Comments on: One Nation Under Obama

By: Robert Alpert

Robert Alpert — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:30:46 +0000

I have never understood what was "left" about Obama--I am always puzzled by the way it is used by conservatives. Jean Jaures E.P. Thompson for that matter Arthur Scargill count as left-- take them or leave them. Dr. Fleming is much more on target when he compares Obama to the loathsome Madonna (Blonde Ambition), in fact it is the best characterization of the Obama campaign I have come upon. The detestable cohort that Dr. Fleming describes as anti-American Marxist Left I believe are better viewed as moral narcissists (to crib Robert Penn Warren's phrase) --largely Northerners and descendants of the racist northern abolitionists -- who as Warren observed (and as Dr. Fleming I think observes) believe they hold the key to the "treasury of virtue".

By: Fleming on Obama and Patriotism « The Vermont Traditionalist

Fleming on Obama and Patriotism « The Vermont Traditionalist — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:42:46 +0000

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By: NGPM

NGPM — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:17:57 +0000

@58: Not every white supremacist is descended from old-stock New England Puritans--or, arguably, even has any meaningful ancestry. Dr. Fleming writes of Mr. Grady that perhaps he "has a family somewhere, probably," but nowadays you can never frankly be sure. There are many in my generation who do indeed have families and even well-meaning and hard-working yet completely deracinated families. It is that latter that is the key to understanding this all. Most young, white Americans do not have a real community in which to seek refuge. (I seriously doubt anyone here would suggest that West Coast strip malls and suburbs actually resemble real towns or places.) If they are lucky, they've got their parents' culturally sterile McMansion and a little cash. To be caught dependant on this tenuous lifeline is a dangerous thing especially given the volatility of the present economy, and white nationalism, perverse as it may be, at least has the attraction of appearing to take action about a very serious problem, and as the memory of Hitler fades into the past it can scarcely be discounted as "spent." In the 1960's Catholic and Jewish children rebelled against their upbringings and became Marxists. In the 1980's they became disgusted with SDS and joined the GOP as [literal] neo-conservatives. The present leftist resurgence clearly lacks the thrust and substance of 1960's radicalism and may just represent a last gasp after all. In the next few years we may well see an increasing number from my generation succumb to the White Nationalist virus. The present state of affairs and the inevitable harm our incumbent leaders will do point in that direction. Frightening times indeed. Choose your poison.

By: NGPM

NGPM — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:46:07 +0000

"I can well understand conservatives who will not vote for McCain. I cannot understand how anyone claiming to be a conservative could even consider voting for such a leftist charlatan as Barack Obama."

No one in any of my social circles has had the audacity to admit to me that he voted for McCain in the primaries or intends to vote for Obama in the general election. I am told one of my cousins supports the latter, but I have not even seen that fellow in about three years.

An Obama presidency will easily seal the fate of the rapidly degenerating U.S.A., which given the harm we have spread to the world since rebelling against the British crown would be a welcome end, except that in this case it represents a total devastation of the general population rather than a simple political upheaval.

May God have mercy on my children, that they be born and raised on foreign soil.

By: John Zander

John Zander — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:27:28 +0000

#58 "...They are both self-centered, short-sighted, hypocritical, and abstraction-mad. The only difference is the latter can’t afford safe neighbourhoods and private schools." -Clyde W. Yes the latter, the abstraction-mad must *imbalance in that direction for their release of endorphins, the brain's natural painkillers...to compensate them for finding out their short-sighted, & hypocritical leaders fed them to the dogs. We all need [thanks God and mother Nature] our natural processes such as endorphin release - some of us being aware of it, as well as the need for civilization - don't get as sadly bamboozled as the abrstractionists. What's the best reason to be a conservative - we say bite the bullet, don't eat it imagining it's a biscuit. In other words wipe the clouds [abstractions or pretty lies] from your eyes - it ain't so bad out here, then. If enough of you idiots will STOP doing that bogus stuff. They're already planning your next war - since it feeds you that imagery you crave.

By: Clyde Wilson

Clyde Wilson — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:23:15 +0000

Pardon my French. but I see little difference in character between Yankee egalitarians and Yankee white supremacists. They are both self-centered, short-sighted, hypocritical, and abstraction-mad. The only difference is the latter can't afford safe neighbourhoods and private schools.

By: Mike Ezzo

Mike Ezzo — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:43:50 +0000

Dr. Fleming I don't remember Shahin, but Horace Grady is offensive enough for me. Thank, and God bless you for discouraging his ilk from poluting your website. It amazes me how people cannot distinguish between a reasonable candidness towards obvious racial differences on one hand; and outright bitter hatred of all but one's own kind on the other. Or maybe they can distinguish. They know you are of the former persuasion, and they descend on this site in order to convert you and recruit you to the latter one.

By: Clyde Wilson

Clyde Wilson — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:54:23 +0000

Dr. Fleming, in my experience those you describe are people who would have been participating in civil rights protests a few years ago to enforce equality on other people, and turn white supremacists only after they are personally affected in some way.

By: TJF

TJF — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:20:34 +0000

My two columns on political questions that involve race are an illustration of why it is virtually impossible to discuss such matters today. On the one hand, we are assailed by globalist-leftists who want us to shed tears over the fate of colonial Africans whose conditions have been vastly worsened by national independence. On the other hand, we have the marginalized young men who want to strike out at anyone who will not support their own liberation movement--whose members it is more polite not to describe. As Sam Francis--far from being sensitive on any of these issues--used to say, we can only discuss race, immigration, etc., if "we keep the brownshirts out." As an amateur student of anthropology, I am familiar with the phenomenon of the peripheral male, but it is a sad thing to contemplate in our own people.

By: TJF

TJF — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:53:41 +0000

In what sort of laboratory do they manufacture people like HG? He is like one of those zombies imagined by Louis Farrakhan or the editors of Commentary, a living refutation of every claim to superiority advanced by Western man. The best part is his manners. He blunders onto the website of a magazine that was fighting the immigration battle before he was born and now wants to lecture its editors on the threat of Third World immigration. The worst part of this is that here at home I do not have the capacity to edit my column and must get up and go to the office. My Lord, what we have fallen to in this country. And what a choice we have between the Shahins who hate us because we are European and the the Gradys who hate everything because they love nothing, not even the Great White Race which they disgrace.

By the way, I think I know the black Latin Mass Catholic MGB was describing, and there are several in my own parish. Human life is strange and cannot be reduced to one dimension, whether it is race, nationality, religion, or even intelligence. Poor Mr. Grady has a family somewhere, probably, and friends and perhaps even harmless interests like illustrated novels or building model cars. As a wise man once wrote:

When the felon's not engaged in his employment/Or maturing his felonious little plan,/His capacity for innocent enjoyment/Is just as great as any honest man...When the enterprising burglar's not a burgling,/Or maturing his felonious little plan,/He loves to hear the little brook a-gurgling/As much as any honest man/...