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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/09/29/olmerts-bombshell/comment-page-1/#comment-179823</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel didn&#039;t steal land from anyone.  Jews have lived there for two thousand years.  During the height of the zionist movement, they bought land from the Arab effendi (including the Husseinis).

This is documented by various historians (Karsh, Morris, etc.).  They &#039;stole&#039; the land from the Arabs no more than Serbs &#039;stole&#039; Kosovo from the Albanians.

When the history and law are examined, as usual it is the Jews (Israel) that has had her land stolen and given to genocidal Jewhaters.

Read Christopher Simpson&#039;s &#039;Blowback&#039; to get an idea of just how much the US ruling elites love the Jews.  They love the Jews enough to tell MSM lies throughout the NATO empire, to blame US imperialism on &#039;Jewish&#039; neocons, and to blame 9/11 on the US relationship with Israel.

The reality of course is that the US has supported &#039;captive nation&#039; nazis, 5th column fascists, and similar axis allied losers for 60 years.  The US &#039;lefties&#039; have no problem with this though, b/c the government corrupted NYT only tells them to hate Israel and that the Joooos have a stranglehold on US policy.

Goebbels&#039; big lies are alive and well in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel didn't steal land from anyone.  Jews have lived there for two thousand years.  During the height of the zionist movement, they bought land from the Arab effendi (including the Husseinis).</p>
<p>This is documented by various historians (Karsh, Morris, etc.).  They 'stole' the land from the Arabs no more than Serbs 'stole' Kosovo from the Albanians.</p>
<p>When the history and law are examined, as usual it is the Jews (Israel) that has had her land stolen and given to genocidal Jewhaters.</p>
<p>Read Christopher Simpson's 'Blowback' to get an idea of just how much the US ruling elites love the Jews.  They love the Jews enough to tell MSM lies throughout the NATO empire, to blame US imperialism on 'Jewish' neocons, and to blame 9/11 on the US relationship with Israel.</p>
<p>The reality of course is that the US has supported 'captive nation' nazis, 5th column fascists, and similar axis allied losers for 60 years.  The US 'lefties' have no problem with this though, b/c the government corrupted NYT only tells them to hate Israel and that the Joooos have a stranglehold on US policy.</p>
<p>Goebbels' big lies are alive and well in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Akira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criticizing Israel, and even Jews in general, or even criticizing in some respects Judaism is all fine with me, but the real problem is Islam.

Even if one were to concede (though I don&#039;t) the anti-Israeli propaganda -- &quot;They&#039;re European refugees who have no right to be there and stole other people&#039;s land!&quot; -- even if that were true, it wouldn&#039;t explain why Israel is still under attack when other land grabs (Romania, Poland, Germany, Konigsberg, the Kurils, and other post-WWII border-shifts come to mind) have been accepted as a lesser evil than war is.

Therefore, I would have edited &quot;The suspicion that Arab promises are empty – unenforceable, or insincere, or both&quot; to: &quot;The suspicion that Muslim Arab promises are empty – unenforceable, or insincere, or both...&quot;

E.g. Israel&#039;s relations with Christian-run Lebanon were never as bad as they have been since Muslims took over almost entirely. [Yes, I&#039;m aware that Lebanon took part in the 48 invasion, but it was only a token force of 1000, who fought only half-heartedly, and were quickly routed. Lebanon feared that Iraq and Transjordan would annex all of &quot;Palestine&quot; and then threaten Lebanon, Syria and Egypt.] 

I find it sadly amusing that there seem to be numerically equivalent contingents of people who accuse the US of having a policy of appeasing Arabs by stabbing Jews in the back, and people who claim that Washington is &quot;in the pocket of the Jews.&quot;

Since Olmert makes lame ducks look like Olympians; since his opinions are fatuous; since he&#039;s an utter failure as both a civil and a military leader; and since even those who agree with him would be ashamed to be seen in public with him; the main lesson of this article seems to be just that Israel is seriously, seriously screwed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criticizing Israel, and even Jews in general, or even criticizing in some respects Judaism is all fine with me, but the real problem is Islam.</p>
<p>Even if one were to concede (though I don't) the anti-Israeli propaganda -- "They're European refugees who have no right to be there and stole other people's land!" -- even if that were true, it wouldn't explain why Israel is still under attack when other land grabs (Romania, Poland, Germany, Konigsberg, the Kurils, and other post-WWII border-shifts come to mind) have been accepted as a lesser evil than war is.</p>
<p>Therefore, I would have edited "The suspicion that Arab promises are empty – unenforceable, or insincere, or both" to: "The suspicion that Muslim Arab promises are empty – unenforceable, or insincere, or both..."</p>
<p>E.g. Israel's relations with Christian-run Lebanon were never as bad as they have been since Muslims took over almost entirely. [Yes, I'm aware that Lebanon took part in the 48 invasion, but it was only a token force of 1000, who fought only half-heartedly, and were quickly routed. Lebanon feared that Iraq and Transjordan would annex all of "Palestine" and then threaten Lebanon, Syria and Egypt.] </p>
<p>I find it sadly amusing that there seem to be numerically equivalent contingents of people who accuse the US of having a policy of appeasing Arabs by stabbing Jews in the back, and people who claim that Washington is "in the pocket of the Jews."</p>
<p>Since Olmert makes lame ducks look like Olympians; since his opinions are fatuous; since he's an utter failure as both a civil and a military leader; and since even those who agree with him would be ashamed to be seen in public with him; the main lesson of this article seems to be just that Israel is seriously, seriously screwed up.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;land for peace&#039; is nothing more than taqiyya used to hide US policy--which is to appease Arabs by stabbing the Jews (and other enemies of the caliphate) in the back.

http://www.mideastweb.org/log/archives/00000609.htm

Considering that some of the Bosnian handzar migrated to &#039;palestine&#039; and became a part of the &#039;palestinian&#039; movement, it&#039;s bizarre that any Serb supporters would support or believe any of the palestinian &#039;liberation&#039; fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'land for peace' is nothing more than taqiyya used to hide US policy--which is to appease Arabs by stabbing the Jews (and other enemies of the caliphate) in the back.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mideastweb.org/log/archives/00000609.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mideastweb.org/log/archives/00000609.htm</a></p>
<p>Considering that some of the Bosnian handzar migrated to 'palestine' and became a part of the 'palestinian' movement, it's bizarre that any Serb supporters would support or believe any of the palestinian 'liberation' fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@3 Red

The saga continues as what started as 3 intelligible pages was boosted to 105 only to fail, the elites decided that ramming through 300 more pages of mischievous legisltion is the only way to get this bipartisan (read both stupid and evil) stinkeroo passed.  After all what elected official wants to look as though he&#039;s too dim to read that much, just vote yea and get it over with.  Hell, the elections are in 5 weeks and we need to get back into flyover country to keep our jobs safe.

Now more than ever is the time to call your senators and convince them that bailing out the sharks who fund their campaigns is not necessarily the best way to stay bought.  They are out of scratch now, and perhaps the same democracy we&#039;re trying to foist off on the rest of the globe might work for us this one time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@3 Red</p>
<p>The saga continues as what started as 3 intelligible pages was boosted to 105 only to fail, the elites decided that ramming through 300 more pages of mischievous legisltion is the only way to get this bipartisan (read both stupid and evil) stinkeroo passed.  After all what elected official wants to look as though he's too dim to read that much, just vote yea and get it over with.  Hell, the elections are in 5 weeks and we need to get back into flyover country to keep our jobs safe.</p>
<p>Now more than ever is the time to call your senators and convince them that bailing out the sharks who fund their campaigns is not necessarily the best way to stay bought.  They are out of scratch now, and perhaps the same democracy we're trying to foist off on the rest of the globe might work for us this one time.</p>
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		<title>By: MAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Trifkovic, following on Red Phillip&#039;s comment (sorry to be off topic), it looks as though your hope for a financial meltdown to save us from the empire-building schemes of the elites may be coming true. Better to be broke than a party to the world they were creating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Trifkovic, following on Red Phillip's comment (sorry to be off topic), it looks as though your hope for a financial meltdown to save us from the empire-building schemes of the elites may be coming true. Better to be broke than a party to the world they were creating!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The suspicion that Arab promises are empty – unenforceable, or insincere, or both – is not confined to the Likud.&quot;  Does anyone believe that Israeli promises are one iota different.  After all, one of the fundamental tenets of the Talmud is that it is not only moral but laudatory to lie to Gentiles.  I think that the Koran has similar sentiments regarding infidels.  In the Middle East a bird in the hand is worth infinitely more than two in a bush.  

In support of Red Phillips, this should be the end of ALL of our so-called foreign aid, money that, after being stripped of all its sentimental camouflage,  has gone to pay thugs to let our elite expand their empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The suspicion that Arab promises are empty – unenforceable, or insincere, or both – is not confined to the Likud."  Does anyone believe that Israeli promises are one iota different.  After all, one of the fundamental tenets of the Talmud is that it is not only moral but laudatory to lie to Gentiles.  I think that the Koran has similar sentiments regarding infidels.  In the Middle East a bird in the hand is worth infinitely more than two in a bush.  </p>
<p>In support of Red Phillips, this should be the end of ALL of our so-called foreign aid, money that, after being stripped of all its sentimental camouflage,  has gone to pay thugs to let our elite expand their empire.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be off topic, but we need a bailout thread. The good guys won one for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be off topic, but we need a bailout thread. The good guys won one for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: roho</title>
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		<dc:creator>roho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Israeli&#039;s have enough sense to realize that the well went dry!............They love to wage war with U.S. citizens, and play the roll of &quot;Victim&quot; with their 300 nuclear warheads. But, we just spent $3 trillion dollars for what?.....So we could watch a bunch of stupid Iraqi&#039;s walk around with purple fingers?(Not counting dead U.S. military.).............AIPAC needs to infiltrate Chinese politics, and see if they have any cannon fodder?......Surely somebody in China needs campaign donations? John McAmnesty is an idiot, and Obamamama needs to understand that Israel has &quot;Useful Idiots&quot; just like Russia!

The 2 party system has failed us............VOTE BALDWIN 2008!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israeli's have enough sense to realize that the well went dry!............They love to wage war with U.S. citizens, and play the roll of "Victim" with their 300 nuclear warheads. But, we just spent $3 trillion dollars for what?.....So we could watch a bunch of stupid Iraqi's walk around with purple fingers?(Not counting dead U.S. military.).............AIPAC needs to infiltrate Chinese politics, and see if they have any cannon fodder?......Surely somebody in China needs campaign donations? John McAmnesty is an idiot, and Obamamama needs to understand that Israel has "Useful Idiots" just like Russia!</p>
<p>The 2 party system has failed us............VOTE BALDWIN 2008!</p>
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		<title>By: NGPM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NGPM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll take Dr. Trifkovic&#039;s advice and for the sake of this thread give Olmert the benefit of the doubt.  This is an important point and is often overlooked:  &quot;The concept of land for peace is still fundamentally valid.&quot;

Until quite recently it was standard protocol for a victor in a war to give a monetary payment to one&#039;s adversaries in exchange for land that the latter had held.

More of the harmful fruits of democracy and technocracy:  the masses can become outraged and rise up against calm and reasonable peace proposals.  The Israeli government can dismantle all illegal settlements and the P.A. can sign a treaty and call for an end to the conflict, but will this stop the violence?

Terrorism, as Mark Hutchinson observed, seems to be an unfortunate and ineradicable facet of modern life.

In other words:  Don&#039;t take off your Brown Scapular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll take Dr. Trifkovic's advice and for the sake of this thread give Olmert the benefit of the doubt.  This is an important point and is often overlooked:  "The concept of land for peace is still fundamentally valid."</p>
<p>Until quite recently it was standard protocol for a victor in a war to give a monetary payment to one's adversaries in exchange for land that the latter had held.</p>
<p>More of the harmful fruits of democracy and technocracy:  the masses can become outraged and rise up against calm and reasonable peace proposals.  The Israeli government can dismantle all illegal settlements and the P.A. can sign a treaty and call for an end to the conflict, but will this stop the violence?</p>
<p>Terrorism, as Mark Hutchinson observed, seems to be an unfortunate and ineradicable facet of modern life.</p>
<p>In other words:  Don't take off your Brown Scapular.</p>
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