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	<title>Comments on: We&#8217;re Shocked, Shocked! To Find David Frum Engaging in Character Assassination</title>
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		<title>By: robert alpert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert alpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the left: I cannot think of two more wretched blowhards than Frum and Limbaugh. Frum has attacked Chronicles repeatedly and may I say with cro magnon intelligence. Rush Limbaugh is beyond wretched--he once supported Pat Buchanan a most honorable man--and then dumped him. One post remarks &quot;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&quot; but I would urge the writer not to be deceived. Limbaugh has no honor and would easily were it to his advantage become what I call a &quot;neo-liberal&quot;. I do like the idea of Frum and Limbaugh fighting a duel; however do not be deceived neither are Col. Brandon. Both are some decayed form of Willoughby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the left: I cannot think of two more wretched blowhards than Frum and Limbaugh. Frum has attacked Chronicles repeatedly and may I say with cro magnon intelligence. Rush Limbaugh is beyond wretched--he once supported Pat Buchanan a most honorable man--and then dumped him. One post remarks "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" but I would urge the writer not to be deceived. Limbaugh has no honor and would easily were it to his advantage become what I call a "neo-liberal". I do like the idea of Frum and Limbaugh fighting a duel; however do not be deceived neither are Col. Brandon. Both are some decayed form of Willoughby.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Leaberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Leaberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marciano, I think David Frum&#039;s Kempian view on race might be altered if he switched his habitation from Foxhall Road in upper Northwest Washington with views of the Potomac River to Minnesota Avenue or Benning Road in Southeast Washington with views of the mighty Anacostia River.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marciano, I think David Frum's Kempian view on race might be altered if he switched his habitation from Foxhall Road in upper Northwest Washington with views of the Potomac River to Minnesota Avenue or Benning Road in Southeast Washington with views of the mighty Anacostia River.</p>
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		<title>By: Maciano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maciano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How interesting that Frum minds words over actions.

He&#039;s one of the core neocons who wanted the US to go to war with Iraq, doing his bit by terming the &#039;axis of evil&#039;-phrase and crappy books titled &#039;an end to evil&#039;. I don&#039;t have to tell anyone here about the consequences of that (mass killings, chaos, billions of money lost, ethnic cleansing, torture,...) 

But don&#039;t be fooled by the support for all of this ruthlessness, deep down there&#039;s kind, gentle soul inside who&#039;s very concerned about racist comments against people of colour (no matter how privileged they are and how much they use their race for their career.)

&quot;Sometimes, he [Rush] talks that way.  I don’t know whether it’s conscious art, but I went through how many times between inauguration day to the present that he’s made a comment about President Obama being invulnerable to criticism because of his race. I found five instances ... one a week. That’s sort of a lot.&quot;

Think about that. Frum is morally responsible for a war that&#039;s bleeding the US and the Middle East respectively financially and literally, but he&#039;s more concerned nowadays with Rush Limbaugh&#039;s occasional crimethink. Real crimes go unpunished, thought crimes are on the front cover of Newsweek Magazine. How shameless.

What a complete and utter failure of a human being Frum is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How interesting that Frum minds words over actions.</p>
<p>He's one of the core neocons who wanted the US to go to war with Iraq, doing his bit by terming the 'axis of evil'-phrase and crappy books titled 'an end to evil'. I don't have to tell anyone here about the consequences of that (mass killings, chaos, billions of money lost, ethnic cleansing, torture,...) </p>
<p>But don't be fooled by the support for all of this ruthlessness, deep down there's kind, gentle soul inside who's very concerned about racist comments against people of colour (no matter how privileged they are and how much they use their race for their career.)</p>
<p>"Sometimes, he [Rush] talks that way.  I don’t know whether it’s conscious art, but I went through how many times between inauguration day to the present that he’s made a comment about President Obama being invulnerable to criticism because of his race. I found five instances ... one a week. That’s sort of a lot."</p>
<p>Think about that. Frum is morally responsible for a war that's bleeding the US and the Middle East respectively financially and literally, but he's more concerned nowadays with Rush Limbaugh's occasional crimethink. Real crimes go unpunished, thought crimes are on the front cover of Newsweek Magazine. How shameless.</p>
<p>What a complete and utter failure of a human being Frum is.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limbaugh was not always wealthy.  Despite both his father and grandfather being attorneys, he shunned college and worked in radio and for the Kansas City Royals.  He regularly recalls his down-and-out days with a certain fondness.  And the man who gave him syndicated fame, Edward F. McLaughlin of EFM Communications, is (or at least was) a proud liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limbaugh was not always wealthy.  Despite both his father and grandfather being attorneys, he shunned college and worked in radio and for the Kansas City Royals.  He regularly recalls his down-and-out days with a certain fondness.  And the man who gave him syndicated fame, Edward F. McLaughlin of EFM Communications, is (or at least was) a proud liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hewlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Hewlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huckleberry Finn&#039;s Pap told him to never pass up a chance to steal a chicken, if he couldn&#039;t use it somebody else could.  That is the attitude we should have concerning tax cuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckleberry Finn's Pap told him to never pass up a chance to steal a chicken, if he couldn't use it somebody else could.  That is the attitude we should have concerning tax cuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Sempronius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sempronius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;@24 Why in the world would anybody, remotely on the right, reject tax cuts for any reason? Who cares if they are a panacea? Good heavens, man. Talk about hyperbole. Just to make sure everyone knows you think RL is vulgar?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because a better way of helping humble working Americanos would be some combination of spending restraint,especially with regard to defense and a faulty foreign policy,an end to immigration and labor arbitrage-falsely known as &quot;free trade&quot;-and some form of debt relief for the long suffering working stiff.And thats just for starters.

Mealy-mouthed &quot;tax-cuts&quot; are for the birds.

Beyond that,addressing &lt;i&gt;non-economic&lt;/i&gt; concerns-too numerous to list-would go quite a way towards improving the lot of decent folk;North and South,East and West.Tax cutters tend to neglect so much that doesnt fall within their narrow purview.

RL&#039;s vulgarity is integral to his approach both to economics-classicly,&quot;household management&quot;-as well as broader issues.That is,when broader issues are attended to at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>@24 Why in the world would anybody, remotely on the right, reject tax cuts for any reason? Who cares if they are a panacea? Good heavens, man. Talk about hyperbole. Just to make sure everyone knows you think RL is vulgar?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because a better way of helping humble working Americanos would be some combination of spending restraint,especially with regard to defense and a faulty foreign policy,an end to immigration and labor arbitrage-falsely known as "free trade"-and some form of debt relief for the long suffering working stiff.And thats just for starters.</p>
<p>Mealy-mouthed "tax-cuts" are for the birds.</p>
<p>Beyond that,addressing <i>non-economic</i> concerns-too numerous to list-would go quite a way towards improving the lot of decent folk;North and South,East and West.Tax cutters tend to neglect so much that doesnt fall within their narrow purview.</p>
<p>RL's vulgarity is integral to his approach both to economics-classicly,"household management"-as well as broader issues.That is,when broader issues are attended to at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hewlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Hewlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24  Why in the world would anybody, remotely on the right, reject tax cuts for any reason?  Who cares if they are a panacea?  Good heavens, man.  Talk about hyperbole.  Just to make sure everyone knows you think RL is vulgar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24  Why in the world would anybody, remotely on the right, reject tax cuts for any reason?  Who cares if they are a panacea?  Good heavens, man.  Talk about hyperbole.  Just to make sure everyone knows you think RL is vulgar?</p>
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		<title>By: Sempronius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sempronius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What is the point of making fun of Limbaugh’s weight or whatever? That just comes off as nastiness and like some kind of personal grudge. We need to make principled rightward criticisms of his policies that are not conservative.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a public figure,RL&#039;s persona is fair game.He reeks and drips vulgarity.As for his girth,I was pointing to its emblematic nature.I would also add that,while looks are not relevant to political disputes,freakishness (Lincoln?) is not without legitimate concern.Certainly we all have &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; control over our weight.Is Rush &quot;being the best that he can be?&quot;

As for principled criticism,rejecting tax-cuts as a panacea is a start,no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What is the point of making fun of Limbaugh’s weight or whatever? That just comes off as nastiness and like some kind of personal grudge. We need to make principled rightward criticisms of his policies that are not conservative.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a public figure,RL's persona is fair game.He reeks and drips vulgarity.As for his girth,I was pointing to its emblematic nature.I would also add that,while looks are not relevant to political disputes,freakishness (Lincoln?) is not without legitimate concern.Certainly we all have <i>some</i> control over our weight.Is Rush "being the best that he can be?"</p>
<p>As for principled criticism,rejecting tax-cuts as a panacea is a start,no?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the point of making fun of Limbaugh&#039;s weight or whatever? That just comes off as nastiness and like some kind of personal grudge. We need to make principled rightward criticisms of his policies that are not conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the point of making fun of Limbaugh's weight or whatever? That just comes off as nastiness and like some kind of personal grudge. We need to make principled rightward criticisms of his policies that are not conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Juvenal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juvenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who can stand to listen to Levin has a strong stomach and a tin ear.  His voice alone is a real sign of what this pathetic country has become.  Of course he is an Israel-firster and with good reason, but what is his second priority and his third, certainly not to whatever is left of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who can stand to listen to Levin has a strong stomach and a tin ear.  His voice alone is a real sign of what this pathetic country has become.  Of course he is an Israel-firster and with good reason, but what is his second priority and his third, certainly not to whatever is left of this country.</p>
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