Comments on: A Trial That Will Convict Us All

By: virgilius

virgilius — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:30:18 +0000

After all the Patriot Acts, airport gestapo, constant surveillance by Big Brother (NSA, NRO, Homeland Security, etc...) are we truly a land of the free?

In retrospect, the genie was let out of the bottle. We embraced 1984 and there is no going back. This all seems like a war perpetrated on the American People.

By: CM Collins

CM Collins — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:49:00 +0000

That's it? Froth at the mouth. I should apologize to Frum.

By: RJ Rafferty

RJ Rafferty — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:19:37 +0000

I do not call PCR an America-hater because of the wrong-headedness of his views. Whatever Leahy and Eisenhower thought about the nuking of Japan (and I put Cousins' quote about MacArthur in the same category as Woodward's quote from the dying CIA director) they did not leap to the defense of America's enemies, they did not froth at the mouth as they heaped scorn and contempt ad rempublicam. Supposedly PCR is a syndicated conservative columnist. He don't sound like no paleo or neo that I've ever read and I would be very much interested in learning what newspapers and journals consider his diet of bilge worth consuming.

By: Allen Wilson

Allen Wilson — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:55:15 +0000

Since we're on the subject of traffic violations, how about the fact that speed traps are a big scam and rip off? I was written one last week, the first one in twenty years, for driving the same speed that people normally do in that area, and slower than cops often do. A couple days later, I went throught there again at the same speed, and found that two cars ahead were pulling away, one behind was closing in, etc, with a cop driving right along with the flow.

I'm not saying that we should be able to drive like lunatics, but something needs to be done about the racket. I was not driving unsafely, and as the no less than four patrol cars that ganged in sped away, they must have been going faster than I was fined for.

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:00:55 +0000

@13 Richard and @14 Etienne. Don't suppose that I am so gullible as not to think there are abuses by dimwitted judges and programmed police that need constitutional correction. Your DWI examples are hardly what I was referring to. Rather, turn your attention to the cop-killer suspect in Washington who was free on bail following rape and assault charges despite a long career of criminal activity and abuse of the system. Those police officers are the victims of defense lawyers and a bleeding-heart justice system. I've had experiences with smart-aleck cops (speeding) that cause me never to accept automatically a policeman's word. In fact I was recently excluded from a jury for answering "no" to the DA's question as to whether I thought a policeman's testimony would be more truthful than an ordinary citizen's. So I don't mean to brush off your travails but you and PCR need to paint with a less broad brush when defending defense lawyers.

By: Gilbert Jacobi

Gilbert Jacobi — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:40:21 +0000

ROBERTS is right about the damage this trial will do to American jurisprudence, but does not see the broader, anti-American and anti-white aims of this administration, which I outlined in my first post on the "Is America A Serious Nation?" thread. As for his excusing of Lindh, who was caught Kalishnikov in hand, shooting at Americans, and his plea on behalf of "innocent" people giving to charities that support Hamas, this just further deepens my suspicion of the man.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:35:14 +0000

I don't think PCR is an America hater but I think his hatred for those in charge of America makes his writing a bit hyperbolic at times.

By: John Seiler

John Seiler — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:17:26 +0000

#25, Rafferty, is amusing. Someone is not an "America hater" if he believe it was wrong to incinerate more than 100,000 people, mostly women, children, and old men, in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Just war theory, to which America subscribes, bans such outrages. And here are the comments of other "America haters": GENERAL DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER: "...in [July] 1945... Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. ...the Secretary, upon giving me the news of the successful bomb test in New Mexico, and of the plan for using it, asked for my reaction, apparently expecting a vigorous assent. "During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude...." - Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate For Change, pg. 380 "...the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing." - Ike on Ike, Newsweek, 11/11/63 ADMIRAL WILLIAM D. LEAHY (Chief of Staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman) "It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons. "The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children." - William Leahy, I Was There, pg. 441. GENERAL DOUGLAS MACARTHUR: "MacArthur's views about the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were starkly different from what the general public supposed. When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked, would his advice have been? He replied that he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor." Norman Cousins, The Pathology of Power, pg. 65, 70-71. Cousins was a consultant to General MacArthur during the American occupation of Japan.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:39:03 +0000

"No judge or juror wants to be forever damned by the brainwashed American public or assassinated by right-wing crazies."

He seems to parallel the left's belief that there's a bunch of foaming at the mouth, right-wingnuts ready to pounce at any moment.

By: CM Collins

CM Collins — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:24:04 +0000

I love these guys who are sorry for opposing arguments that haven't been made, positions not taken, etc. I refer, of course, to 'America-hater.' Mrs. Frum, call the office, someone's pilfering your husband's schtick.