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		<title>By: M.A. Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2010/02/22/unzism-a-dangerous-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-197880</link>
		<dc:creator>M.A. Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an overview of the Unzism debate now taking place on many websites:

http://conservativetimes.org/?p=4723</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an overview of the Unzism debate now taking place on many websites:</p>
<p><a href="http://conservativetimes.org/?p=4723" rel="nofollow">http://conservativetimes.org/?p=4723</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Unzism Debate &#8211; Around the Web &#124; Conservative Heritage Times</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2010/02/22/unzism-a-dangerous-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-197879</link>
		<dc:creator>The Unzism Debate &#8211; Around the Web &#124; Conservative Heritage Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Burton and I write a two-part piece a Chronicles, “Unzism, A Dangerous Doctrine.”  The first part demonstrates that Unz largely cherry picks data to minimize the phenomenon of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: M.A. Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2010/02/22/unzism-a-dangerous-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-197874</link>
		<dc:creator>M.A. Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Burton, at his blog, has replied to Unz&#039;s response:

http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/reply_to_unz.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Burton, at his blog, has replied to Unz's response:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/reply_to_unz.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/reply_to_unz.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas MOSES</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2010/02/22/unzism-a-dangerous-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-197853</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas MOSES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Austrian controversy is above all truly tragic.  I have a great deal of respect for Austrian economics because of their willingness to take unpopular positions and to challenge conventional [Keynesian] zombiism, and although Mises was an atheist Jew, I do think there is something of German sensibility to that mentality.  I was raised in a Norwegian-Austrian ethical ambiance and my mother and her family, though not economists, have a great deal of disdain for what economists call Keynesian--it is not intellectual resistance but purely instinctive repulsion.

The real problem is that Austro-Libertarian philosophy makes a god out of money and is willing to sacrifice spiritual and material treasures on the altar of laissez-faire.  That above all is why it is impossible to have a civilised discussion with a dyed-in-the-wool libertarian or Marxist:  he engages in human sacrifice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Austrian controversy is above all truly tragic.  I have a great deal of respect for Austrian economics because of their willingness to take unpopular positions and to challenge conventional [Keynesian] zombiism, and although Mises was an atheist Jew, I do think there is something of German sensibility to that mentality.  I was raised in a Norwegian-Austrian ethical ambiance and my mother and her family, though not economists, have a great deal of disdain for what economists call Keynesian--it is not intellectual resistance but purely instinctive repulsion.</p>
<p>The real problem is that Austro-Libertarian philosophy makes a god out of money and is willing to sacrifice spiritual and material treasures on the altar of laissez-faire.  That above all is why it is impossible to have a civilised discussion with a dyed-in-the-wool libertarian or Marxist:  he engages in human sacrifice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2010/02/22/unzism-a-dangerous-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-197852</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas Moses writes: &quot;What would the world be today if Rome had not defeated and destroyed Carthage? A Carthaginian empire, as Dr. Fleming pointed out, might scarcely have been as receptive as the Roman empire to Christianity.&quot;

G.K. Chesterton&#039;s The Everlasting Man hinges on that very idea. Chesterton rightly distinguishes among types of paganism, seeing some (Greek and Roman, for example) as easily able to be Christianized, while those marked by Fertility Cult human sacrifice could not be Christianized - they had to be eradicated. 

Now, we have the &#039;Austrian&#039; and other Libertarians lauding the child sacrifice monsters of Carthage and great because they were businessmen, which makes the Libertarians as morally perverse as the cultural Marxists who laud the Aztecs and damn the Spanish.

There are only two sides, and there are many key issues that mark conclusively which side you are on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas Moses writes: "What would the world be today if Rome had not defeated and destroyed Carthage? A Carthaginian empire, as Dr. Fleming pointed out, might scarcely have been as receptive as the Roman empire to Christianity."</p>
<p>G.K. Chesterton's The Everlasting Man hinges on that very idea. Chesterton rightly distinguishes among types of paganism, seeing some (Greek and Roman, for example) as easily able to be Christianized, while those marked by Fertility Cult human sacrifice could not be Christianized - they had to be eradicated. </p>
<p>Now, we have the 'Austrian' and other Libertarians lauding the child sacrifice monsters of Carthage and great because they were businessmen, which makes the Libertarians as morally perverse as the cultural Marxists who laud the Aztecs and damn the Spanish.</p>
<p>There are only two sides, and there are many key issues that mark conclusively which side you are on.</p>
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		<title>By: The American Conservative &#187; Ron Unz On Hispanic Crime: Nice Going, But So What If He&#8217;s Right?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The American Conservative &#187; Ron Unz On Hispanic Crime: Nice Going, But So What If He&#8217;s Right?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] no more crime on average than whites has caused a stir. Some immigration restrictionists are not pleased. Still, it seems to me that restrictionists (and I count myself one) should welcome any effort, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no more crime on average than whites has caused a stir. Some immigration restrictionists are not pleased. Still, it seems to me that restrictionists (and I count myself one) should welcome any effort, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Stanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How interesting that the newest TAC arrived today without a letters to the editor section. It appears the previous issue (with its article by Unz) didn&#039;t generate a blip on the reader&#039;s radar; perhaps they were all to busy crying for the Aztecs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How interesting that the newest TAC arrived today without a letters to the editor section. It appears the previous issue (with its article by Unz) didn't generate a blip on the reader's radar; perhaps they were all to busy crying for the Aztecs!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas MOSES</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2010/02/22/unzism-a-dangerous-doctrine/comment-page-1/#comment-197839</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas MOSES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Your sense of history marks who and what you are culturally. If your heart bleeds for the poor Aztecs and their civilization destroyed by the Spanish, your heart is culturally on the side of human sacrifice.&lt;/i&gt;

Beautifully, beautifully stated, and an excellent case for parents to STOP paying for their children to attend universities staffed with such slime.  I would not allow such a person in my home; why should I pay his livelihood?

What would the world be today if Rome had not defeated and destroyed Carthage?  A Carthaginian empire, as Dr. Fleming pointed out, might scarcely have been as receptive as the Roman empire to Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Your sense of history marks who and what you are culturally. If your heart bleeds for the poor Aztecs and their civilization destroyed by the Spanish, your heart is culturally on the side of human sacrifice.</i></p>
<p>Beautifully, beautifully stated, and an excellent case for parents to STOP paying for their children to attend universities staffed with such slime.  I would not allow such a person in my home; why should I pay his livelihood?</p>
<p>What would the world be today if Rome had not defeated and destroyed Carthage?  A Carthaginian empire, as Dr. Fleming pointed out, might scarcely have been as receptive as the Roman empire to Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this comment by robert is spot on: &quot;I forgot to mention history as another muse through which a culture is transmitted. Your mention of the revolutions — the English civil war, the French Revolution and American Civil War — are the most talked about but least understood aspects of our long history. I have thought for a long time and still think that the biggest problem in understanding another philosophy or religion, is the failure to understand ones own. Christians and realists of all persuasions today, or what is left of them, are blocked in two ways — we have lost our civilizations imagination or traditions ( Folks like Russell Kirk , T.S. Eliot, The Southern Agrarians; poets like Robert Frost and more recently even Wendell Berry have all attested to this fact) Catholics seem to have thought it was abbrogated after the Second Vatican Council and for the most part simply “let it go.” The other block is that without a rich imagination the intellect becomes enemic and doubts its ability to know.&quot;

Your sense of history marks who and what you are culturally. If your heart bleeds for the poor Aztecs and their civilization destroyed by the Spanish, your heart is culturally on the side of human sacrifice. 

We have lost out contact with our roots. The whole of Modern culture is a ripping up of roots so that they may be replaced. The Reformers made that revolutionary spirit seem &#039;restorative,&#039; and fair, and civilization has seen a slow winding toward chaos.

Vatican 2 documents tend to be vaguely worded, which allows for widely diverging implementations. That allowed the Catholic dissenters and liberals to run amuck. The rotten and poisonous fruits of their &#039;spirit of Vatican II&#039; power are everywhere crying out to Heaven for redress.

The last sentence is perfect: &quot;The other block is that without a rich imagination the intellect becomes enemic and doubts its ability to know.&quot;

Flannery O&#039;Connor would agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this comment by robert is spot on: "I forgot to mention history as another muse through which a culture is transmitted. Your mention of the revolutions — the English civil war, the French Revolution and American Civil War — are the most talked about but least understood aspects of our long history. I have thought for a long time and still think that the biggest problem in understanding another philosophy or religion, is the failure to understand ones own. Christians and realists of all persuasions today, or what is left of them, are blocked in two ways — we have lost our civilizations imagination or traditions ( Folks like Russell Kirk , T.S. Eliot, The Southern Agrarians; poets like Robert Frost and more recently even Wendell Berry have all attested to this fact) Catholics seem to have thought it was abbrogated after the Second Vatican Council and for the most part simply “let it go.” The other block is that without a rich imagination the intellect becomes enemic and doubts its ability to know."</p>
<p>Your sense of history marks who and what you are culturally. If your heart bleeds for the poor Aztecs and their civilization destroyed by the Spanish, your heart is culturally on the side of human sacrifice. </p>
<p>We have lost out contact with our roots. The whole of Modern culture is a ripping up of roots so that they may be replaced. The Reformers made that revolutionary spirit seem 'restorative,' and fair, and civilization has seen a slow winding toward chaos.</p>
<p>Vatican 2 documents tend to be vaguely worded, which allows for widely diverging implementations. That allowed the Catholic dissenters and liberals to run amuck. The rotten and poisonous fruits of their 'spirit of Vatican II' power are everywhere crying out to Heaven for redress.</p>
<p>The last sentence is perfect: "The other block is that without a rich imagination the intellect becomes enemic and doubts its ability to know."</p>
<p>Flannery O'Connor would agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding &quot;hispanic&quot; gangs in California prisons; they&#039;re making life miserable for the incarcerated bloods and crips. That&#039;s a good thing in my honest opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding "hispanic" gangs in California prisons; they're making life miserable for the incarcerated bloods and crips. That's a good thing in my honest opinion.</p>
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