Comments on: Substandard: The End of an Illusion http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/ Your home for traditional conservatism. Thu, 24 May 2012 15:33:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Derek Leaberry http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192244 Derek Leaberry Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:10:08 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192244 By the way, Victor Davis Hanson was in Greece at the same time as Dr. Fleming. Any chance you crossed paths? Maybe engage in "a war like no other." By the way, Victor Davis Hanson was in Greece at the same time as Dr. Fleming. Any chance you crossed paths? Maybe engage in "a war like no other."

]]> By: TJF http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192225 TJF Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:28:11 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192225 Thanks, John, for your understanding. We used to do something called Main Street Memorandum, which was designed to advertise and promote TRI activities. We did not print things we disagreed with, but it did not reflect our ordinary standards of thought and discourse. And yes, friend Steve (from the Antipodes, as I recall), we have met more than once and I have always known who you really are. We have ways, as the Nazis always say in the movies. Back in the office from Greece and none too happy about it. Athens was blazing hot, but I think I'd rather perish from the heat in Athens than enjoy the cool wave that hit the Midwest but, for my benefit, is now ending. How damp it is here. Thanks, John, for your understanding. We used to do something called Main Street Memorandum, which was designed to advertise and promote TRI activities. We did not print things we disagreed with, but it did not reflect our ordinary standards of thought and discourse. And yes, friend Steve (from the Antipodes, as I recall), we have met more than once and I have always known who you really are. We have ways, as the Nazis always say in the movies.

Back in the office from Greece and none too happy about it. Athens was blazing hot, but I think I'd rather perish from the heat in Athens than enjoy the cool wave that hit the Midwest but, for my benefit, is now ending. How damp it is here.

]]> By: John Willson http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192216 John Willson Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:26:22 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192216 Tom, I accept fully what you say in #15 above, and I doubt that anybody really familiar with Hillsdale would have taken offense in the first place. Imprimis has at times in its past been a rather serious publication, reflecting what at times have been serious on-campus seminars. But it was intended from the beginning to be a vehicle to advertise Hillsdale College's position in the academic universe, and to help round up donors and students in such a way as to help the college realize some very serious academic goals. It is distributed, free, and the mailing list is guarded carefully; and it has done its job. But this isn't about Hillsdale, it's about TWS, and you have sunk the nail into that one with a mighty blow. Tom, I accept fully what you say in #15 above, and I doubt that anybody really familiar with Hillsdale would have taken offense in the first place. Imprimis has at times in its past been a rather serious publication, reflecting what at times have been serious on-campus seminars. But it was intended from the beginning to be a vehicle to advertise Hillsdale College's position in the academic universe, and to help round up donors and students in such a way as to help the college realize some very serious academic goals. It is distributed, free, and the mailing list is guarded carefully; and it has done its job. But this isn't about Hillsdale, it's about TWS, and you have sunk the nail into that one with a mighty blow.

]]> By: Etienne Gervaise http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192194 Etienne Gervaise Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:29:06 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192194 Dr Fleming, we have met at JRC functions and I have read Imprimis, but not so much recently since they have taken to pandering to neocon giants like William Bennett. When it arrives at my home each month, I place it in the downstairs bathroom for some light reading should the need arise. I have also visited the campus of Hillsdale and find it a very pleasant learning environment. My children were not interested in attending college anywhere and my interest in the college has waned. Dr Fleming, we have met at JRC functions and I have read Imprimis, but not so much recently since they have taken to pandering to neocon giants like William Bennett. When it arrives at my home each month, I place it in the downstairs bathroom for some light reading should the need arise. I have also visited the campus of Hillsdale and find it a very pleasant learning environment. My children were not interested in attending college anywhere and my interest in the college has waned.

]]> By: Etienne Gervaise http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192193 Etienne Gervaise Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:16:32 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192193 For some bizarre reason a few years ago I was invited to a Federalist Society luncheon speech at a restaurant in DC's Chinatown. I happened to be across the street on other business and went to hear their guest speaker -- an editor from the Weekly Standard -- some non-entity whose name is not worth remembering. I asked him, "when will your magazine run a story about sample selection methods used by pollsters?" He waffled around the subject, probably because he was not familiar with any question that began neither with a sermon nor a how-do-you-feel-about. Dissatisfied with his pathetic excuse of an answer I got nasty and said "would you like me to repeat the question because I don't think you understood me?" The moderator cut off all further discussion after that, but it told me all I needed to know about the quality of TWS's investigative reporters. I'm glad their gone! Good riddance to bad rubbish. For some bizarre reason a few years ago I was invited to a Federalist Society luncheon speech at a restaurant in DC's Chinatown. I happened to be across the street on other business and went to hear their guest speaker -- an editor from the Weekly Standard -- some non-entity whose name is not worth remembering.

I asked him, "when will your magazine run a story about sample selection methods used by pollsters?" He waffled around the subject, probably because he was not familiar with any question that began neither with a sermon nor a how-do-you-feel-about. Dissatisfied with his pathetic excuse of an answer I got nasty and said "would you like me to repeat the question because I don't think you understood me?"

The moderator cut off all further discussion after that, but it told me all I needed to know about the quality of TWS's investigative reporters. I'm glad their gone! Good riddance to bad rubbish.

]]> By: Rupert Murdoch Sells The Weekly Standard | Conservative Heritage Times http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192185 Rupert Murdoch Sells The Weekly Standard | Conservative Heritage Times Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:04:47 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192185 [...] I missed this news. This is at least neutral and may be good news. It is hard to imagine the new owner could be any [...] [...] I missed this news. This is at least neutral and may be good news. It is hard to imagine the new owner could be any [...]

]]> By: Red Phillips http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192184 Red Phillips Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:52:50 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192184 I just looked up Philip Anschutz. He is a member of the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, therefore he is probably not a dispensational pre-millennialist for whatever that's worth. Although, in my experience, excessive support for Israel among conservative Christians is not limited to dispy pre-mils. It has become a part of the culture of "mainstream" Christian conservatism regardless of denomination. I just looked up Philip Anschutz. He is a member of the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, therefore he is probably not a dispensational pre-millennialist for whatever that's worth. Although, in my experience, excessive support for Israel among conservative Christians is not limited to dispy pre-mils. It has become a part of the culture of "mainstream" Christian conservatism regardless of denomination.

]]> By: jack bailey http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192175 jack bailey Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:00:42 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192175 Fair enough. I assume that the Neocons were on board within the Bush administration way before the election. It probably rarely happens that the President picks his advisors after the fact. While the Neocon foreign adventures are legend, their domestic policy views are just as odious. A case can be made that they are for big government and some form of socialism as well. With their blunders and inaction, instead of holding the leftist hordes back during their tenure, they have in fact enabled them for their current onslaught. Fair enough. I assume that the Neocons were on board within the Bush administration way before the election. It probably rarely happens that the President picks his advisors after the fact. While the Neocon foreign adventures are legend, their domestic policy views are just as odious. A case can be made that they are for big government and some form of socialism as well. With their blunders and inaction, instead of holding the leftist hordes back during their tenure, they have in fact enabled them for their current onslaught.

]]> By: TJF http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192169 TJF Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:52:14 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192169 I don't know enough about Hillsdale these days to form a judgment. I used to know a number of good people there and wish the college well. Every organization has to put out PR in order to attract and hold a base of donor support. In comparing The Standard with Hillsdale's PR sheet, any insult intended was against TWS. I don't know enough about Hillsdale these days to form a judgment. I used to know a number of good people there and wish the college well. Every organization has to put out PR in order to attract and hold a base of donor support. In comparing The Standard with Hillsdale's PR sheet, any insult intended was against TWS.

]]> By: jack bailey http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/07/29/substandard-the-end-of-an-illusion/comment-page-1/#comment-192165 jack bailey Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:26:25 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=2550#comment-192165 #11. Great article Mr. Fleming. I would be curious to learn more about the downfall of Heritage story. As far as Hillsdale, Imprimis notwithstanding, it's still considered pretty good considering what is out there, or isn't it? #11. Great article Mr. Fleming. I would be curious to learn more about the downfall of Heritage story. As far as Hillsdale, Imprimis notwithstanding, it's still considered pretty good considering what is out there, or isn't it?

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