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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God Bless Serdja!  Please tell us where to find your writings!  Your wisdom got me through many a dark day in world affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God Bless Serdja!  Please tell us where to find your writings!  Your wisdom got me through many a dark day in world affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: St. Patrick's Purgatory</title>
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		<dc:creator>St. Patrick's Purgatory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should anyone have more info re. Dr. Trifkovic&#039;s new whereabouts, please share them with this audience.  I have always enjoyed his thoughtful articles and no-nonsense analysis, and I hope to
enjoy them soon again.

God bless you, Dr. Trifkovic.  You are a valiant and much-needed proponent of all that is good (faith, culture, history), and we are all in your debt.

Vale!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should anyone have more info re. Dr. Trifkovic's new whereabouts, please share them with this audience.  I have always enjoyed his thoughtful articles and no-nonsense analysis, and I hope to<br />
enjoy them soon again.</p>
<p>God bless you, Dr. Trifkovic.  You are a valiant and much-needed proponent of all that is good (faith, culture, history), and we are all in your debt.</p>
<p>Vale!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Colucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Colucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is with sadness that I see Dr. Trifkovic is leaving Chronicles.  His articles were much anticipated by me each month.  

I remember meeting him once when he spoke at a John Randolph Conference in Georgetown some years ago. During a break, we both shared some conversation and a cigarette outside the hotel.  He said &quot;Being both a Serb and a smoker, I&#039;m a double pariah.&quot;  What a great line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is with sadness that I see Dr. Trifkovic is leaving Chronicles.  His articles were much anticipated by me each month.  </p>
<p>I remember meeting him once when he spoke at a John Randolph Conference in Georgetown some years ago. During a break, we both shared some conversation and a cigarette outside the hotel.  He said "Being both a Serb and a smoker, I'm a double pariah."  What a great line.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/31/le-dernier-mot-washingtonian-madness/comment-page-2/#comment-185309</link>
		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@72 gargi

The Opium Wars instigated by the evil Sassoon family did China no good.  Communism ended regionalism and united the several states.  In 1957 the Reds took over Tibet who for centuries had raided and oppressed the Han sod-busters.  China is ascendant, and Europe is in decline, and both deserve their place.

@73 H.F. Wolff

It doesn&#039;t show up much in the newspapers, but there are missionaries who run hospitals in Yemen and pay with their lives.  Look anywhere but Washington -- or the newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@72 gargi</p>
<p>The Opium Wars instigated by the evil Sassoon family did China no good.  Communism ended regionalism and united the several states.  In 1957 the Reds took over Tibet who for centuries had raided and oppressed the Han sod-busters.  China is ascendant, and Europe is in decline, and both deserve their place.</p>
<p>@73 H.F. Wolff</p>
<p>It doesn't show up much in the newspapers, but there are missionaries who run hospitals in Yemen and pay with their lives.  Look anywhere but Washington -- or the newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was NPR on the radio.  It just so happened that program was the most interesting thing on as I by-passed Richmond.  I was surprised that a Chinaman would tattle tell on his own nation in that manner.  But other Chinese I know corroborate that statement.  The remark about having a full stomach could just as easily apply to any Euro-westerner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was NPR on the radio.  It just so happened that program was the most interesting thing on as I by-passed Richmond.  I was surprised that a Chinaman would tattle tell on his own nation in that manner.  But other Chinese I know corroborate that statement.  The remark about having a full stomach could just as easily apply to any Euro-westerner.</p>
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		<title>By: H.F. Wolff</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/31/le-dernier-mot-washingtonian-madness/comment-page-2/#comment-185251</link>
		<dc:creator>H.F. Wolff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>70Etienne Gervaise:

&quot;...The Western spirit that pursues freedom and democracy...&quot;

Surely thou jest?

When is the last time you have experienced this spirit?

All I have observed over the last 30-odd years is political correctness and the stifling of free speech.  And our democracy is where the densest cave-dweller has the same say (vote) as an educated, degreed, tax-paying, family man, raising 5 children?

You will forgive me if I fail to see that spirit.

The Chinese, on the other hand, have run a reasonably successful society for what, over 4,000 years?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>70Etienne Gervaise:</p>
<p>"...The Western spirit that pursues freedom and democracy..."</p>
<p>Surely thou jest?</p>
<p>When is the last time you have experienced this spirit?</p>
<p>All I have observed over the last 30-odd years is political correctness and the stifling of free speech.  And our democracy is where the densest cave-dweller has the same say (vote) as an educated, degreed, tax-paying, family man, raising 5 children?</p>
<p>You will forgive me if I fail to see that spirit.</p>
<p>The Chinese, on the other hand, have run a reasonably successful society for what, over 4,000 years?</p>
<p>H.F. Wolff</p>
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		<title>By: gargi</title>
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		<dc:creator>gargi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Etienne Gervaise
&quot;That’s why I have to criticize the personality of Chinese people. Chinese people only demand a full stomach and a peaceful life, not democracy and freedom. Their personality is too weak. The Western spirit that pursues freedom and democracy is scarce in Chinese people.&quot;

I think Chinese are happy to be left alone. They have always been that way throughout history.  Why is this bad? The Chinese have never attacked other countries and have never been imperialists--their meddling in Burma is recent after they became Communist and learned from the West to meddle in other people&#039;s countries and poke their noses where they do not belong.  China has thousands of years of civilization behind it--it might not be the kind of civilization you approve of or like but it is nevertheless their kind of civilization.  What is a few hundred years to a country that old? If they are to advance and regain their lost place in the world, the last two hundred years will probably be seen as a brief period in which the let their country be controlled by outsiders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Etienne Gervaise<br />
"That’s why I have to criticize the personality of Chinese people. Chinese people only demand a full stomach and a peaceful life, not democracy and freedom. Their personality is too weak. The Western spirit that pursues freedom and democracy is scarce in Chinese people."</p>
<p>I think Chinese are happy to be left alone. They have always been that way throughout history.  Why is this bad? The Chinese have never attacked other countries and have never been imperialists--their meddling in Burma is recent after they became Communist and learned from the West to meddle in other people's countries and poke their noses where they do not belong.  China has thousands of years of civilization behind it--it might not be the kind of civilization you approve of or like but it is nevertheless their kind of civilization.  What is a few hundred years to a country that old? If they are to advance and regain their lost place in the world, the last two hundred years will probably be seen as a brief period in which the let their country be controlled by outsiders.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The initially stated point on that subject relating to how wanting to &quot;preserve&quot; symbols isn&#039;t necessarily meant as supporting an active return of them.  This is true as per the results of this previously linked poll: http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/

NGPM

I think we&#039;re understood.  Neocons are certainly to the left in the way you describe. At the same time, among neocons, I sense more left tendencies within that grouping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The initially stated point on that subject relating to how wanting to "preserve" symbols isn't necessarily meant as supporting an active return of them.  This is true as per the results of this previously linked poll: <a href="http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/" rel="nofollow">http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/</a></p>
<p>NGPM</p>
<p>I think we're understood.  Neocons are certainly to the left in the way you describe. At the same time, among neocons, I sense more left tendencies within that grouping.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/31/le-dernier-mot-washingtonian-madness/comment-page-2/#comment-185226</link>
		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Srdja is needed more in China. On a road trip yesterday I stumbled on NPR&#039;s On the Media reporting on a book called Wolf Totem about what&#039;s wrong with the modern Chinese people. 

http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/01/02/03

BROOKE GLADSTONE: In Wolf Totem you offer harsh and constant criticism of the Han Chinese. You write that the Han Chinese are weaker than the Western races because the Western nomadic races handed down their vitality and their intelligence to their descendants. Do I have that right?

JIANG RONG [VIA INTERPRETER]:

Yes, it is. The ancestors of Han were a nomadic nation who were very tough but as they came to the land of China their characteristics changed. 

Among the four great ancient civilizations, the drainage areas of Yangtze River and Yellow River are the world&#039;s biggest farming areas. But agriculture needs peace. The ruling class found that as long as farmers could plow the field, they would be meek, easy to rule. All the ruling classes in Chinese history understood this. And over thousands of years, the Han personality turned meek as sheep.

BROOKE GLADSTONE: You&#039;ve been criticized for equating peacefulness with sheepishness, and the book has also been accused of being both racist and, I think, crypto fascist. What do you think?

JIANG RONG [VIA INTERPRETER]:

I don&#039;t agree. The distinction is not between good and bad, but between weak and tough. I don&#039;t mean China is a bad nation, I mean that its character is weak. It&#039;s proved by thousands of years of history. Otherwise, China would not have been ruled by nomadic minorities for so long, or colonial and semi-colonial society more recently.

That&#039;s why I have to criticize the personality of Chinese people. Chinese people only demand a full stomach and a peaceful life, not democracy and freedom. Their personality is too weak. The Western spirit that pursues freedom and democracy is scarce in Chinese people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Srdja is needed more in China. On a road trip yesterday I stumbled on NPR's On the Media reporting on a book called Wolf Totem about what's wrong with the modern Chinese people. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/01/02/03" rel="nofollow">http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/01/02/03</a></p>
<p>BROOKE GLADSTONE: In Wolf Totem you offer harsh and constant criticism of the Han Chinese. You write that the Han Chinese are weaker than the Western races because the Western nomadic races handed down their vitality and their intelligence to their descendants. Do I have that right?</p>
<p>JIANG RONG [VIA INTERPRETER]:</p>
<p>Yes, it is. The ancestors of Han were a nomadic nation who were very tough but as they came to the land of China their characteristics changed. </p>
<p>Among the four great ancient civilizations, the drainage areas of Yangtze River and Yellow River are the world's biggest farming areas. But agriculture needs peace. The ruling class found that as long as farmers could plow the field, they would be meek, easy to rule. All the ruling classes in Chinese history understood this. And over thousands of years, the Han personality turned meek as sheep.</p>
<p>BROOKE GLADSTONE: You've been criticized for equating peacefulness with sheepishness, and the book has also been accused of being both racist and, I think, crypto fascist. What do you think?</p>
<p>JIANG RONG [VIA INTERPRETER]:</p>
<p>I don't agree. The distinction is not between good and bad, but between weak and tough. I don't mean China is a bad nation, I mean that its character is weak. It's proved by thousands of years of history. Otherwise, China would not have been ruled by nomadic minorities for so long, or colonial and semi-colonial society more recently.</p>
<p>That's why I have to criticize the personality of Chinese people. Chinese people only demand a full stomach and a peaceful life, not democracy and freedom. Their personality is too weak. The Western spirit that pursues freedom and democracy is scarce in Chinese people.</p>
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		<title>By: H.F. Wolff</title>
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		<dc:creator>H.F. Wolff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>67Michael Averko:

&quot;...a good number of Nazi regalia collectors are Jews...&quot;.

And why not, since there were about 150,000 Jewish soldiers and officers in the German armed forces, at least some of them with offspring.

Even many Jews don&#039;t believe the swindle of National Socialist culpability. 

I&#039;m certain my position will attract the ire of Dr Wilson, who berates the North&#039;s version of the civil war, yet denies me the same for WWII with regards to Germany.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>67Michael Averko:</p>
<p>"...a good number of Nazi regalia collectors are Jews...".</p>
<p>And why not, since there were about 150,000 Jewish soldiers and officers in the German armed forces, at least some of them with offspring.</p>
<p>Even many Jews don't believe the swindle of National Socialist culpability. </p>
<p>I'm certain my position will attract the ire of Dr Wilson, who berates the North's version of the civil war, yet denies me the same for WWII with regards to Germany.</p>
<p>H.F. Wolff</p>
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