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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/10/20/on-and-on-with-the-way-we-are-now/comment-page-1/#comment-180617</link>
		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23 EE

I was once told by a history student that every civilization that has begun the practice of child sacrifice has never recovered.  The examples began as Biblical cases in Egypt with pharoah&#039;s decree to exterminate Hebrew children, to Israel doing the Molech routine and Herod&#039;s massacre of the innocents.  In Sparta the weaklings were left to exposure, Romans dumped the unwanted in the Tiber, and Saint Peter himself condemned the sorcerers and the women who consulted them for abortions.  Louis XIV tolerated it, and we will be a different nation as a result of our own short-sightedness too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23 EE</p>
<p>I was once told by a history student that every civilization that has begun the practice of child sacrifice has never recovered.  The examples began as Biblical cases in Egypt with pharoah's decree to exterminate Hebrew children, to Israel doing the Molech routine and Herod's massacre of the innocents.  In Sparta the weaklings were left to exposure, Romans dumped the unwanted in the Tiber, and Saint Peter himself condemned the sorcerers and the women who consulted them for abortions.  Louis XIV tolerated it, and we will be a different nation as a result of our own short-sightedness too.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/10/20/on-and-on-with-the-way-we-are-now/comment-page-1/#comment-180614</link>
		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24 John

Borat had only one redeeming feature and that was when they punked Keyes.  My priest had booked him for a morning speaking engagement a few years ago, Keyes called a half hour before the event saying he had to cancel and go to the White House to grovel for a plum job.  He has never had my respect since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24 John</p>
<p>Borat had only one redeeming feature and that was when they punked Keyes.  My priest had booked him for a morning speaking engagement a few years ago, Keyes called a half hour before the event saying he had to cancel and go to the White House to grovel for a plum job.  He has never had my respect since.</p>
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		<title>By: John Seiler</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Seiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keyes, a perpetual Neo&quot;conservative&quot; blabbermouth and candidate, somehow foisted himself on the ballot out here in Taxifornia, displacing Chuck Baldwin for the American Independent Party nomination, the state&#039;s Constitution Party affiliate. Well, it&#039;ll increase Keyes&#039; speaking fees before Neocon groups. &quot;And now...former presidential candidate Alan Keyes!!!!!&quot;

Keyes was Bill Kristol&#039;s roommate at Hahvahd. He&#039;s also a chickenhawk, strongly supporting the Vietnam War, but getting out of Nam service through deferments. (See the Wikipedia entry.) Can&#039;t have our delicate boy getting dirty in a foxhole.

The last time Keyes ran against Obama was for the U.S. Senate from Illinois in 2004. Result: Obama 70%, Keyes 27%.

In California, at least, that&#039;s likely to be the Obama-McCain result this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keyes, a perpetual Neo"conservative" blabbermouth and candidate, somehow foisted himself on the ballot out here in Taxifornia, displacing Chuck Baldwin for the American Independent Party nomination, the state's Constitution Party affiliate. Well, it'll increase Keyes' speaking fees before Neocon groups. "And now...former presidential candidate Alan Keyes!!!!!"</p>
<p>Keyes was Bill Kristol's roommate at Hahvahd. He's also a chickenhawk, strongly supporting the Vietnam War, but getting out of Nam service through deferments. (See the Wikipedia entry.) Can't have our delicate boy getting dirty in a foxhole.</p>
<p>The last time Keyes ran against Obama was for the U.S. Senate from Illinois in 2004. Result: Obama 70%, Keyes 27%.</p>
<p>In California, at least, that's likely to be the Obama-McCain result this year.</p>
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		<title>By: EE Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>EE Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a good article on LRC addressing the duplicitous nature of our political system.  C&amp;P this url to read it:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/dilsaver1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's a good article on LRC addressing the duplicitous nature of our political system.  C&amp;P this url to read it:<br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/dilsaver1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/dilsaver1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been told that Bob Barr was one of the meanest members in the House of Representatives.  In my humble opinion, that&#039;s enough to get my vote.  At least he&#039;ll do the pushing around rather than playing the puppet.  He&#039;s hoping for 10%. Let&#039;s go voters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been told that Bob Barr was one of the meanest members in the House of Representatives.  In my humble opinion, that's enough to get my vote.  At least he'll do the pushing around rather than playing the puppet.  He's hoping for 10%. Let's go voters!</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Wilson, 
I hope you don&#039;t allow the Keyes entryists in California to sour you on the entire Constitution Party. The Party&#039;s platform is almost a carbon copy of the positions you just described, and Chuck Baldwin&#039;s own views seem to adhere pretty strictly to that platform.

 The Keyes faction of the party is made up almost entirely of outsiders attempting to use the CP&#039;s California ballot line, which makes them quite irrelevant. Putting them aside, a vote for the CP is a vote for the best of traditional conservativism, and I think that&#039;s a worthwhile thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Wilson,<br />
I hope you don't allow the Keyes entryists in California to sour you on the entire Constitution Party. The Party's platform is almost a carbon copy of the positions you just described, and Chuck Baldwin's own views seem to adhere pretty strictly to that platform.</p>
<p> The Keyes faction of the party is made up almost entirely of outsiders attempting to use the CP's California ballot line, which makes them quite irrelevant. Putting them aside, a vote for the CP is a vote for the best of traditional conservativism, and I think that's a worthwhile thing.</p>
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		<title>By: D Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hill I do believe your org. posited the thought that our empire is collapsing yet here you insist that the empire will be about enforcing those &quot;million laws.&quot;  Perhaps America is nothing more than another peasant nation that can be ruled by a central government, but perhaps not since it spans a continent and its citizens perhaps not as dull as TV portrays them as.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hill I do believe your org. posited the thought that our empire is collapsing yet here you insist that the empire will be about enforcing those "million laws."  Perhaps America is nothing more than another peasant nation that can be ruled by a central government, but perhaps not since it spans a continent and its citizens perhaps not as dull as TV portrays them as.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul D. Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul D. Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be argued, Dr. Wilson, that as Southerners (I&#039;m a Georgian, from Lagrange), we ARE foreigners. I certainly consider myself a Southerner first, as in the bumper-sticker slogan, &quot;American by birth -- SOUTHERN by the Grace of God&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be argued, Dr. Wilson, that as Southerners (I'm a Georgian, from Lagrange), we ARE foreigners. I certainly consider myself a Southerner first, as in the bumper-sticker slogan, "American by birth -- SOUTHERN by the Grace of God".</p>
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		<title>By: Skepsis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skepsis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than vote, I will toast Mons. Calgues with a special wine--&quot;a tad too tart.&quot;

Et Pourquoi Pas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than vote, I will toast Mons. Calgues with a special wine--"a tad too tart."</p>
<p>Et Pourquoi Pas?</p>
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		<title>By: Skepsis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skepsis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must we continue to hesitate?  Do the post-modernists hesitate?  Do the rabbit Strausians hesitate at the prospect of power aggrandizement?  

Reading Chronicles, First Things, Taki, Mr. Buchanan--all of these advance the mind and further the cultural movement that seeks truth rather than justified passion.  However, what good has it done, young man?  Will you continue to couch you passion, young man?  Will you continue to refuse to, &quot;go under&quot;?.

You see, just as our great friend--and nemesis--Nietchze predicted, we have become the last men.  We see injustice, we see the rule of the inferior, and we blink.  We stand idle as the tide of the mass men, &quot;penetrate into inmost nooks of rocky cliff,&quot; expose the great treasures of our civilization--and spray over them.  

Young men, we blink as the ubiquitous, &quot;bug men&quot; cashier our future.

How is it that the most unjust now have all of the gumption?  Evil can triumph, my friend--although it is never an infinite reign.  Nevertheless, we ought not stand still and &quot;blink&quot; as it penetrates into our citadels.

In the words of Burke, evil will triumph if, &quot;good men do nothing.&quot;

Young men, if we do nothing, are we good?

I am loathe to close--to quite our great American Caesar--but only because our time is nigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must we continue to hesitate?  Do the post-modernists hesitate?  Do the rabbit Strausians hesitate at the prospect of power aggrandizement?  </p>
<p>Reading Chronicles, First Things, Taki, Mr. Buchanan--all of these advance the mind and further the cultural movement that seeks truth rather than justified passion.  However, what good has it done, young man?  Will you continue to couch you passion, young man?  Will you continue to refuse to, "go under"?.</p>
<p>You see, just as our great friend--and nemesis--Nietchze predicted, we have become the last men.  We see injustice, we see the rule of the inferior, and we blink.  We stand idle as the tide of the mass men, "penetrate into inmost nooks of rocky cliff," expose the great treasures of our civilization--and spray over them.  </p>
<p>Young men, we blink as the ubiquitous, "bug men" cashier our future.</p>
<p>How is it that the most unjust now have all of the gumption?  Evil can triumph, my friend--although it is never an infinite reign.  Nevertheless, we ought not stand still and "blink" as it penetrates into our citadels.</p>
<p>In the words of Burke, evil will triumph if, "good men do nothing."</p>
<p>Young men, if we do nothing, are we good?</p>
<p>I am loathe to close--to quite our great American Caesar--but only because our time is nigh.</p>
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