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		<title>By: Ed Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/08/11/angry-white-men/comment-page-1/#comment-192593</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also, in 1996, Pat Buchanan came up with the great idea of a president refusing to enforce Roe, declaring it unconstitutional — thus throwing the matter back to the states, at least until a new president reversed the action. Bush didn’t do it.&quot;

  Examine the premise behind that idea: that a Supreme Court ruling becomes law and may be enforced as though it were an actual statute approved by Congress.

  The Supreme Court has no authority to legislate.  The doctrine of stare decisis does not nullify the Constitution.  That legal doctrine, which is useful to a sitting judge who needs an excuse to make an attorney stop trying to replow legal ground is not law.  It is a subterfuge by which judges have managed to legislate from their benches.

  The decision of a court on a lawsuit is binding only on parties to the suit.  To assume otherwise is to overturn the US Constitution itself, which grants the power to legislate solely to the legislative branch.

  Roe v Wade is not statutory law and must not be treated as though it were.  Until the Constitution is amended, the states still have the authority to legislate on abortion, independent of the federal courts and of Congress.

  If the president is to enforce the ruling in Roe v Wade, he may only enforce it upon parties to the suit itself. Pretending otherwise has been the means by which we have been duped into believing that court rulings become settled law, binding upon all people within the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Also, in 1996, Pat Buchanan came up with the great idea of a president refusing to enforce Roe, declaring it unconstitutional — thus throwing the matter back to the states, at least until a new president reversed the action. Bush didn’t do it."</p>
<p>  Examine the premise behind that idea: that a Supreme Court ruling becomes law and may be enforced as though it were an actual statute approved by Congress.</p>
<p>  The Supreme Court has no authority to legislate.  The doctrine of stare decisis does not nullify the Constitution.  That legal doctrine, which is useful to a sitting judge who needs an excuse to make an attorney stop trying to replow legal ground is not law.  It is a subterfuge by which judges have managed to legislate from their benches.</p>
<p>  The decision of a court on a lawsuit is binding only on parties to the suit.  To assume otherwise is to overturn the US Constitution itself, which grants the power to legislate solely to the legislative branch.</p>
<p>  Roe v Wade is not statutory law and must not be treated as though it were.  Until the Constitution is amended, the states still have the authority to legislate on abortion, independent of the federal courts and of Congress.</p>
<p>  If the president is to enforce the ruling in Roe v Wade, he may only enforce it upon parties to the suit itself. Pretending otherwise has been the means by which we have been duped into believing that court rulings become settled law, binding upon all people within the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Whitmoore</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/08/11/angry-white-men/comment-page-1/#comment-192585</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Whitmoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Wilson, 

Lest we forget, It took only 44 years to go from Goldwater to McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Wilson, </p>
<p>Lest we forget, It took only 44 years to go from Goldwater to McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/08/11/angry-white-men/comment-page-1/#comment-192579</link>
		<dc:creator>Clyde Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is, that as long as the Republican party exists there can be no genuine opposition party to the Democrat majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, that as long as the Republican party exists there can be no genuine opposition party to the Democrat majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Bass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not generalizing about Mr. Di Lorenzo.  I have not yet read his latest book, but I have read innumerable articles of his on several sites and I have read his books on Lincoln, as well as a book he co-authored for Cato in the 80s on how the government funds the left. I don&#039;t think he would have taken what I wrote as a criticism, in which spirit it was not intended anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not generalizing about Mr. Di Lorenzo.  I have not yet read his latest book, but I have read innumerable articles of his on several sites and I have read his books on Lincoln, as well as a book he co-authored for Cato in the 80s on how the government funds the left. I don't think he would have taken what I wrote as a criticism, in which spirit it was not intended anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: polemicscat</title>
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		<dc:creator>polemicscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>27 Mr. Bass, one shouldn&#039;t be quick to generalize about DiLorenzo without reading his book.  I don&#039;t think he uses the word &quot;socialism&quot; once in the entire book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>27 Mr. Bass, one shouldn't be quick to generalize about DiLorenzo without reading his book.  I don't think he uses the word "socialism" once in the entire book.</p>
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		<title>By: polemicscat</title>
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		<dc:creator>polemicscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why all the scalp hunting of Republicans?  In case some people on this site don&#039;t follow the news, Republicans don&#039;t have a majority in either House or Senate. The current president is not a Republican.

If it matters, I have been registered Independent my entire adult life and I&#039;m over seventy years old.  So I don&#039;t have a dog in the battle of parties. I am interested strictly in issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why all the scalp hunting of Republicans?  In case some people on this site don't follow the news, Republicans don't have a majority in either House or Senate. The current president is not a Republican.</p>
<p>If it matters, I have been registered Independent my entire adult life and I'm over seventy years old.  So I don't have a dog in the battle of parties. I am interested strictly in issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Bass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be fair, Dr. Wilson, to posit that the Republicans occasionally (at least) fake a rear-guard action in order to engage in an avant-garde action?  To, for instance, leave (ugh) no child behind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be fair, Dr. Wilson, to posit that the Republicans occasionally (at least) fake a rear-guard action in order to engage in an avant-garde action?  To, for instance, leave (ugh) no child behind?</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Bass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Polemicscat.  We are in substantial agreement.  And I am altogether with those who find the GOP hopeless at best.  I believe Dr. Fleming addresses these issues quite satisfactorily in his healthcare article, including a difference (which Mr. Di Lorenzo, whatever his many virtues would not admit of) between welfare measures and socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Polemicscat.  We are in substantial agreement.  And I am altogether with those who find the GOP hopeless at best.  I believe Dr. Fleming addresses these issues quite satisfactorily in his healthcare article, including a difference (which Mr. Di Lorenzo, whatever his many virtues would not admit of) between welfare measures and socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: polemicscat</title>
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		<dc:creator>polemicscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 The short answer to your original question is that a line cannot be drawn to everyone&#039;s satisfaction. Any legislation that takes the rights of the individual citizen and gives government additional power over citizens is a step in the direction of a socialist state.  All of the programs you name infringe on the rights of citizens to some degree.

Some people are willing to surrender much of their freedom to a strong central government.  They are tempted to do so usually in return for some kind of security -- or the promise of that security--- usually in the form of material goods.  It is the kind of  security a child has under the control of parents. 

Others resist the tendency of government to take away their liberties, knowing that the power of government can be oppressive and that once government has  powers over citizens, it almost never relinquishes them.  Moreover, people in government can&#039;t be said to be more capable of running citizens&#039; affairs than the citizens themselves.  They are subject to all the vices of ordinary people.  Jefferson said something like, if people can&#039;t manage their business where will they find angels to do it for them.  

But worse than that, politicians enjoy exercising  power over other people.  That&#039;s true of virtually every politician. So a politician should be given as little power as possible.  Jefferson again: the government that governs best governs least.  We might give a great deal of power to a government led by a highly virtuous person, but what is to be done when a less than virtuous person assumes that enormous power?  

Thomas DiLorenzo&#039;s book, Hamilton&#039;s Curse, is a good look at two of the founding fathers:  Hamilton who wanted a powerful central government and Jefferson who understood the dangers inherent in that kind of government.  Unfortunately, American history is the story of the unrelenting loss of individual liberty to a central government.  The Constitution is now only a shadow of the original document.  Although the Tenth Amendment forbids it, Congress now passes laws on any subject it wishes.  And the Supreme Court, instead of upholding the Constitution, plays a big part in its destruction. Presidents Bush and Obama openly ridicule the idea that the Constitution matters.  Yet they like every President and member of Congress in our history took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 The short answer to your original question is that a line cannot be drawn to everyone's satisfaction. Any legislation that takes the rights of the individual citizen and gives government additional power over citizens is a step in the direction of a socialist state.  All of the programs you name infringe on the rights of citizens to some degree.</p>
<p>Some people are willing to surrender much of their freedom to a strong central government.  They are tempted to do so usually in return for some kind of security -- or the promise of that security--- usually in the form of material goods.  It is the kind of  security a child has under the control of parents. </p>
<p>Others resist the tendency of government to take away their liberties, knowing that the power of government can be oppressive and that once government has  powers over citizens, it almost never relinquishes them.  Moreover, people in government can't be said to be more capable of running citizens' affairs than the citizens themselves.  They are subject to all the vices of ordinary people.  Jefferson said something like, if people can't manage their business where will they find angels to do it for them.  </p>
<p>But worse than that, politicians enjoy exercising  power over other people.  That's true of virtually every politician. So a politician should be given as little power as possible.  Jefferson again: the government that governs best governs least.  We might give a great deal of power to a government led by a highly virtuous person, but what is to be done when a less than virtuous person assumes that enormous power?  </p>
<p>Thomas DiLorenzo's book, Hamilton's Curse, is a good look at two of the founding fathers:  Hamilton who wanted a powerful central government and Jefferson who understood the dangers inherent in that kind of government.  Unfortunately, American history is the story of the unrelenting loss of individual liberty to a central government.  The Constitution is now only a shadow of the original document.  Although the Tenth Amendment forbids it, Congress now passes laws on any subject it wishes.  And the Supreme Court, instead of upholding the Constitution, plays a big part in its destruction. Presidents Bush and Obama openly ridicule the idea that the Constitution matters.  Yet they like every President and member of Congress in our history took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clyde Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21.  The GOP is not even fighting a rear-guard action, only occasionally faking one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21.  The GOP is not even fighting a rear-guard action, only occasionally faking one.</p>
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