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	<title>Comments on: Hating Babies, Hating God</title>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Torodes have since changed their tune.  http://www.openembrace.com/ 
They were never really so much about &quot;open embrace,&quot; as they called it, but about non-Catholics practicing NFP.  When NFP had unexpected drawbacks, they resumed the typical Protestant position. 
I am due any day (minute?) with our sixth baby.  We do not practice any sort of birth control, except extended breastfeeding---but then again, I just weaned our two year old last month so it is certainly not our top reason for nursing our little ones.  
I just want to say one thing here.  I have been asked by dozens of people, in dozens of ways, &quot;So how many kids are you planning to have?&quot;  I have never set out to have X number of children.  I did set out, when I was 17, to radically trust God.  For me, that has meant throwing myself into being a wife and mother with all that I have in me.  My husband tells people, when someone asks how many kids we want, &quot;All of them.  We don&#039;t try to get pregnant.  We don&#039;t try not to get pregnant.  We just have a good time and when God blesses it we say thank you.&quot;
It&#039;s not a medical issue to me.  It&#039;s an issue of trusting in the One who says He opens and closes the womb.
God bless you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Torodes have since changed their tune.  <a href="http://www.openembrace.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openembrace.com/</a><br />
They were never really so much about &#8220;open embrace,&#8221; as they called it, but about non-Catholics practicing NFP.  When NFP had unexpected drawbacks, they resumed the typical Protestant position.<br />
I am due any day (minute?) with our sixth baby.  We do not practice any sort of birth control, except extended breastfeeding&#8212;but then again, I just weaned our two year old last month so it is certainly not our top reason for nursing our little ones.<br />
I just want to say one thing here.  I have been asked by dozens of people, in dozens of ways, &#8220;So how many kids are you planning to have?&#8221;  I have never set out to have X number of children.  I did set out, when I was 17, to radically trust God.  For me, that has meant throwing myself into being a wife and mother with all that I have in me.  My husband tells people, when someone asks how many kids we want, &#8220;All of them.  We don&#8217;t try to get pregnant.  We don&#8217;t try not to get pregnant.  We just have a good time and when God blesses it we say thank you.&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s not a medical issue to me.  It&#8217;s an issue of trusting in the One who says He opens and closes the womb.<br />
God bless you.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pill, The Good Samaritan, The Distraught Woman and Baseball &#171; Poststop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Pill, The Good Samaritan, The Distraught Woman and Baseball &#171; Poststop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Phillips has posted a few quotes from an article in Chronicles Magazine by Aaron D. Wolf &#8216;Hating Babies, Hating God&#8216;. One thing I have often thought to myself in the past and which Wolf points out is that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Phillips has posted a few quotes from an article in Chronicles Magazine by Aaron D. Wolf &#8216;Hating Babies, Hating God&#8216;. One thing I have often thought to myself in the past and which Wolf points out is that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Generic Celexa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Generic Celexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes sense! Nice article! I&#039;ll Digg right away....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes sense! Nice article! I&#8217;ll Digg right away&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Church leaders are fond of quoting &quot;natural law&quot; as the reason for opposition to artificial birth control.  However, when we consider that the Roman Catholic Church is the only institution within Christendom requiring mandatory celibacy for its clerics, another stronger reason for the prohibition of artificial birth control emerges.  

Since the hierarchy is celibate and therefore cannot produce life in the flesh, it needs a ready reserve of proxy breeders, the &quot;good catholic couple&quot; to do this work for them.

Therefore, as a society becomes more sophisticated, the magical world view professed by the Church leaders does not hold water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Church leaders are fond of quoting &#8220;natural law&#8221; as the reason for opposition to artificial birth control.  However, when we consider that the Roman Catholic Church is the only institution within Christendom requiring mandatory celibacy for its clerics, another stronger reason for the prohibition of artificial birth control emerges.  </p>
<p>Since the hierarchy is celibate and therefore cannot produce life in the flesh, it needs a ready reserve of proxy breeders, the &#8220;good catholic couple&#8221; to do this work for them.</p>
<p>Therefore, as a society becomes more sophisticated, the magical world view professed by the Church leaders does not hold water.</p>
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