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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/11/21/the-no-think-nation/comment-page-2/#comment-182592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will bailing out the big 3 suddenly increase peoples&#039; willingness to buy their cars?  How and why?  And if the bailout won&#039;t increase market demand, the big 3 will burn through the money and be in the same situation in 2 years, so what&#039;s the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will bailing out the big 3 suddenly increase peoples' willingness to buy their cars?  How and why?  And if the bailout won't increase market demand, the big 3 will burn through the money and be in the same situation in 2 years, so what's the point?</p>
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		<title>By: J. Meng</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Meng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27 Leo: I concur with Mr. Roberts and with Mr. Constantine (great name) FitzRoy apropos 9/11.  I&#039;ll go as far to say that the Twin Tower catastrophe has the earmarks of the Pearl Harbor attack in 1941.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27 Leo: I concur with Mr. Roberts and with Mr. Constantine (great name) FitzRoy apropos 9/11.  I'll go as far to say that the Twin Tower catastrophe has the earmarks of the Pearl Harbor attack in 1941.</p>
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		<title>By: Constantine FitzRoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantine FitzRoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo, 

Looking into 9/11 and asking basic questions about it does not make one a crackpot, quite the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo, </p>
<p>Looking into 9/11 and asking basic questions about it does not make one a crackpot, quite the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caveat mutuator!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caveat mutuator!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Salemi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Salemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, small business is fine.  It is the perfectly natural expression of human ingenuity and acquisitiveness, and that sort of capitalism has been around since people climbed out of the trees and began to live in a society.  God bless all small businessmen, and let them prosper.

It&#039;s when things grow huge and monstrous and beyond any human scale that they turn evil.  That is what has happened to us.

I recall reading an account of a stockholders&#039; meeting at some company.  The company had grown by five percent in the previous year, with a corresponding increase in the dividends declared.

You think the stockholders were happy?  Think again.  They screamed &quot;Why did we only grow FIVE percent?  What&#039;s wrong?&quot;

In short, rather than being grateful for the honest return that their business had provided them, the stockholders were dissatisfied that the return wasn&#039;t more.  And I&#039;m certain that if the increase had been ten percent, they would have still screamed out their dissatisfaction that it wasn&#039;t twenty percent.

THAT&#039;S the mentality that is destroying us.  The psychopathic compulsion to expand a business beyond any reasonable limits in order to generate the highest level of profits is considered the proper way to go, and anyone who does otherwise is considered a fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, small business is fine.  It is the perfectly natural expression of human ingenuity and acquisitiveness, and that sort of capitalism has been around since people climbed out of the trees and began to live in a society.  God bless all small businessmen, and let them prosper.</p>
<p>It's when things grow huge and monstrous and beyond any human scale that they turn evil.  That is what has happened to us.</p>
<p>I recall reading an account of a stockholders' meeting at some company.  The company had grown by five percent in the previous year, with a corresponding increase in the dividends declared.</p>
<p>You think the stockholders were happy?  Think again.  They screamed "Why did we only grow FIVE percent?  What's wrong?"</p>
<p>In short, rather than being grateful for the honest return that their business had provided them, the stockholders were dissatisfied that the return wasn't more.  And I'm certain that if the increase had been ten percent, they would have still screamed out their dissatisfaction that it wasn't twenty percent.</p>
<p>THAT'S the mentality that is destroying us.  The psychopathic compulsion to expand a business beyond any reasonable limits in order to generate the highest level of profits is considered the proper way to go, and anyone who does otherwise is considered a fool.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@48 Joseph

Capital is what is necessary to found a business enterprise.  It is most often thought to be money, but it can also be personnel, goodwill, land etc.  Marxists use the term &quot;means of production,&quot; which is a fair enough description.  I started a business with a desk, a Ford Courier, $300 (which I used to buy a beeper, an answering machine, NCR forms and 1000 call cards.)  I lived in a rented townhouse.  I&#039;m still in business, and have hired guys who lost their jobs, inspired a dozen people to become self-employed, and served my customers with aplomb.

Capitalism must be the worship of money, it seems to have very little to do with manufacturing, providing community stability, or even having long-term vision.  But I do know that something is very wrong with the economy.  With the large number of dying mill towns, and migration to Suburbia with it&#039;s traffic congestion, and jobs being shipped elsewhere, we have a while to wait before things turn around.  But there is hope.  Americans are still hard-working even if they&#039;re not the smartest folks in the world.  Business need to get small, local, and creative again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@48 Joseph</p>
<p>Capital is what is necessary to found a business enterprise.  It is most often thought to be money, but it can also be personnel, goodwill, land etc.  Marxists use the term "means of production," which is a fair enough description.  I started a business with a desk, a Ford Courier, $300 (which I used to buy a beeper, an answering machine, NCR forms and 1000 call cards.)  I lived in a rented townhouse.  I'm still in business, and have hired guys who lost their jobs, inspired a dozen people to become self-employed, and served my customers with aplomb.</p>
<p>Capitalism must be the worship of money, it seems to have very little to do with manufacturing, providing community stability, or even having long-term vision.  But I do know that something is very wrong with the economy.  With the large number of dying mill towns, and migration to Suburbia with it's traffic congestion, and jobs being shipped elsewhere, we have a while to wait before things turn around.  But there is hope.  Americans are still hard-working even if they're not the smartest folks in the world.  Business need to get small, local, and creative again.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Salemi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Salemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revilo P. Oliver used to say that the establishment of the Federal Reserve in 1913 was a colossal swindle, designed to enrich a small coterie of financiers.

Anyone want to comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revilo P. Oliver used to say that the establishment of the Federal Reserve in 1913 was a colossal swindle, designed to enrich a small coterie of financiers.</p>
<p>Anyone want to comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick JOhnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick JOhnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a distinction between Capitalism and Financialism. The former is a system based on investing the surplus of production over consumption, and is a positive sum process. The latter is a system based on manipulating and leveraging the surplus, and is a zero sum process. 

Ever since 1913 and our Central Banking system, we have been sliding into Financialism. Recent activities suggest that the preferred future societal organization will be a Neo-feudalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a distinction between Capitalism and Financialism. The former is a system based on investing the surplus of production over consumption, and is a positive sum process. The latter is a system based on manipulating and leveraging the surplus, and is a zero sum process. </p>
<p>Ever since 1913 and our Central Banking system, we have been sliding into Financialism. Recent activities suggest that the preferred future societal organization will be a Neo-feudalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Salemi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Salemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Etienne Gervaise @ 47

Absolutely correct on those &quot;home equity loans.&quot;  Encouraging them was a socially destructive as knowingly spreading venereal disease.

Only foolish people would use their homes as equity to borrow money for frivolous things like vacations or cruises.  But many people are foolish, and it is at least some part of the responsibility of the rest of us, through law, to protect them from predators.

Capitalism doesn&#039;t see it that way.  For capitalists, &quot;Caveat emptor&quot; is the guiding principle, and they feel that it is an infringement of their rights if they are prevented from exploiting the foolishness of simple folk.  Just ask any businessman or advertising agent.  They see their fellow human beings as lawful prey.

This is why it is essential for us to begin to realize that capitalism, at least in the metastasized, malignant form that now afflicts us, is at the root of what is wrong with us.  There are plenty of other things wrong as well, but let&#039;s isolate this biopsy slide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Etienne Gervaise @ 47</p>
<p>Absolutely correct on those "home equity loans."  Encouraging them was a socially destructive as knowingly spreading venereal disease.</p>
<p>Only foolish people would use their homes as equity to borrow money for frivolous things like vacations or cruises.  But many people are foolish, and it is at least some part of the responsibility of the rest of us, through law, to protect them from predators.</p>
<p>Capitalism doesn't see it that way.  For capitalists, "Caveat emptor" is the guiding principle, and they feel that it is an infringement of their rights if they are prevented from exploiting the foolishness of simple folk.  Just ask any businessman or advertising agent.  They see their fellow human beings as lawful prey.</p>
<p>This is why it is essential for us to begin to realize that capitalism, at least in the metastasized, malignant form that now afflicts us, is at the root of what is wrong with us.  There are plenty of other things wrong as well, but let's isolate this biopsy slide.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19 Leo

Falling home prices were not the only thing, for several years the shysters were saturating AM radio with ads for home equity loans, so foolish mortgage payers could self-indulge with expensive cruises and gambling junkets to Las Vegas.  It seemed to me that a portion of the financial &quot;industry&quot; was concerned with turning the denizens of Suburbia into debt slaves.  This is the kind of short-sightedness that precipitates finacial ruin on a personal level.  When it happens a few million times it becomes a national disaster.

And your ad hominem attacks don&#039;t lend you much credibilty.  Knock it off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@19 Leo</p>
<p>Falling home prices were not the only thing, for several years the shysters were saturating AM radio with ads for home equity loans, so foolish mortgage payers could self-indulge with expensive cruises and gambling junkets to Las Vegas.  It seemed to me that a portion of the financial "industry" was concerned with turning the denizens of Suburbia into debt slaves.  This is the kind of short-sightedness that precipitates finacial ruin on a personal level.  When it happens a few million times it becomes a national disaster.</p>
<p>And your ad hominem attacks don't lend you much credibilty.  Knock it off!</p>
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