (enumarate them) with some degree of reliable sources outside of Islamofascist propaganda? – Of course you do – you just don’t feel like that right now. What exactly is untrue or inaccurate about this tragic Islamic conquest which is hitting us all over the head and we are playing a role of some dumbfounded good Samaritan who is stupid, blind and dim-witted? Wasn’t it you that said: “I am happier to take the word of some someone with a last name ending in ‘-kovic’ than from from someone who name ends in ‘-lair’, or ‘-ush’.”?
Unless that was a provocation?
69 Comment by Jerome on 14 May 2007:
I would like to dismiss my presence from this webpage but with due respect Mr. Pavlovich I would like to say that I am stunned with your inconsistent protrayal of facts. There is a world of evidence that speaks to the contrary.
Let me remind you of a saying by Rudolf Ludwig Karl Virchow, one of the greatest German pathologists, and anthropologists about Albanians:”Voila la race vraiment superieure de ces contrees.” (Further interpretation provided upon request.) Which begs the question is it Albanians or Serbians that define your passinate anger toward such a people!!
Correct me if I am wrong but was it the Albanians that assassinated King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia? (No need for answers here!) How about Karageorge (”Black George”) murdered in 1817 by by his rival Milos Obrenovich, who had him killed with an axe and sent his head to the Sultan in Constantinople? Was that a favor to the Turks? I am not certain but I am starting to think that you might be reading some French History here! (Well that’s another subject for discussion…)
….Here is another trustworthy statement:”In 3200 BC, there were many, many languages spoken besides Sumerian and Egyptian, but they were not fortunate enough to have a writing system. These languages are just as old. To take one interesting case, the Albanian language (spoken north of Greece) was not written down until about the 15th century AD, yet Ptolemy mentions the people in the first century BC.* The linguistic and archaeological evidence suggests that Albanians were a distinct people for even longer than that. So Albanian has probably existed for several millennia, but has only been written down for 500 years. With a twist of fate, Albanian might be considered very “old” and Greek pretty “new”.
Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Linguistic PhD
Not cencerned with the fluff here, – just gathering some evidence to dispute the lack of historicity in the formentioned comments.
How about a dose of the Massacre in Scutari? In which the bayonets pierce the inoccent children while in their fetuses? Let’s not marginalize what is happening as a result of human depravity. You as well as any other human being are capable of dishonoring our Creator by performing barbaric acts. It is by God’s (Christ’s if you desire spesifics!) grace that we are what we are and lets allow ouselves to bring a part of our American dream to all Serbians and Albanians alike…
Jerome…
70 Comment by David Rolfe on 15 May 2007:
Iliya Pavlovich
“only a minority of informants have names endings in ‘-kovic’.” – that wasn’t ever written by you – it was some ghost or some other entity on your keyboard – certainly not you.”
I was merely referring to the well-known fact that that there are a number of non-Serbs among those who have tried to open the eyes of Westerners to what has being going on in Serbia. I think that it was John Laughland, writing in The Spectator, who first alerted me to the fact that the wool was being pulled over our eyes. Then there were Diana Johnstone, Eve-Anne Prentice and others.
71 Comment by Jerome White on 15 May 2007:
I would like to dismiss my presence from this webpage but with due respect Mr. Pavlovich I would like to say that I am stunned with your inconsistent protrayal of facts. There is a world of evidence that speaks to the contrary.
Let me remind you of a saying by Rudolf Ludwig Karl Virchow, one of the greatest German pathologists, and anthropologists about Albanians:”Voila la race vraiment superieure de ces contrees.” (Further interpretation provided upon request.) Which begs the question is it Albanians or Serbians that define your passinate anger toward such a people!!
Correct me if I am wrong but was it the Albanians that assassinated King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia? (No need for answers here!) How about Karageorge (”Black George”) murdered in 1817 by by his rival Milos Obrenovich, who had him killed with an axe and sent his head to the Sultan in Constantinople? Was that a favor to the Turks? I am not certain but I am starting to think that you might be reading some French History here! (Well that’s another subject for discussion…)
….Here is another trustworthy statement:”In 3200 BC, there were many, many languages spoken besides Sumerian and Egyptian, but they were not fortunate enough to have a writing system. These languages are just as old. To take one interesting case, the Albanian language (spoken north of Greece) was not written down until about the 15th century AD, yet Ptolemy mentions the people in the first century BC.* The linguistic and archaeological evidence suggests that Albanians were a distinct people for even longer than that. So Albanian has probably existed for several millennia, but has only been written down for 500 years. With a twist of fate, Albanian might be considered very “old” and Greek pretty “new”.
Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Linguistic PhD
Not cencerned with the fluff here, – just gathering some evidence to dispute the lack of historicity in the formentioned comments.
How about a dose of the Massacre in Scutari? In which the bayonets pierce the inoccent children while in their fetuses? Let’s not marginalize what is happening as a result of human depravity. You as well as any other human being are capable of dishonoring our Creator by performing barbaric acts. It is by God’s (Christ’s if you desire spesifics!) grace that we are what we are and lets allow ouselves to bring a part of our American dream to all Serbians and Albanians alike…
Jerome
72 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 15 May 2007:
Thank you for dismissing your presence from the page Jerome, pro-Albanian propaganda has done a good job on a lot more people than you alone. Yes, there are some sources that would ascribe some humane values to this group of murderers. The recent history (about 100 years or so) does not have any of those flowery views you manufactured so cutely. I don’t know how many times you have been to Albania proper (I know-I have), in addition to which my experiences with the INS document processing where I equally noticed Islamic, Albanian, German, Irish, French, Austrian and many other nationals. German documents are considered incomplete unless they state the religion (Lutheran in most Northern Germans, Roman Catholic in most Southern Germans) Albanian applicant’s passports most times were issued by TURKEY. Their birth places were often IVONGOROD – a bastardization of town in Montenegro by the name of Ivangrad. They kept inventing names for any town where they had even the most modest presence – no need to Islamicize any of the Turkish words. The consistency of their depravity (not so inconsistent with Islam) has been a topic by Dr. Trifkovic – this time they attempted an attack on a host country that offered them a refuge – that in itself should be enough of a factor in getting some clue as to what this ethnic group holds high within their own VALUE SYSTEM. I know I have my own VALUE SYSTEM. maybe even you have one, but Albanian’s value system in the last few hundred years has been rather peculiar (at best).
I thank you for bowing out and offering your wisdom (and sources) to some pro Islamic pro Albanian media source. The media (in most countries) has been rather non-discriminative when it comes to small issues (such as truth, consistencey, etc.).
I hope you don’t get forced to go back on your word and re-enter this discussion which would be very much along the Islamofascist VALUE SYSTEM – basically doing what you feel, when you get to feel it irrespective of any morality, truth, and those bothersome little details, like encroaching on freedoms and lives of others.
No wonder this country “is going down the tubes” under the assumption that there are more persons, even larger groups with such warped liberal thinking – refusing to see a forest from the tree. We desperately needed this Fort Dix incident, but there are those shameless aplogists who invoke the name of our Lord while they turn a blind eye to an obvious criminal delict – or even a long history of criminality contained within one group (race, ethnic group, or definded by some other means). Isn’t it laughable how the word Mafia was forcibly excluded from NYC speach in the 1970s? It was not considered acceptable that the Italian origin be connected to anything that sounds like Mafia. Organized crime was a newly adopted euphemism. You belong to that breed. Stay there please. Changing a few words here and there exactly brought us collectively into this nightmare. We pander to Islam on account of some miserable oil, fossil fuel or possibly some of our officials having a financial interest at some Texas based oil refinery businesses, resulting in such silly pronouncements “Islam is a religion of peace” – “It is the radical Islamists that America is pursuing over there”. Granted your statements are not as idiotic as the two I just quoted, but they are not too far removed from the biased essence of Polyanic blindness and political need to pander to Islam, King Faisal or some other source of oil.
73 Comment by Iliya Pavlovich on 16 May 2007:
In spite of the fact that which finds generalizing rather unappealing or even inaccurate, some generalities do stand the test of time. Here are some, which remain undisputed.
Without an extensive knowledge of history we can all, easily conclude that the British Empire was rather strongly inclined towards forming a substantial number of colonies at the time of their colonial peak (all of North America, India, Australia, etc. etc.)
Both Spain and Portugal competed (and conflicted each other) substantialy in Africa and South America during the period of their respective conquests.
The Ancient Roman Empire was equally expansionistic. So was Persia, so was Alexander’s Macedonia. No need to mention Hitler’s Germany or Stalin’s CCCP.
After the above “more pedestrian” examples of expansionism we have a very different methodology found only in Islam. The Ottomans expanded by most brutal means. American slavery pales by comparison to what the Islamists did to the indigenous people they conquered – that (ANTI)-social aspect is what makes the danger of Islam so serious and so hard to underestimate.
There are frequent Islamic apologists who like to use the idiotic line “oh well, this was an act of a lone “brain-washed” Islamic radical” – the rest of us are not like that. That is exactly what we get served by the media’s brain washing campaign aimed at the American public at large. To begin with, American long term memory is next to non-existent, and the little which does exist is often laced with unhealthy dose of liberalism cloaked in “freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion”. Wrong on all three accounts. Islam is a cult – not a religion. The acts of Muslims from the Balkans (Albanians and Bosniaks) have been documented over a good few centuries and they can no longer be “acts of lone deranged (Salt Lake City shopping mall shooter). This euphemistic sugarcoating is making the bitter pill of truth – easier to swallow – for the masses, but as long as there are acute and astute observers like Dr. Trifkovic, Dr. Fleming, Mr. Jatras and a few others, the truth will be easier to disclose – no matter how “unsuitable” it may seem to our current (or future) powers.
74 Comment by Tony on 18 May 2007:
I never thought I would miss Tito.
75 Comment by Milence on 20 May 2007:
Somebody should wrtie and circulate a petition asking Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA) if he is taking dope or alcoholic beverage in order to be able to sleep at night. Any sane and Christ living person on Earth would not allow a pure anti-christian stronghold in the heart of Europe, a christian continent.
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77 Comment by DARKO TRIFUNOVIC on 30 December 2007:
Al Qaeda Media Committee Attacks on Darko Trifunovic
I am posting this on behalf of Darko Trifunovic:
SOME COUNTER TERRORISM EXPERTS FEAR AL QAEDA ATTACKS THEM WITH THE INFLUENCE OF AL QAEDA MEDIA COMMITTEE – THE CASE OF DR DARKO TRIFUNOVIC
World wide counter terrorist experts have indicated that they believe in the danger of web attacks on them. Now Al Qaeda and Radical Islamists are targetting not only our objects and soldiers, but also our intellectuals.
Al-Qaeda Media Committee Details, Center of Gravity: Pakistan Area of Operation, Afghanistan, United Kingdom, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo
In the early 1990s, this committee produced a publication called “Nashrat al Akhbar” — the Newscast, in the Hyatabad neighborhood of Peshawar, Pakistan. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the former Bosnian and Afghanistan war veteran with a Bosnian passport, took over leadership of this committee during the planning of the Sept. 11 attacks, starting around 1999.
It become clear that al-Qaeda’s committee now target our intellectuals, experts, professors etc…recently there has been an ongoing Internet War against Dr Darko Trifunovic, from the Faculty of Security Studies, University of Belgrade, who discovered existence of “White Al Qaeda” in Bosnia and Herzegovina
(Sources: 1Jamal al-Fadl testimony, United States vs. Osama bin Laden et al, trial transcript, Day 2, Feb. 6, 2001. 2: The 9-11 Commission Report. July 22, 2004. Chapter 5.1.)
The Media Committee coordinates with the owners of pro-fundamentalist media and activists inside major media outlets to spread Islamic fundamentalist propaganda. The basic function of this Committee is to justify the activities of Islamic fundamentalists. The main weapon is to claim that Muslims are always and everywhere the exclusive victims of violence. Of course, the truth is completely different, because the Islamic fundamentalists initiate violence for the purpose of establishing the pan-Islamic Ummah, a theocracy that excludes the existence of other religions. For example, in Kosovo-Metohia Islamic extremists among the Kosovo Albanians, with Al-Qaeda’s help, have managed to create a perception that the Albanian majority was endangered by the Serb minority. Thanks to the work of the Media Committee, the secession and terrorism of Islamic fundamentalists among the Kosovo Albanians were presented as a “struggle for freedom.” One of the main objectives of the Islamic fundamentalists’ global network is to create a perception in the world public opinion that Muslims are always the victims, in order to justify conflict and conquest. Victim status is thus claimed for Kosovo Albanians, their co-religionists in Kashmir, Palestine, Russia (Chechnya), Sudan, Tanzania, Bosnia, Macedonia, Malaysia, East Timor, etc.
What the Media Committee of Al Qaeda from Bosnia wants to hide:
Links between 9/11 and the Al-Qaeda network in Bosnia-Herzegovina
Officials of the Muslim-Croat Federation in B-H never released any information to the US investigators or lawyers representing the families of 9/11 victims, because such information would cast a new light on the entire B-H conflict. They would have made it obvious that the war was a jihad, a religious war waged against Bosnia’s Christians by the Islamic extremists.
The Interpol office in Wiesbaden, Germany sent a request to the Bosnian authorities on 18 September 2001 to verify the identity of a certain Mr. Atta, who according to their information used to reside in the hamlet of Bakotić, 8 km outside Maglaj, in 1999. Attached to the request was the photo of Mohamed Atta, and a note to verify it through a certain Mehmed Hasanić, a resident of Bakotić. This means Mohamed Atta was trained in B-H; it is known that he left B-H for Hamburg, from where he proceeded to the United States and his ultimate mission – to destroy the Twin Towers.
78 Comment by Patrick on 30 December 2007:
Jihad Online: Islamic Terrorists and the Internet
Introduction
The trend by Islamic extremists to utilize the Internet, particularly via websites, as a way to communicate, coordinate and to raise funds, continues a year after 9/11. The practice of Islamic extremist groups to turn the openness and instantaneous nature of communications on the Internet to their advantage is shown by the number, variety and depth of the sites dedicated to assisting these groups in their cause. While some of the websites have folded or been taken down, new ones, such as stopamerica.org (whose administrator has been indicted as a possible Al-Qaeda agent) have blossomed, carrying similar messages of hate and destruction. The existing sites maintained by Islamic extremists have continued to act as central nodes of disseminating propaganda, messaging among members and fundraising.
The Internet allows groups that are spread across the globe to quickly and efficiently get messages out to adherents; and the use of cryptography and other privacy tools allows groups to do so covertly. Because access to the Internet is so fast, cheap and flexible, the complexity of deciphering and tracking covert operations is compounded by the ease with which sites become known and shared; and can then be folded and restarted under different names using different addresses. The techniques and diverse means to keep messages and information hidden online are a practice that these groups will continue to improve upon and refine in the future. Because a troubling web site is gone, doesn’t mean that Jihad has been abandoned. On the contrary, constant monitoring is required to track and trace the war that’s been declared on the non-Islamic world in both the electronic and real world.
The report: Jihad Online: Islamic Terrorists and the Internet provides detailed information on this topic.
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79 Comment by KosovoJustice on 2 March 2008:
You have to see this to believe it:
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/
To all who thinks that Serbs are “telling stories” and that (Serbian) police was really killing innocent people, please find time to go through this web site in detail, read each article, and see each photo.
KLA is terrorist and mafia organization. They were the most dangerous mafia in NYC in 80′ and 90′ but also in Italy and other countries surrounding Albania.
KLA organized killings of small groups of Albanians in more than several occasions, and destruction of houses or entire villages, far from witnesses, so they could easily attribute those killings to the police and military, raising rage and fear among common people and increasing hatred against Serbs. In that atmosphere it was more than easy to find volunteers among Albanians but also create false image in foreign media, which was easy task since Milosevic’s regime was already “painted black” by foreign media.
Albanian Invasion on Kosovo was determined believe it or not, in 1878, 130 years ago, and is part of Greater Albania, idea that is being transfered from father to son, for generations.
In 1948. there was registered 490.000 Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija.
In 1991. number of Albanians was 1.6 Million.
Do you really believe that reasonable explanation of 1.1 Million people difference in the time frame of 48 years is “they got lot of babies”??? Or major number of Albanians today illegally crossed border between Serbia and Albania, during communism regime in former Yugoslavia. FYI: Albanians were in control of Kosovo and Metohija region during communism as they were communists themselves and Party gave them executive positions in that south province to keep public peace. But extremism didn’t stop, it was just put “under the carpet”. Explosion of rapes, murders, beatings, threats and other extremist actions took place in 1980′, in such scale that Serbs tried to flee from Kosovo in large numbers – that communists had to force them back by beating and threats, using police forces and forbidding all press that would report situation in Kosovo.
But number of Serbs and other non-Albanians decreased, and in period of 1981 to 1991 dropped from 209.000 to 194.000, as a result of terrorist acts.
The only reason how Milosevic raised in power is Albanian terror – he promised Serbs in Kosovo that he will stop extremists.
During 90′, there were constant attacks on the police stations, and military outposts, especially on the border of Serbia – Albania. Many police officers died in these terrorist actions. When counter-attack would come, KLA would use human shields, to increase number of killed civilians and use that as “proof of Serb repression”. Hashim Thaqi himself gave interview to Voice Of Russia in 2001 confessing this tactic of KLA in 90′.
But since NATO was dragged into fighting the war for KLA, against Serbs, it has no choice but to continue the same politic, even though now it becomes clear who is who in this tragedy, or else to face charges for war crimes, aggression on a country without a resolution of UN and UN Security Council (let me remind you, NATO is a weapon of UN, but it cannot make decision to attack a country or perform any military operations without UN resolution) and killing thousands of civilians.
I understand for most of Europeans and Americans it is a science-fiction that Serbs were actually good and that your governments did something bad – but sooner you understand that, the better for all of us – you still can make a difference and at least stop going in the wrong way – forcing independence of Kosovo is far away from creating stability in Balkans.
Let me just remind you all:
Kosovo is not just Kosovo, there are 2 regions even though all international media are making it sound like it’s one:
” Kosovo and Metohia ”
Two regions, not one.
80 Comment by KosovoJustice on 7 March 2008:
Author just said the sad truth. Unfortunately, words are not enough,
but supported by photos and documents, will have needed effect:
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/photos/klacrimes001.jpg
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/photos/klacrimes004.jpg
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/photos/klacrimes005.jpg
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/
http://www.KosovoLiberationArmy.com/photos/
I warn you, photos are not nice, show extreme violence and you should be very cautious when opening these links….
81 Comment by Michel on 9 March 2008:
Kosovo’s unilateral declaration of independence on Feb. 17, 2008 is an outrage that Serbia will not accept. This outrage has united us. We will overcome this injustice unless we’re enslaved again. Our chains have been forged in the past (Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian empires) and in recent times (Communists and NATO). Their clanking has been heard the world over…..