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		<title>By: A Mormon</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Mormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy your posts Dr. Wilson.  It amused me that you chose to single out the Book of Moroni.  Much like your posts here, Moroni, and his father Mormon, wrote as troubled observers of a civilization that was in freefall.  Regardless of whether you believe the book to be inspired or not, surely you can relate to this passage.  

  11 O my beloved son, how can a people like this, that are without civilization— 
  12 (And only a few years have passed away, and they were a civil and a delightsome people) 
  13 But O my son, how can a people like this, whose delight is in so much abomination— 
  14 How can we expect that God will stay his hand in judgment against us?...
  18 O the depravity of my people! They are without order and without mercy. Behold, I am but a man, and I have but the strength of a man, and I cannot any longer enforce my commands. 
  19 And they have become strong in their perversion; and they are alike brutal, sparing none, neither old nor young; and they delight in everything save that which is good; and the suffering of our women and our children upon all the face of this land doth exceed everything; yea, tongue cannot tell, neither can it be written. 

  Moroni:9:11-14,18,19</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy your posts Dr. Wilson.  It amused me that you chose to single out the Book of Moroni.  Much like your posts here, Moroni, and his father Mormon, wrote as troubled observers of a civilization that was in freefall.  Regardless of whether you believe the book to be inspired or not, surely you can relate to this passage.  </p>
<p>  11 O my beloved son, how can a people like this, that are without civilization—<br />
  12 (And only a few years have passed away, and they were a civil and a delightsome people)<br />
  13 But O my son, how can a people like this, whose delight is in so much abomination—<br />
  14 How can we expect that God will stay his hand in judgment against us?...<br />
  18 O the depravity of my people! They are without order and without mercy. Behold, I am but a man, and I have but the strength of a man, and I cannot any longer enforce my commands.<br />
  19 And they have become strong in their perversion; and they are alike brutal, sparing none, neither old nor young; and they delight in everything save that which is good; and the suffering of our women and our children upon all the face of this land doth exceed everything; yea, tongue cannot tell, neither can it be written. </p>
<p>  Moroni:9:11-14,18,19</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dr. Wilson that many of the beliefs of the Mormon church are not Christian and that the whole movement may, in fact, meet the definition of a cult.  However, I have to say that I have never met a Mormon that I did not like, and who did not live, what meets the definition of a Christian life. There was a Mormon church about 1/4 of a mile from where I grew up and I had occasion to meet menay Mormons who lived in my area.  To a man (or woman) they were all very polite, respectful, and helpful, as well as being very good and kind to others.  

I was driving through eastern Oregon a few years ago, on a desolate stretch of road, when I came upon an elderly couple who had run out of gas.  I drove them to the nearest gas station, which was 30 miles away and then drove them back to their car.  During the drive they mentioned that they were Mormons from Salt Lake and they had been visiting their daughter in Seattle.  The wife, in her late 70s, mentioned that when she was a child she was sent to live in NYC for a few years.  She told me how mean the other kids were to her and that they asked her several times to see her &quot;horns,&quot; because they had heard that Mormons were evil and had horns like the Devil.  

They thanked me for being so kind and invited me to visit any time I was in Utah.  This was five years ago and every Christmas I still recieve a card from them with a wish for a blessed Christmas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dr. Wilson that many of the beliefs of the Mormon church are not Christian and that the whole movement may, in fact, meet the definition of a cult.  However, I have to say that I have never met a Mormon that I did not like, and who did not live, what meets the definition of a Christian life. There was a Mormon church about 1/4 of a mile from where I grew up and I had occasion to meet menay Mormons who lived in my area.  To a man (or woman) they were all very polite, respectful, and helpful, as well as being very good and kind to others.  </p>
<p>I was driving through eastern Oregon a few years ago, on a desolate stretch of road, when I came upon an elderly couple who had run out of gas.  I drove them to the nearest gas station, which was 30 miles away and then drove them back to their car.  During the drive they mentioned that they were Mormons from Salt Lake and they had been visiting their daughter in Seattle.  The wife, in her late 70s, mentioned that when she was a child she was sent to live in NYC for a few years.  She told me how mean the other kids were to her and that they asked her several times to see her "horns," because they had heard that Mormons were evil and had horns like the Devil.  </p>
<p>They thanked me for being so kind and invited me to visit any time I was in Utah.  This was five years ago and every Christmas I still recieve a card from them with a wish for a blessed Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Collins...............................I laughed out loud when I read that. So true man, thanks.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Collins...............................I laughed out loud when I read that. So true man, thanks.......</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe any presidents before Lincoln could be any worse - in intelligence or character - than the recent occupants of the White House. 

As far as judging presidents of yesteryear as lacking in political ability is concerned, witness the savaging of James Buchanan as our worst (i.e. &quot;dumbest&quot;) president by historians, simply because he didn&#039;t want to wage a bloody war against his own people to keep them from pursuing the freedom to govern themselves. Who wouldn&#039;t prefer a &quot;dummy&quot; like a James Buchanan over the mediocre lot we have for presidential candidates these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't believe any presidents before Lincoln could be any worse - in intelligence or character - than the recent occupants of the White House. </p>
<p>As far as judging presidents of yesteryear as lacking in political ability is concerned, witness the savaging of James Buchanan as our worst (i.e. "dumbest") president by historians, simply because he didn't want to wage a bloody war against his own people to keep them from pursuing the freedom to govern themselves. Who wouldn't prefer a "dummy" like a James Buchanan over the mediocre lot we have for presidential candidates these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Maxwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Maxwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Kabala.

Yes, &#039;unintelligent&#039; is not a term I used.  Perhaps &#039;naive&#039; would be the best word to use for the Adams presidency, rather than &#039;dumb&#039;.

Dr. Wilson, point taken.  The Republicans, with only a couple exceptions, have had what amount to dumb puppets as their presidential candidates since day 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kabala.</p>
<p>Yes, 'unintelligent' is not a term I used.  Perhaps 'naive' would be the best word to use for the Adams presidency, rather than 'dumb'.</p>
<p>Dr. Wilson, point taken.  The Republicans, with only a couple exceptions, have had what amount to dumb puppets as their presidential candidates since day 1.</p>
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		<title>By: roho</title>
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		<dc:creator>roho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are they dumb, but raise their own self image by choosing even dumber allies such as the President of Georgia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are they dumb, but raise their own self image by choosing even dumber allies such as the President of Georgia.</p>
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		<title>By: Clyde Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clyde Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some folks are, I think, missing my point about Dumb Presidents.  Not every bad  president is necessarily dumb, but every dumb president is necessarily bad.  John Adams was a bad President, his son even worse, but they were not dull-witted.  The Republican Party (and yes the predecessor Whigs) has spoecialised in putting forth dull-witted rich boys and plausible empty suits for high office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some folks are, I think, missing my point about Dumb Presidents.  Not every bad  president is necessarily dumb, but every dumb president is necessarily bad.  John Adams was a bad President, his son even worse, but they were not dull-witted.  The Republican Party (and yes the predecessor Whigs) has spoecialised in putting forth dull-witted rich boys and plausible empty suits for high office.</p>
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		<title>By: James Kabala</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kabala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Maxwell: John Adams certainly had a number of flaws and weaknesses, but I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard unintelligence given as one of them before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Maxwell: John Adams certainly had a number of flaws and weaknesses, but I don't think I've ever heard unintelligence given as one of them before.</p>
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		<title>By: David Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: polemicscat</title>
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		<dc:creator>polemicscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that many Republican Presidents have had, at best, only average intelligence. Eisenhour and Reagan come to mind, but both succeeded  because of their moral judgement and common sense.

But I would draw attention to the fact that a combination of high intelligence and malevolence is the worst possible combination of traits in a person with power.  Examples of people with these  these two traits come to mind for anybody who thinks about it.  

Unfortunately, intelligence in such people not only facilitates evil schemes  but often causes admiration in other who value intelligence for its own sake.  

The pernicious acts of Lincoln, for instance, are often excused by amoral people because of his rhetorical skills and clever political strategies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that many Republican Presidents have had, at best, only average intelligence. Eisenhour and Reagan come to mind, but both succeeded  because of their moral judgement and common sense.</p>
<p>But I would draw attention to the fact that a combination of high intelligence and malevolence is the worst possible combination of traits in a person with power.  Examples of people with these  these two traits come to mind for anybody who thinks about it.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, intelligence in such people not only facilitates evil schemes  but often causes admiration in other who value intelligence for its own sake.  </p>
<p>The pernicious acts of Lincoln, for instance, are often excused by amoral people because of his rhetorical skills and clever political strategies.</p>
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