Comments on: Is It 1982 or 1974? http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/ Your home for traditional conservatism. Thu, 24 May 2012 08:19:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Etienne Gervaise http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183749 Etienne Gervaise Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:26:42 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183749 @67 J Meng If you must know, I'm a construction consultant -- dealing with the paperwork end of things. An entrep[reneur if you will who goes between the construction company and the local government. To quote Office Space -- I have people skills dammit! @68 HF Wolff I do not expect to evade any downturn, but being in Ruburban Washington, downturns are not as bad as they could be elsewhere. I do hedge my bets by planting Norton grapes in my backyard. A local winery will buy everyting I can harvest. @67 J Meng

If you must know, I'm a construction consultant -- dealing with the paperwork end of things. An entrep[reneur if you will who goes between the construction company and the local government. To quote Office Space -- I have people skills dammit!

@68 HF Wolff

I do not expect to evade any downturn, but being in Ruburban Washington, downturns are not as bad as they could be elsewhere. I do hedge my bets by planting Norton grapes in my backyard. A local winery will buy everyting I can harvest.

]]> By: H.F. Wolff http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183699 H.F. Wolff Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:02:09 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183699 65Mr. Stonehouse 66Etienne Gervaise You gentlemen are self-employed... as am I. And I certainly wouldn't have it any other way. However, why do you believe that this economic tsunami will by-pass you? It certainly has begun to impact my revenues but, I saw it coming and made appropriate plans by foregoing major expenditures for the last 2 years. I'd be interested in hearing your views. Thank you. H.F. Wolff 65Mr. Stonehouse
66Etienne Gervaise

You gentlemen are self-employed... as am I.

And I certainly wouldn't have it any other way.

However, why do you believe that this economic tsunami will by-pass you? It certainly has begun to impact my revenues but, I saw it coming and made appropriate plans by foregoing major expenditures for the last 2 years.

I'd be interested in hearing your views. Thank you.

H.F. Wolff

]]> By: J. Meng http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183698 J. Meng Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:59:47 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183698 @66, Etienne Gervaise, In #52 you said you traveled 50,000 miles a year and have 423,000 miles on your Ford Ranger. You are also in business for yourself. If I am intruding, please ignore my questions, but are you in a service oriented business, and if so, what kind of service? Or is it a product you manufacture and sell around the country? @66, Etienne Gervaise,

In #52 you said you traveled 50,000 miles a year and have 423,000 miles on your Ford Ranger. You are also in business for yourself. If I am intruding, please ignore my questions, but are you in a service oriented business, and if so, what kind of service? Or is it a product you manufacture and sell around the country?

]]> By: Etienne Gervaise http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183694 Etienne Gervaise Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:53:13 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183694 @57 Josh ... industrial style factory work is dehumanizing. But the managerial-bureaucratic economy is even worse, it is pure evil. True! I just watched Mike Judge's brilliant movie Office Space last night, and I thank God I chose to become self-employed to escape the sinister office routine. My job was so unfulfilling, and my boss so cowardly, that I knew I'd never be fired. The routine was so impersonal that I was forced to quit of my own volition and make my own way in this cold, cruel world. @57 Josh

... industrial style factory work is dehumanizing. But the managerial-bureaucratic economy is even worse, it is pure evil.

True! I just watched Mike Judge's brilliant movie Office Space last night, and I thank God I chose to become self-employed to escape the sinister office routine. My job was so unfulfilling, and my boss so cowardly, that I knew I'd never be fired. The routine was so impersonal that I was forced to quit of my own volition and make my own way in this cold, cruel world.

]]> By: Mr. Stonehouse http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183533 Mr. Stonehouse Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:30:30 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183533 Mr. Roberts It isn't fear--I am self-employed and secure. I am also surrounded by family and friends who take care of each other. It is sadness for what is happening and what likely lies ahead. Mr. Roberts
It isn't fear--I am self-employed and secure. I am also surrounded by family and friends who take care of each other. It is sadness for what is happening and what likely lies ahead.

]]> By: Scott P. Richert http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183487 Scott P. Richert Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:56:25 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183487 Apparently, Mr. Roberts (@61) lives in an area where the unemployment rate is dropping, rather than rising. Good for him. Some of the rest of us do not. I do not watch the TV news--national or local--but I walk down streets where I see houses that have been on the market for over a year, from which people have simply walked away because they can no longer afford to pay their mortgage(s), having been out of work for far too long. Yes, the news media love to play on fear. But that doesn't mean that what they're reporting is entirely untrue. Apparently, Mr. Roberts (@61) lives in an area where the unemployment rate is dropping, rather than rising. Good for him. Some of the rest of us do not. I do not watch the TV news--national or local--but I walk down streets where I see houses that have been on the market for over a year, from which people have simply walked away because they can no longer afford to pay their mortgage(s), having been out of work for far too long.

Yes, the news media love to play on fear. But that doesn't mean that what they're reporting is entirely untrue.

]]> By: EE Roberts http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183486 EE Roberts Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:30:43 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183486 "The news another 500,000 people lost their jobs last month, bringing the total for the year to two million, makes me sick to my stomach." The sickness is from fear. Fear is what the news media serve up daily. It's a necessary component of the program conducted by the news media to promote the agenda of totalitarian government. Turn off the TV, Mr. Stonehouse. The cloud of fear under which you live will begin to lift soon after you stop allowing the input. "The news another 500,000 people lost their jobs last month, bringing the total for the year to two million, makes me sick to my stomach."

The sickness is from fear. Fear is what the news media serve up daily. It's a necessary component of the program conducted by the news media to promote the agenda of totalitarian government. Turn off the TV, Mr. Stonehouse. The cloud of fear under which you live will begin to lift soon after you stop allowing the input.

]]> By: EE Roberts http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183483 EE Roberts Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:28:43 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183483 "those cheap foreign-made vehicles the “market is god” folks are celebrating won’t be so cheap if the U.S. automakers go under. That means foreign dominance and a loss of liberty." Of course, if the bailout of the big 3 proceeds, the fedgov will gain control of US auto production. Then we can have the worst of both scenarios: the US auto industry going under and increased federal dominance and loss of liberty, life and property. Maybe the slim possibility of "foreign dominance" isn't as scary as it seems to you right now. "those cheap foreign-made vehicles the “market is god” folks are celebrating won’t be so cheap if the U.S. automakers go under. That means foreign dominance and a loss of liberty."

Of course, if the bailout of the big 3 proceeds, the fedgov will gain control of US auto production. Then we can have the worst of both scenarios: the US auto industry going under and increased federal dominance and loss of liberty, life and property. Maybe the slim possibility of "foreign dominance" isn't as scary as it seems to you right now.

]]> By: 1389AD http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183479 1389AD Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:46:21 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183479 It's 1929 for sure, and here's why: <a href="http://1389blog.com/2008/12/09/when-small-men-cast-long-shadows/" rel="nofollow">When small men cast long shadows...</a> It's 1929 for sure, and here's why:

When small men cast long shadows...

]]> By: When small men cast long shadows… — 1389 Blog - Antijihadist Tech http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/12/05/is-it-1982-or-1974/comment-page-2/#comment-183478 When small men cast long shadows… — 1389 Blog - Antijihadist Tech Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:38:33 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=813#comment-183478 [...] And no, it is not possible to sustain a “service economy” without a viable manufacturing... Not that there is a service economy to sustain - the real estate bubble has already burst, the remains of our financial sector are being artificially propped up with money that we do not have and cannot earn, and much of our service sector employment has already been outsourced! [...] [...] And no, it is not possible to sustain a “service economy” without a viable manufacturing... Not that there is a service economy to sustain - the real estate bubble has already burst, the remains of our financial sector are being artificially propped up with money that we do not have and cannot earn, and much of our service sector employment has already been outsourced! [...]

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