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		<title>By: Robert McGough</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/11/06/president-obama-thanks-george/comment-page-1/#comment-181868</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert McGough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really good in that it hits on the fundamental truth of what is happening -  the war against Christ and His Church.  The truth is that the &quot;left&quot; has transformed the USA into an atheistic european socialistic state where anyone that holds to the principles of how this country was actually founded (and why it rose to dominance in the world) is a &quot;right wing extremist&quot;.  
The idea that Obama now transforms this country racially is also hogwash. He divides it. MLK spoke of a country where people were judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. The exact opposite happened here. The American sheeple elected a marxist because he was a black that was &quot;clean and articulate&quot; (according to Joe Biden).  The &quot;right&quot; was helpless against this onslaught of constant media barrage and cult of celebrity because it ceased fighting this fight in the realm of ideas and especially what is right and wrong (yes all you moral relativists it actually does exist).  Like their atheistic counterparts they have lost their faith but unlike them still think they have it.  Take the 54% of Catholics that voted for the baby killer.  Obviously they are lost souls, but cultural marxism always produces this complete state of moral and intellectual confusion and contradiction.  I say that if Obama wants change lets do it and get it over with - let&#039;s get on with the destruction that marxism always bring so that the demons can be exposed and exorcised.   Lies have real consequences, and we are going to suffer the consequences of some real whoppers told by B. Hussein Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really good in that it hits on the fundamental truth of what is happening -  the war against Christ and His Church.  The truth is that the "left" has transformed the USA into an atheistic european socialistic state where anyone that holds to the principles of how this country was actually founded (and why it rose to dominance in the world) is a "right wing extremist".<br />
The idea that Obama now transforms this country racially is also hogwash. He divides it. MLK spoke of a country where people were judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. The exact opposite happened here. The American sheeple elected a marxist because he was a black that was "clean and articulate" (according to Joe Biden).  The "right" was helpless against this onslaught of constant media barrage and cult of celebrity because it ceased fighting this fight in the realm of ideas and especially what is right and wrong (yes all you moral relativists it actually does exist).  Like their atheistic counterparts they have lost their faith but unlike them still think they have it.  Take the 54% of Catholics that voted for the baby killer.  Obviously they are lost souls, but cultural marxism always produces this complete state of moral and intellectual confusion and contradiction.  I say that if Obama wants change lets do it and get it over with - let's get on with the destruction that marxism always bring so that the demons can be exposed and exorcised.   Lies have real consequences, and we are going to suffer the consequences of some real whoppers told by B. Hussein Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: david hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>david hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that you &quot;real Americans&quot; lack deep-enough origins and need to strenghten your roots by re-linking with your British ancestory.  You were cut adrift at your inception and need re-aligning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that you "real Americans" lack deep-enough origins and need to strenghten your roots by re-linking with your British ancestory.  You were cut adrift at your inception and need re-aligning.</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
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		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@33Etienne Gervaise

Russia has incorporated Russian Orthodox Christianity teaching into public schools under Christian crusader Vladimir Putin.  

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=143

A MOSCOW TRIAL WAS HELD AGAINST two Russian Jews, Yuri Samodurov and Anna Mikhalchuk on March 4 2007. Both were found guilty of “insulting the religion of Russia.”

Samodurov, Manager of the Sakharov Art Centre in Moscow, and Mikhalchuk, the artist of the Centre’s exhibition, “Beware Religion,” attempted to defend the exhibit’s depiction of Jesus Christ promoting Coca Cola and an Orthodox Christian priest presented in a ridiculing manner. 

Orthodox Christian zealots protested the Christ-mocking exhibit and justifiably defaced the mocking depictions of Jesus Christ and the Orthodox priest. Samodurov and Mikhalchuk called the police and charged the zealots with “vandalism.” 

Why do they have an art centre named after Soviet era dissident who created the USSR’s nuclear weapons? I don’t know.

“Moscow Court found them *guilty* of “insulting the faith of Russia.” They were both then fined $3,500 each. The judge told the profaners that they were fortunate not to have been given a two year sentence as well.”

In Austria, Norway or Denmark they had an artist painting of the last supper with Jesus and his disciples depicting them as having gay sex with each other.

“Srdja Trifkovic has also mentioned that a Serb would never consider speaking his native tongue properly”

That’s the problem right there. You end up forgetting the character of what makes up a Serb, it’s history and unique from all other people.

The is what happened to Southern Americans with constant racism propaganda levelled at and that they are inbred rednecks with constant reference to the KKK, lynching and slavery although it is more complicated than that like they were black members of the KKK during the civil war and there was white slavery and well as black.
Some Indian reservations also owned slaves. 
Michael Hoffman wrote about this in his book “They were white and they were slaves”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@33Etienne Gervaise</p>
<p>Russia has incorporated Russian Orthodox Christianity teaching into public schools under Christian crusader Vladimir Putin.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=143" rel="nofollow">http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=143</a></p>
<p>A MOSCOW TRIAL WAS HELD AGAINST two Russian Jews, Yuri Samodurov and Anna Mikhalchuk on March 4 2007. Both were found guilty of “insulting the religion of Russia.”</p>
<p>Samodurov, Manager of the Sakharov Art Centre in Moscow, and Mikhalchuk, the artist of the Centre’s exhibition, “Beware Religion,” attempted to defend the exhibit’s depiction of Jesus Christ promoting Coca Cola and an Orthodox Christian priest presented in a ridiculing manner. </p>
<p>Orthodox Christian zealots protested the Christ-mocking exhibit and justifiably defaced the mocking depictions of Jesus Christ and the Orthodox priest. Samodurov and Mikhalchuk called the police and charged the zealots with “vandalism.” </p>
<p>Why do they have an art centre named after Soviet era dissident who created the USSR’s nuclear weapons? I don’t know.</p>
<p>“Moscow Court found them *guilty* of “insulting the faith of Russia.” They were both then fined $3,500 each. The judge told the profaners that they were fortunate not to have been given a two year sentence as well.”</p>
<p>In Austria, Norway or Denmark they had an artist painting of the last supper with Jesus and his disciples depicting them as having gay sex with each other.</p>
<p>“Srdja Trifkovic has also mentioned that a Serb would never consider speaking his native tongue properly”</p>
<p>That’s the problem right there. You end up forgetting the character of what makes up a Serb, it’s history and unique from all other people.</p>
<p>The is what happened to Southern Americans with constant racism propaganda levelled at and that they are inbred rednecks with constant reference to the KKK, lynching and slavery although it is more complicated than that like they were black members of the KKK during the civil war and there was white slavery and well as black.<br />
Some Indian reservations also owned slaves.<br />
Michael Hoffman wrote about this in his book “They were white and they were slaves”.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21 Mr Hayter

Under communism, the Russians allowed their language to be debased.  Today, Russian classes are popping up all over Moscow, even for people who speak no other languages.

We could try that here, and speak English clearly and precisely, not in the slovenly, ebonics/valley girl/hillbilly/wigger combination spewed at us by MTV.

Srdja Trifkovic has also mentioned that a Serb would never consider speaking his native tongue porperly.

There you have step 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21 Mr Hayter</p>
<p>Under communism, the Russians allowed their language to be debased.  Today, Russian classes are popping up all over Moscow, even for people who speak no other languages.</p>
<p>We could try that here, and speak English clearly and precisely, not in the slovenly, ebonics/valley girl/hillbilly/wigger combination spewed at us by MTV.</p>
<p>Srdja Trifkovic has also mentioned that a Serb would never consider speaking his native tongue porperly.</p>
<p>There you have step 1.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Hayter</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Hayter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prof. Wilson:

Thank you for that clarification, and apologies for the delay in responding. Alas, I&#039;m not too sure how precisely we go about achieving that agenda (or any other conservative one). My point was simply that the Right&#039;s capital is obviously so limited, and the situation is deteriorating so rapidly, that we need to husband our energies, donations, activism, etc. to get the greatest marginal returns, and that means re-focusing our intellectual, educational and political efforts towards those areas which directly threaten the physical interests (ie, personal safety, and economic prosperity, along with national sovereignty, the loss of which would end our scope of action without even a fight) of traditional Americans. I want serious conservatives to start &#039;prioritizing&#039; their overall agenda, jettisoning concern over secondary issues. 

I wish this weren&#039;t necessary. I wish we had never changed our immigration laws, had passed the Bricker Amendment, still hung murderers, retained a &#039;dollar as good as gold&#039;, etc. Then we could gently make the complex arguments on behalf of sexual ethics, traditional moral values and cultural standards, and so forth. But I perceive our future ever less dimly, and it looks increasingly like the &quot;new&quot; South Africa&#039;s present. What did Sam Francis say long ago about the &quot;basics&quot; that are all most people really care about: personal safety, putting food on the table, not living in continuous fear, etc.? Outside of exceptional times and places (eg, 1861-5)Americans have mostly possessed those &quot;basics&quot; The day may come, however, when they can no longer be taken for granted.   

If I am being asked about the specific, or even just secondary, mechanics of achieving immigration stoppage, etc., I just don&#039;t know. That&#039;s a tall order you&#039;ve given me! But I do know a few things. I think Sam&#039;s strategy of Middle American nationalism is still the correct one. I think we need some sort of &#039;center&#039;, say, a &quot;Middle American PAC&quot;. Each of us needs, first, to educate himself on the issues, and then constantly try to persuade others of the empirical and moral soundness of our positions. Above all, conservative intellectual leaders need to reach some sort of consensus as to what in fact ARE the key issues (I bet a lot would say &#039;abortion&#039;; others &#039;national defense&#039;). My post represents my ordering of the top concerns for conservatives.

Upon what do you think the Right should focus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof. Wilson:</p>
<p>Thank you for that clarification, and apologies for the delay in responding. Alas, I'm not too sure how precisely we go about achieving that agenda (or any other conservative one). My point was simply that the Right's capital is obviously so limited, and the situation is deteriorating so rapidly, that we need to husband our energies, donations, activism, etc. to get the greatest marginal returns, and that means re-focusing our intellectual, educational and political efforts towards those areas which directly threaten the physical interests (ie, personal safety, and economic prosperity, along with national sovereignty, the loss of which would end our scope of action without even a fight) of traditional Americans. I want serious conservatives to start 'prioritizing' their overall agenda, jettisoning concern over secondary issues. </p>
<p>I wish this weren't necessary. I wish we had never changed our immigration laws, had passed the Bricker Amendment, still hung murderers, retained a 'dollar as good as gold', etc. Then we could gently make the complex arguments on behalf of sexual ethics, traditional moral values and cultural standards, and so forth. But I perceive our future ever less dimly, and it looks increasingly like the "new" South Africa's present. What did Sam Francis say long ago about the "basics" that are all most people really care about: personal safety, putting food on the table, not living in continuous fear, etc.? Outside of exceptional times and places (eg, 1861-5)Americans have mostly possessed those "basics" The day may come, however, when they can no longer be taken for granted.   </p>
<p>If I am being asked about the specific, or even just secondary, mechanics of achieving immigration stoppage, etc., I just don't know. That's a tall order you've given me! But I do know a few things. I think Sam's strategy of Middle American nationalism is still the correct one. I think we need some sort of 'center', say, a "Middle American PAC". Each of us needs, first, to educate himself on the issues, and then constantly try to persuade others of the empirical and moral soundness of our positions. Above all, conservative intellectual leaders need to reach some sort of consensus as to what in fact ARE the key issues (I bet a lot would say 'abortion'; others 'national defense'). My post represents my ordering of the top concerns for conservatives.</p>
<p>Upon what do you think the Right should focus?</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is that gun sales are up, up, up since November 4.  Better stock up on bullets too, because the folks BO is surrounding himself with will move to institute an overturning of the Second Amendment.  Be prepared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is that gun sales are up, up, up since November 4.  Better stock up on bullets too, because the folks BO is surrounding himself with will move to institute an overturning of the Second Amendment.  Be prepared.</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clyde Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very promising  program that you  described.  How are we to go about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very promising  program that you  described.  How are we to go about it?</p>
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		<title>By: A. Hayter</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Hayter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prof Wilson:

Thank you for considering my little post, but I&#039;m not sure what I&#039;m being asked? How is what to be accomplished?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof Wilson:</p>
<p>Thank you for considering my little post, but I'm not sure what I'm being asked? How is what to be accomplished?</p>
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		<title>By: White Cornerback</title>
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		<dc:creator>White Cornerback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;America is basically leftist, as is the Anglosphere, as is Europe. The West is now left-liberal in its primary ideo-cultural orientation.&quot;

And in this light, I think that Chronicles readers ought to put this fact in their pipe and smoke it:  Proposition 8 won due to the Obama-fueled high turnout of blacks, 70% of which voted against gay marriage.  

The PC language is that they &quot;helped&quot; its passage, the statistical crunching proves their increased turnout was decisive.  

Some people here may want to think twice about repealing the 15th amendment.

http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1378391.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"America is basically leftist, as is the Anglosphere, as is Europe. The West is now left-liberal in its primary ideo-cultural orientation."</p>
<p>And in this light, I think that Chronicles readers ought to put this fact in their pipe and smoke it:  Proposition 8 won due to the Obama-fueled high turnout of blacks, 70% of which voted against gay marriage.  </p>
<p>The PC language is that they "helped" its passage, the statistical crunching proves their increased turnout was decisive.  </p>
<p>Some people here may want to think twice about repealing the 15th amendment.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1378391.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1378391.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean Scallon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Scallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the author is right that if America is a proposition nation that Barak Obama is exactly what you&#039;re going to get. No neocon could have been upset at Obama&#039;s election nor what he said in his victory speech because it conforms exactly to what they believe about the U.S. So in their minds they couldn&#039;t lose either way.

My earnest hope (and perhaps it is a naive one) is that the election of Obama removes the Mark of Cain all whites have been put upon by the multicultural left for &quot;legacy of slavery&quot; and &quot;institutional racism&quot; those alleged benefits of whitness that&#039;s always seemed to have escaped all those black lung coal miners in Applacia. I&#039;m sure there will be those still pursuing such angles and if they do we simply say &quot;Obama&quot; and hopefully they will melt. (Although I should say, pretty soon, we may start hearing that because Obama is only half-black or because he&#039;s light skinnned, it doesn&#039;t change anything, which only reveals their patholgies.)

However, mean-spirited attacks on Obama&#039;s family are pathetic. It&#039;s incumbent upon us to stick to policy and culture and not be driven mad by Obama the way many on the right were driven mad and wound up destroying themselves because of the Clintons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the author is right that if America is a proposition nation that Barak Obama is exactly what you're going to get. No neocon could have been upset at Obama's election nor what he said in his victory speech because it conforms exactly to what they believe about the U.S. So in their minds they couldn't lose either way.</p>
<p>My earnest hope (and perhaps it is a naive one) is that the election of Obama removes the Mark of Cain all whites have been put upon by the multicultural left for "legacy of slavery" and "institutional racism" those alleged benefits of whitness that's always seemed to have escaped all those black lung coal miners in Applacia. I'm sure there will be those still pursuing such angles and if they do we simply say "Obama" and hopefully they will melt. (Although I should say, pretty soon, we may start hearing that because Obama is only half-black or because he's light skinnned, it doesn't change anything, which only reveals their patholgies.)</p>
<p>However, mean-spirited attacks on Obama's family are pathetic. It's incumbent upon us to stick to policy and culture and not be driven mad by Obama the way many on the right were driven mad and wound up destroying themselves because of the Clintons.</p>
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