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		<title>By: Kevin Riley O'Keeffe</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/09/05/distant-drums-at-sarahs-party/comment-page-1/#comment-179016</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Riley O'Keeffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the Israeli screwballs who control Saakashvili might have envisaged using Georgia to get at Iran wouldn’t surprise me. The problem would be that the planes would have to violate Azerbaijan’s airspace to do so and I doubt if the Israeli government would go that far.&quot;

They wouldn&#039;t need to violate Azerbaijani airspace; Armenian airspace would be adequate to the task of bombing Iran from Georgia.  And as I understand it, Russia is thought to be siding with Azerbaijan in the soon-to-be Second War for Nagorno-Karabahk, hence an Armenian decision to join Georgia within the Anglo-American-Zionist Axis doesn&#039;t seem all that far-fetched (although perhaps won&#039;t occur now, in light of events in South Ossetia and Abkhazia).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"the Israeli screwballs who control Saakashvili might have envisaged using Georgia to get at Iran wouldn’t surprise me. The problem would be that the planes would have to violate Azerbaijan’s airspace to do so and I doubt if the Israeli government would go that far."</p>
<p>They wouldn't need to violate Azerbaijani airspace; Armenian airspace would be adequate to the task of bombing Iran from Georgia.  And as I understand it, Russia is thought to be siding with Azerbaijan in the soon-to-be Second War for Nagorno-Karabahk, hence an Armenian decision to join Georgia within the Anglo-American-Zionist Axis doesn't seem all that far-fetched (although perhaps won't occur now, in light of events in South Ossetia and Abkhazia).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Riley O'Keeffe</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/09/05/distant-drums-at-sarahs-party/comment-page-1/#comment-179015</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Riley O'Keeffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a smart, informed, principled man who always ends up supporting “the party” no matter what? That, I do not understand.&quot;

I know what you mean, but in fairness to Mr. Buchanan, I do recall at least one election where he didn&#039;t back the GOP ie., 2000.  He may even have spoiled the election for Bush/Cheney in as many as four states ie., Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico, and Oregon.  Never-the-less, I think he made the right choice in 2000 (albeit probably four years later than he should have), and should have stuck with that choice by endorsing Michael Peroutka in 2004, and Chuck Baldwin this year, alas.  Nobody&#039;s perfect, but Pat does deserve some credit for having resisted GOP mania, albeit not as much as he should have done.

Oh, and apparently some you people didn&#039;t get the memo about the U.S. military:  Sometime shortly after St. Patrick&#039;s Day of 2003, there ceased to be any rational basis for a morally upstanding and patriotic American to have anything to do with that factory of globalist tyranny, war criminality and treason.  There are, never-the-less, many good men &amp; women in the U.S. military, yet until it stops acting as Redcoats on behalf of the international petroleum industry and the Likud Party, and engaging in the systematic torture, sexual abuse, rape, and even outright murder of generally innocent prisoners often taken in random street sweeps, all such good men &amp; women associated with the U.S. military should end their involvement with it ASAP.  I&#039;d like to be able to revere the U.S. military, but it has become something that I am forced to loathe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"a smart, informed, principled man who always ends up supporting “the party” no matter what? That, I do not understand."</p>
<p>I know what you mean, but in fairness to Mr. Buchanan, I do recall at least one election where he didn't back the GOP ie., 2000.  He may even have spoiled the election for Bush/Cheney in as many as four states ie., Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico, and Oregon.  Never-the-less, I think he made the right choice in 2000 (albeit probably four years later than he should have), and should have stuck with that choice by endorsing Michael Peroutka in 2004, and Chuck Baldwin this year, alas.  Nobody's perfect, but Pat does deserve some credit for having resisted GOP mania, albeit not as much as he should have done.</p>
<p>Oh, and apparently some you people didn't get the memo about the U.S. military:  Sometime shortly after St. Patrick's Day of 2003, there ceased to be any rational basis for a morally upstanding and patriotic American to have anything to do with that factory of globalist tyranny, war criminality and treason.  There are, never-the-less, many good men &amp; women in the U.S. military, yet until it stops acting as Redcoats on behalf of the international petroleum industry and the Likud Party, and engaging in the systematic torture, sexual abuse, rape, and even outright murder of generally innocent prisoners often taken in random street sweeps, all such good men &amp; women associated with the U.S. military should end their involvement with it ASAP.  I'd like to be able to revere the U.S. military, but it has become something that I am forced to loathe.</p>
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		<title>By: Chesterbelloc</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/09/05/distant-drums-at-sarahs-party/comment-page-1/#comment-178756</link>
		<dc:creator>Chesterbelloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I certainly agree that voting for McCain is against our long-term interests.  I&#039;m just saying that we shouldn&#039;t burn bridges when we don&#039;t know what the future holds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I certainly agree that voting for McCain is against our long-term interests.  I'm just saying that we shouldn't burn bridges when we don't know what the future holds.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirt Higdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirt Higdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The neocons are anything but powerless, Chesterbelloc; they&#039;re well funded and well connected.  As far as us taking over the Republican party is concerned, you&#039;ll have to decide which argument you&#039;re making - will we take over because they &quot;can&#039;t win without us&quot; or because they&#039;ve led the country &quot;to a foreign policy disaster that makes Iraq look like a picnic.&quot;  In the former case, this would be a great year to prove that they can&#039;t win without us, but instead &quot;conservatives&quot;, including many &quot;paleos&quot; are swarming aboard the McCain/Palin bandwagon because they can&#039;t stand Obama.  In the latter case, we might indeed be able to take over the Republican party following such a foreign policy disaster, but it would not be worth having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The neocons are anything but powerless, Chesterbelloc; they're well funded and well connected.  As far as us taking over the Republican party is concerned, you'll have to decide which argument you're making - will we take over because they "can't win without us" or because they've led the country "to a foreign policy disaster that makes Iraq look like a picnic."  In the former case, this would be a great year to prove that they can't win without us, but instead "conservatives", including many "paleos" are swarming aboard the McCain/Palin bandwagon because they can't stand Obama.  In the latter case, we might indeed be able to take over the Republican party following such a foreign policy disaster, but it would not be worth having.</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne Gervaise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etienne Gervaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27 yar

Considering that the article you refer to dates to 2005, there should be studies that have come in from other countries, but alas, not so.

As for WaPo being a zionist rag that denigrates its host nation, I&#039;ll stand pet thank you very much.  Anyone who seeks &quot;enlightenment&quot; from fish wrappers -- or even TV for that matter -- needs to be on Xanax or possibly Thorazine.

And accusing me of both ignorance and insanity is sophomoric on your part in that you&#039;ve cast the first epithet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27 yar</p>
<p>Considering that the article you refer to dates to 2005, there should be studies that have come in from other countries, but alas, not so.</p>
<p>As for WaPo being a zionist rag that denigrates its host nation, I'll stand pet thank you very much.  Anyone who seeks "enlightenment" from fish wrappers -- or even TV for that matter -- needs to be on Xanax or possibly Thorazine.</p>
<p>And accusing me of both ignorance and insanity is sophomoric on your part in that you've cast the first epithet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Palin could be called an apostate, though her parents could.  They left the Catholic Church for AoG when she was a small child.  This unfortunately often happens when Catholics move to someplace where the Church is thin on the ground (Alaska would certainly fit that descrption) and the independent churches and the pentecostal and evangelical churches are right there, are fully staffed and are exciting.  Poorly catechised Catholics will fall for this.  Southwest Virginia, for example, has a number of people with Polish and Italian names, but they aren&#039;t Catholic.  Their ancestors were, they came down there to work the coal mines, there were no priests or few and far between, little mission churches sharing a priest, miles and miles apart, and they lost the faith.

There&#039;s a group on a Catholic blog which is praying for the return of Mrs. Palin to the Faith.  Well, why not, it worked for Clarence Thomas!  I will join in their intentions.  

I have been intending to write in Ron Paul for prez.  Kearney Smith, you raise some excellent points.  Obama sounds good when he speaks but some of his associates....well!  And his abortion views are what give me pause considering some of the Justices on the Supreme Court are pretty old.  Not that just putting the right Justices up there is going to get rid of abortion and some of the Reagan-Bush I Justices have been a sore disappointment.  But Obama justices are bound to be and also there&#039;s a lot of other mischief they can do with other Constitutional questions.  So I fear a vote for 3rd Party or write in when I used to be a pretty reliable Republican vote, is the same as a vote for Obama.  I guess it depends on how your state is going.  If you live in a reliably blue state, write in anyone you wish as a protest.  If it&#039;s reliably red, same thing.  If it&#039;s close and in play like the state I live in, better think twice, which the husband and I are doing.  And pray for guidance.  Funny how we always think of that last!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think Palin could be called an apostate, though her parents could.  They left the Catholic Church for AoG when she was a small child.  This unfortunately often happens when Catholics move to someplace where the Church is thin on the ground (Alaska would certainly fit that descrption) and the independent churches and the pentecostal and evangelical churches are right there, are fully staffed and are exciting.  Poorly catechised Catholics will fall for this.  Southwest Virginia, for example, has a number of people with Polish and Italian names, but they aren't Catholic.  Their ancestors were, they came down there to work the coal mines, there were no priests or few and far between, little mission churches sharing a priest, miles and miles apart, and they lost the faith.</p>
<p>There's a group on a Catholic blog which is praying for the return of Mrs. Palin to the Faith.  Well, why not, it worked for Clarence Thomas!  I will join in their intentions.  </p>
<p>I have been intending to write in Ron Paul for prez.  Kearney Smith, you raise some excellent points.  Obama sounds good when he speaks but some of his associates....well!  And his abortion views are what give me pause considering some of the Justices on the Supreme Court are pretty old.  Not that just putting the right Justices up there is going to get rid of abortion and some of the Reagan-Bush I Justices have been a sore disappointment.  But Obama justices are bound to be and also there's a lot of other mischief they can do with other Constitutional questions.  So I fear a vote for 3rd Party or write in when I used to be a pretty reliable Republican vote, is the same as a vote for Obama.  I guess it depends on how your state is going.  If you live in a reliably blue state, write in anyone you wish as a protest.  If it's reliably red, same thing.  If it's close and in play like the state I live in, better think twice, which the husband and I are doing.  And pray for guidance.  Funny how we always think of that last!</p>
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		<title>By: Chesterbelloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chesterbelloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirt-

If powerless neocon twerps were able to take over the Republican Party without a shot, what&#039;s to stop us from taking it back for ourselves?  I don&#039;t dismiss Democrats like Bob Conley or third-party candidates like Bob Barr, but I think Buchanan, Ron Paul, etc. are on to something by staying with the Republicans.  We should never endorse the nuts, but let&#039;s mess up the works until the party can&#039;t win without us!  Call it an insurgency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirt-</p>
<p>If powerless neocon twerps were able to take over the Republican Party without a shot, what's to stop us from taking it back for ourselves?  I don't dismiss Democrats like Bob Conley or third-party candidates like Bob Barr, but I think Buchanan, Ron Paul, etc. are on to something by staying with the Republicans.  We should never endorse the nuts, but let's mess up the works until the party can't win without us!  Call it an insurgency.</p>
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		<title>By: Kearney Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kearney Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the roundtable called for a focus on the Palin candidacy, Buchanan&#039;s foray into a broader set of issues is to be commended.  Probably everything that needs to be said about Palin&#039;s private life -- including her and her daughter&#039;s ovaries -- has been said.

Certainly larger issues are at stake and, like it or not, the next president will be dealing with other issues not really related to  Palin&#039;s family problems.  And I would add, the next president will nominate probably two Supreme Court Justices, and I&#039;m reasonably sure that the people on Chronicles will not like Obama&#039;s appointees. Moreover, Obama&#039;s spiritual advisor---God-Damn-America Wright probably knows more about Obama&#039;s real intentions for the United States than most voters of either party.  So in light of these realities Buchanan is wise to identify with the GOP.

Bush is wrong to expand the Iraq adventure which has already solidified Jihad against us Infidels. But using Kant&#039;s measure for blame,  I would say Bush willed good but  did not produce just good things with the invasion of Iraq.   I think McCain--  with whatever warts or other imperfections he may have---is the only reasonable choice at this time.  He, better than most people, knows first-hand the horrors of war and will be wiser in dealing with our real enemy  (not terror but the unremorseful perpetrators of heinous acts against people---civilians, women and children.).   The differences we have with Russia pale by comparison with the differences we have with the real enemy.   The tools against our major enemy cannot be fought even largely with our military.  It will be a long struggle that must begin with an accurate assessment of what we face and a new strategy for saving ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the roundtable called for a focus on the Palin candidacy, Buchanan's foray into a broader set of issues is to be commended.  Probably everything that needs to be said about Palin's private life -- including her and her daughter's ovaries -- has been said.</p>
<p>Certainly larger issues are at stake and, like it or not, the next president will be dealing with other issues not really related to  Palin's family problems.  And I would add, the next president will nominate probably two Supreme Court Justices, and I'm reasonably sure that the people on Chronicles will not like Obama's appointees. Moreover, Obama's spiritual advisor---God-Damn-America Wright probably knows more about Obama's real intentions for the United States than most voters of either party.  So in light of these realities Buchanan is wise to identify with the GOP.</p>
<p>Bush is wrong to expand the Iraq adventure which has already solidified Jihad against us Infidels. But using Kant's measure for blame,  I would say Bush willed good but  did not produce just good things with the invasion of Iraq.   I think McCain--  with whatever warts or other imperfections he may have---is the only reasonable choice at this time.  He, better than most people, knows first-hand the horrors of war and will be wiser in dealing with our real enemy  (not terror but the unremorseful perpetrators of heinous acts against people---civilians, women and children.).   The differences we have with Russia pale by comparison with the differences we have with the real enemy.   The tools against our major enemy cannot be fought even largely with our military.  It will be a long struggle that must begin with an accurate assessment of what we face and a new strategy for saving ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: yar</title>
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		<dc:creator>yar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Etienne, you could admit to being wrong in many less words. Disparaging the source - without providing an alternative-  is the lamest defence of one&#039;s ignorance. WaPo is often a total garbage(can&#039;t argue with that), but any paper that &quot;puts America first&#039; would be no better than the filthiest Commie or Nazi propaganda. So the fact that WaPo doesn&#039;t do it is actually something of an endorsement. 
 Is that what you are reading for your own enlightenment? &quot;America first&quot; stuff?  That&#039;s your definition of &quot;objective info&quot;? Let me know, maybe I&#039;ll help you with your own Xanax polls, if have trouble affording them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Etienne, you could admit to being wrong in many less words. Disparaging the source - without providing an alternative-  is the lamest defence of one's ignorance. WaPo is often a total garbage(can't argue with that), but any paper that "puts America first' would be no better than the filthiest Commie or Nazi propaganda. So the fact that WaPo doesn't do it is actually something of an endorsement.<br />
 Is that what you are reading for your own enlightenment? "America first" stuff?  That's your definition of "objective info"? Let me know, maybe I'll help you with your own Xanax polls, if have trouble affording them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Benedict</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Benedict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Richert @23

I was impressed by the clever skewering of Obama by both of these. I thought Giuliani might make a good stand-up comic. I would certainly never have voted for him for president. As a Catholic I would never vote for a pro-abortion candidate (especially a &quot;Catholic&quot; one). As for Palin, I don&#039;t know that much about her yet, but am not happy to hear that she is an apostate.
I am glad, though, to see her stand up against that Marxist Obama and his powerful friends. Anyone in her position who can successfully put down the MSM in front of 40 million viewers has got my attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Richert @23</p>
<p>I was impressed by the clever skewering of Obama by both of these. I thought Giuliani might make a good stand-up comic. I would certainly never have voted for him for president. As a Catholic I would never vote for a pro-abortion candidate (especially a "Catholic" one). As for Palin, I don't know that much about her yet, but am not happy to hear that she is an apostate.<br />
I am glad, though, to see her stand up against that Marxist Obama and his powerful friends. Anyone in her position who can successfully put down the MSM in front of 40 million viewers has got my attention.</p>
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