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		<title>By: Robert Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 01:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow the Italian President gets nailed by a bishops council for not being multicultural!!!!! Pretty hard to win the battle for Western Civilization when one of the founding pillars of that civilization(The Church) is supporting Marxist doctrine. Western Civ and the Church is making its own noose indeed!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow the Italian President gets nailed by a bishops council for not being multicultural!!!!! Pretty hard to win the battle for Western Civilization when one of the founding pillars of that civilization(The Church) is supporting Marxist doctrine. Western Civ and the Church is making its own noose indeed!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Breisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Breisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 02:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The government can and will raise our taxes,  fight unjustifiable wars of aggression, and flood the country with immigrants, but it cannot, without our complicity, rob us of our identity and historical memory.&quot;  Wow, so, so true. 

In the end forced multiculturalism through immigration will fail, because diversity is not our strength.  The government&#039;s giant social engineering program is a disaster but it will not end until the government implodes, as happened with the Soviet Union. Until that happens we will continue to struggle, but perhaps then we can find out who we are again...as Russia is starting to discover.

I don&#039;t think the color issue would be an important issue if the government would get out of the way.

Read Chronicles and go The Rockford Institute Summer School of The Old West, as TJF suggests.

I live in Cody, Wyoming and it&#039;s still a wonderful place.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The government can and will raise our taxes,  fight unjustifiable wars of aggression, and flood the country with immigrants, but it cannot, without our complicity, rob us of our identity and historical memory."  Wow, so, so true. </p>
<p>In the end forced multiculturalism through immigration will fail, because diversity is not our strength.  The government's giant social engineering program is a disaster but it will not end until the government implodes, as happened with the Soviet Union. Until that happens we will continue to struggle, but perhaps then we can find out who we are again...as Russia is starting to discover.</p>
<p>I don't think the color issue would be an important issue if the government would get out of the way.</p>
<p>Read Chronicles and go The Rockford Institute Summer School of The Old West, as TJF suggests.</p>
<p>I live in Cody, Wyoming and it's still a wonderful place.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clyde Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 22:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean @ 38.  It is not a matter of &quot;immigrants showing up at places like North Carolina ....&quot;  Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia are literally being hispanicised, with close to 10 per cent Mexican population and growing. And these are States that until now have had some remnants of a real culture and identity to preserve, unlike New York, Illinois, etc.  Forget Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean @ 38.  It is not a matter of "immigrants showing up at places like North Carolina ...."  Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia are literally being hispanicised, with close to 10 per cent Mexican population and growing. And these are States that until now have had some remnants of a real culture and identity to preserve, unlike New York, Illinois, etc.  Forget Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: TJF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have visited Clear Creek, and it is an inspiration.  The people who have filtered into the area have done so not in any  vain expectation of creating a New Jerusalem, but out of a desire to spend more time with  people who share their faith and to be able to attend mass regularly.  Next month in France, I shall go to visit Fontgombault, which set up Clear Creek, and we intend to devote the December issue to a variety of attempts to maintain traditions--Protestant and Orthodox as well as Catholic--without creating a sect of cult.  

I thank &quot;Antipodes&quot; for his kind words.  Ancient Greek is, perhaps, my best second language, but I struggle with the modern, which I only started trying to learn a few years ago.  I try to visit Greece every year and meet with the few people who know of my existence there.  What most classicists find a bit off-putting about Greece--its Balkan qualities--are a pleasure for someone who has spent so much time in Serbia and Montenegro.  I don&#039;t know a more nice set of people than the Greeks I have met and if I could ever get the hang of the language, Greece would be among my first choices as a destination.  

I understand why people want to speak about what my late friend Sam Francis liked to refer to as &quot;white racial consciousness,&quot; and  I suppose for some it might be a tool of liberation.  But there are better ways to spend your time and energy than in looking for a white power group.  Want a club?  Try the Alliance Française or take a class in Greek or Latin or devote some time to reading the English classics.  Come to The Rockford Institute Summer School on the Old West, if you want to meet up with good people and read about some really tough white guys.  Believe me, Ranger Leander McNelly would have wiped up a whole room full of street thugs all by  himself, to say nothing of such peaceful gentlemen as Wes Hardin or Jesse James.  For students and young teachers, we have some scholarship money.  I know, I know.  You cannot take time off, find the money, or just want to wait another year.  Take this from an old man who heard it from someone who heard it from a dying old man:  It is not so much the things you did wrong you regret in old age as the things you failed to do.  

Every American man should adopt Crockett&#039;s motto: Be sure you are right, then go ahead.   On the last night of the first time I took my  wife and kids to Italy, my wife sighed and said, &quot;How wonderful it has been, a once in a lifetime experience.  I told her this was nonsense, that I would be back in less than a year and every year after that.  And so it has been, because I made the opportunities by doing enough work and study that someone would pay a poor writer to travel.  Our young friend in France Mr. Moses has also found his promised land.  I think of a tinny song of the late Richard Farina, &quot;No use crying, talking to a stranger, naming the sorrow you&#039;ve seen.  Too many bad times, too many sad times, nobody knows what you mean....&quot;  So what if the world has gone to Hell:  You don&#039;t have to go with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have visited Clear Creek, and it is an inspiration.  The people who have filtered into the area have done so not in any  vain expectation of creating a New Jerusalem, but out of a desire to spend more time with  people who share their faith and to be able to attend mass regularly.  Next month in France, I shall go to visit Fontgombault, which set up Clear Creek, and we intend to devote the December issue to a variety of attempts to maintain traditions--Protestant and Orthodox as well as Catholic--without creating a sect of cult.  </p>
<p>I thank "Antipodes" for his kind words.  Ancient Greek is, perhaps, my best second language, but I struggle with the modern, which I only started trying to learn a few years ago.  I try to visit Greece every year and meet with the few people who know of my existence there.  What most classicists find a bit off-putting about Greece--its Balkan qualities--are a pleasure for someone who has spent so much time in Serbia and Montenegro.  I don't know a more nice set of people than the Greeks I have met and if I could ever get the hang of the language, Greece would be among my first choices as a destination.  </p>
<p>I understand why people want to speak about what my late friend Sam Francis liked to refer to as "white racial consciousness," and  I suppose for some it might be a tool of liberation.  But there are better ways to spend your time and energy than in looking for a white power group.  Want a club?  Try the Alliance Française or take a class in Greek or Latin or devote some time to reading the English classics.  Come to The Rockford Institute Summer School on the Old West, if you want to meet up with good people and read about some really tough white guys.  Believe me, Ranger Leander McNelly would have wiped up a whole room full of street thugs all by  himself, to say nothing of such peaceful gentlemen as Wes Hardin or Jesse James.  For students and young teachers, we have some scholarship money.  I know, I know.  You cannot take time off, find the money, or just want to wait another year.  Take this from an old man who heard it from someone who heard it from a dying old man:  It is not so much the things you did wrong you regret in old age as the things you failed to do.  </p>
<p>Every American man should adopt Crockett's motto: Be sure you are right, then go ahead.   On the last night of the first time I took my  wife and kids to Italy, my wife sighed and said, "How wonderful it has been, a once in a lifetime experience.  I told her this was nonsense, that I would be back in less than a year and every year after that.  And so it has been, because I made the opportunities by doing enough work and study that someone would pay a poor writer to travel.  Our young friend in France Mr. Moses has also found his promised land.  I think of a tinny song of the late Richard Farina, "No use crying, talking to a stranger, naming the sorrow you've seen.  Too many bad times, too many sad times, nobody knows what you mean...."  So what if the world has gone to Hell:  You don't have to go with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Scallon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Scallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words one and all. To answer Chris&#039; question, the percentage of whites who sit down and consider the ways being a minority would impact them is about 1%, especially if they live in a gated community or a retirement colony or in areas still overwhelmingly white. Immigration as a topic grew in volume because such immigrants were showing up in places like North Carolina, Georgia, Arkansas and Kansas, instead of California, New York and Illinois. However, how people judge its impact still depends on where you live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words one and all. To answer Chris' question, the percentage of whites who sit down and consider the ways being a minority would impact them is about 1%, especially if they live in a gated community or a retirement colony or in areas still overwhelmingly white. Immigration as a topic grew in volume because such immigrants were showing up in places like North Carolina, Georgia, Arkansas and Kansas, instead of California, New York and Illinois. However, how people judge its impact still depends on where you live.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Immigration is only a local problem in so far as most people only assess the impact of immigration on the basis of how it affects them personally. If the Mexicans work at the abbatoir and keep to themselves why would someone complain? What proportion of the population do you think would sit down and consider all the ways in which white Americans becoming a minority would impact them and their children? Of course, it will become a national issue at some point after whites become a minority and all the implications that that entails.

With regard to Dr Fleming&#039;s caricature about racially conscious whites who might place their skin colour over friendship (or other such personal decisions), I think very few of such people would ever do such a thing. Racially conscious whites merely recognise that those people of European Christian heritage have common political interests in the same way as other groups and wish to take action to defend and further those interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Immigration is only a local problem in so far as most people only assess the impact of immigration on the basis of how it affects them personally. If the Mexicans work at the abbatoir and keep to themselves why would someone complain? What proportion of the population do you think would sit down and consider all the ways in which white Americans becoming a minority would impact them and their children? Of course, it will become a national issue at some point after whites become a minority and all the implications that that entails.</p>
<p>With regard to Dr Fleming's caricature about racially conscious whites who might place their skin colour over friendship (or other such personal decisions), I think very few of such people would ever do such a thing. Racially conscious whites merely recognise that those people of European Christian heritage have common political interests in the same way as other groups and wish to take action to defend and further those interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Leaberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Leaberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For 4-year old Josie Bluhm of Omaha, Nebraska, America&#039;s illegal immigration controversy turned deadly last night as she was killed by an illegal alien Eleazar Rangel-Ochoa, driving with a suspended license.  Rangel-Ochoa&#039;s license had been suspended in 2003 after his third DUI offense.  Drunk driving is a favorite activity of our neighbors south of the Rio Grande.  Certainly much of the blame for this poor girl&#039;s death eighty years ahead of time can be laid on the shoulders of the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the staff of the Weekly Standard, George W. Bush and John McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For 4-year old Josie Bluhm of Omaha, Nebraska, America's illegal immigration controversy turned deadly last night as she was killed by an illegal alien Eleazar Rangel-Ochoa, driving with a suspended license.  Rangel-Ochoa's license had been suspended in 2003 after his third DUI offense.  Drunk driving is a favorite activity of our neighbors south of the Rio Grande.  Certainly much of the blame for this poor girl's death eighty years ahead of time can be laid on the shoulders of the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the staff of the Weekly Standard, George W. Bush and John McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean@30
 This piece of yours should be published as &quot;A companion to Mr. Amtley&#039;s Strategy for the GOP.&quot; Thanks for psoting it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean@30<br />
 This piece of yours should be published as "A companion to Mr. Amtley's Strategy for the GOP." Thanks for psoting it here.</p>
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		<title>By: TJF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sean, for your wise commentary.  As for the assertions made about whiteness, I continue to be amazed at the way in which people refuse to think or even read.  Of course whiteness is part of reality, because race is a reality.  Who here said it was not?  I suppose I have read a good deal more racialist theory than most people who write in, but the question is not whether being white makes a difference, but how are we to lead our lives?  If the abstract quality of being white is more important to you than the reality of friendship, then I can only say I hope you live long enough to learn better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sean, for your wise commentary.  As for the assertions made about whiteness, I continue to be amazed at the way in which people refuse to think or even read.  Of course whiteness is part of reality, because race is a reality.  Who here said it was not?  I suppose I have read a good deal more racialist theory than most people who write in, but the question is not whether being white makes a difference, but how are we to lead our lives?  If the abstract quality of being white is more important to you than the reality of friendship, then I can only say I hope you live long enough to learn better.</p>
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		<title>By: Some articles for your consideration.. &#124; Conservative Heritage Times</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some articles for your consideration.. &#124; Conservative Heritage Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chronicles magazine is taking up the immigration question again leading in with a good online piece by Dr. Feming on the subject.  &#124;  &#124;  &#124;  &#124;  &#124;  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chronicles magazine is taking up the immigration question again leading in with a good online piece by Dr. Feming on the subject.  |  |  |  |  |  [...]</p>
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