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		<title>By: Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture &#124; Your Home for Traditional Conservatism &#187; Defamation vs. Poor Jurnalism: My B92 TV Interview</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/07/01/obama-the-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-180900</link>
		<dc:creator>Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture &#124; Your Home for Traditional Conservatism &#187; Defamation vs. Poor Jurnalism: My B92 TV Interview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; does appear. This was an inept translation of an article published on this site on July 1 (Obama the “Patriot”) in which the term used to describe McCain was not &#8220;cockroach&#8221; but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; does appear. This was an inept translation of an article published on this site on July 1 (Obama the “Patriot”) in which the term used to describe McCain was not &#8220;cockroach&#8221; but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/07/01/obama-the-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-168595</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If it’s Barack Hussein Obama, we’ll have a massive, revolutionary shift away from the real, historical America—the country that all true patriots love and cherish—into a mutant hybrid unfit for a cultivated person to live in.&quot;

The shift will just accelerate.  This shift has been underway since the founding of the Republic.  Twenty-first century American culture is a pretty ghastly pool of financial, political, and moral bankruptcy. It reels like a drunkard.

The historical America that all true patriots love and cherish definitively died in 1865 with the defeat of the South and has been dying progressively ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"If it’s Barack Hussein Obama, we’ll have a massive, revolutionary shift away from the real, historical America—the country that all true patriots love and cherish—into a mutant hybrid unfit for a cultivated person to live in."</p>
<p>The shift will just accelerate.  This shift has been underway since the founding of the Republic.  Twenty-first century American culture is a pretty ghastly pool of financial, political, and moral bankruptcy. It reels like a drunkard.</p>
<p>The historical America that all true patriots love and cherish definitively died in 1865 with the defeat of the South and has been dying progressively ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomislav Milosevic</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/07/01/obama-the-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-168530</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomislav Milosevic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long time ago we begun to vote. Like, all of us. We gave our vote to The Guy. Later we voted against the Other Guy. Recently we are confused. A lot.
Yeah, may God help us all.
Providing expensive, useless, meaningless &quot;choice&quot; was patented by any sadistic hypocrisy in History, best represented by &quot;communists&quot;, of course, but ever spread well beyond certain &quot;curtains&quot;. That is, at last, &quot;crystally clear&quot; to all.
Point of &quot;democracy&quot; is absolute denial of it as it goes.
Applause?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long time ago we begun to vote. Like, all of us. We gave our vote to The Guy. Later we voted against the Other Guy. Recently we are confused. A lot.<br />
Yeah, may God help us all.<br />
Providing expensive, useless, meaningless "choice" was patented by any sadistic hypocrisy in History, best represented by "communists", of course, but ever spread well beyond certain "curtains". That is, at last, "crystally clear" to all.<br />
Point of "democracy" is absolute denial of it as it goes.<br />
Applause?</p>
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		<title>By: The young fogey</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/07/01/obama-the-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-168502</link>
		<dc:creator>The young fogey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&#039;The bemused view of most of us down here in
Melbourne is that Obama is nothing more than a vacuous televangelist - a man who manages to say nothing while blathering feel-good rhetoric in spades.&#039;&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly my experience seeing and hearing the man in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>'The bemused view of most of us down here in<br />
Melbourne is that Obama is nothing more than a vacuous televangelist - a man who manages to say nothing while blathering feel-good rhetoric in spades.'</i></p>
<p>Exactly my experience seeing and hearing the man in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture &#124; Your Home for Traditional Conservatism &#187; Church and Nation: A Credal Nation, Part 3</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/07/01/obama-the-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-168392</link>
		<dc:creator>Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture &#124; Your Home for Traditional Conservatism &#187; Church and Nation: A Credal Nation, Part 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Patriotism Tour&#8221; speech (discussed recently by Dr. Fleming and Dr. Trifkovic) lies the concept of credal nationhood. In the previous two installments of &#8220;Church and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Patriotism Tour&#8221; speech (discussed recently by Dr. Fleming and Dr. Trifkovic) lies the concept of credal nationhood. In the previous two installments of &#8220;Church and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Scallon</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/07/01/obama-the-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-168370</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Scallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may very well be that a choice between Obama and McCain is the choice between death by hemlock or cyanide, but from an opposition standpoint there are advantages to having Obama win the White House than John McCain.

If there is a McCain presidency, it would be very difficult to mount an effective oppsition to it within the Republican Party. As we saw during the primaries, Republican voters tend to have pathological support of &quot;the leader&quot; or any kind of &quot;leader&quot; that presents himself as such. This why McCain won. He stayed loyal to the war in Iraq, loyal to the President&#039;s overall policy and gave himself credit for advocating better strategy for that war, helping out the commander-in-chief.  Ron Paul himself noted that support for the war among many Republicans was out of party loyalty for the war they started and loyalty to the President as commander-in-chief (this goes to show that the military-industrial complex, more so than the so-called &quot;Christian Right&quot; or &quot;economic conservatives&quot; calls the shots in the modern GOP).  A McCain presidency would make it impossible to oppose McCain&#039;s neocon policies from within the GOP because no politician would stick their necks out to oppose someone as hair-tempered and as vindictive as McCain and most rank and filers would support McCain out of that same sense of loyalty, perverted though it may be.

With Obama the situation completely changes. Now it&#039;s the Democrats that are in charge now it is Obama ideology that is front and center for conservatives to oppose and the neocons, who would not fundementally reject what Obama says, get squeezed out. It&#039;s the same situation that presented itself with Bill Clinton&#039;s arrival as President back in 1992. It was easy to create an effective conservative opposition to Clinton in the early 1990s than it would have been had George Bush I been re-elected. There would have been no Republican Revolution had the latter happened. A badly beaten GOP with McCain and the neocons utterly discredited, leaves a wide open GOP with a vacumn to fill and that vacumn can be filled with clear opposition to Obama&#039;s Jacobism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may very well be that a choice between Obama and McCain is the choice between death by hemlock or cyanide, but from an opposition standpoint there are advantages to having Obama win the White House than John McCain.</p>
<p>If there is a McCain presidency, it would be very difficult to mount an effective oppsition to it within the Republican Party. As we saw during the primaries, Republican voters tend to have pathological support of "the leader" or any kind of "leader" that presents himself as such. This why McCain won. He stayed loyal to the war in Iraq, loyal to the President's overall policy and gave himself credit for advocating better strategy for that war, helping out the commander-in-chief.  Ron Paul himself noted that support for the war among many Republicans was out of party loyalty for the war they started and loyalty to the President as commander-in-chief (this goes to show that the military-industrial complex, more so than the so-called "Christian Right" or "economic conservatives" calls the shots in the modern GOP).  A McCain presidency would make it impossible to oppose McCain's neocon policies from within the GOP because no politician would stick their necks out to oppose someone as hair-tempered and as vindictive as McCain and most rank and filers would support McCain out of that same sense of loyalty, perverted though it may be.</p>
<p>With Obama the situation completely changes. Now it's the Democrats that are in charge now it is Obama ideology that is front and center for conservatives to oppose and the neocons, who would not fundementally reject what Obama says, get squeezed out. It's the same situation that presented itself with Bill Clinton's arrival as President back in 1992. It was easy to create an effective conservative opposition to Clinton in the early 1990s than it would have been had George Bush I been re-elected. There would have been no Republican Revolution had the latter happened. A badly beaten GOP with McCain and the neocons utterly discredited, leaves a wide open GOP with a vacumn to fill and that vacumn can be filled with clear opposition to Obama's Jacobism.</p>
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		<title>By: Iliya Pavlovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iliya Pavlovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As in Edward Abbey&#039;s: &quot;A patriot must always be prepared to defend his country against his government&quot;

I wonder how one gets a working permit for Ireland, New Zealand, Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As in Edward Abbey's: "A patriot must always be prepared to defend his country against his government"</p>
<p>I wonder how one gets a working permit for Ireland, New Zealand, Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where do we move when he wins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where do we move when he wins?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Kamka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Kamka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If it’s Barack Hussein Obama, we’ll have a massive, revolutionary shift away from the real, historical America—the country that all true patriots love and cherish—into a mutant hybrid unfit for a cultivated person to live in.&quot;  True, but why is that statement relevant to most Amerikans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"If it’s Barack Hussein Obama, we’ll have a massive, revolutionary shift away from the real, historical America—the country that all true patriots love and cherish—into a mutant hybrid unfit for a cultivated person to live in."  True, but why is that statement relevant to most Amerikans?</p>
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		<title>By: John Zander</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Zander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget as Dr. Trifkovic pointed out McCain famously lost 5 taxpayers&#039; jets prior to having a sixth shot down, after which he was captured. (where&#039;s Rambo when you need him?) This apparently suggests a flying acumen (of the fourth or fifth to last in his graduating class) on a par with Budy Hackett&#039;s in the film &#039;It&#039;s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World&#039;, which I rented and watched the other night. Although I didn&#039;t find it as funny as I had when I was 10, I laughed occasionally and recommend it for the McCain Buddy Hackett analogy. The funniest moment for me today as a crazy adult, was when Jerry Lewis ran over Spencer Tracy&#039;s hat.

If you want to laugh like mad as an adult rent or buy the film: &quot;What About Bob?&quot; starrying Bill Murray. You can&#039;t do much better than Bill Murray as a comedic actor. You could die laughing - which I guess ain&#039;t a bad way to go.

Someone also suggested I don&#039;t think it was Dr. T., that the Viet Cong kicked McCain out of prisoner of war camp; finally figuring out he was more of a detriment to their enemies, if permitted to function in their behalf. OR maybe the chip was successfully implanted? Could he be the new manchurian candidate? (I can&#039;t imagine who would &#039;want&#039; to be president these days. Shouldn&#039;t they be disqualified on that basis alone?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's not forget as Dr. Trifkovic pointed out McCain famously lost 5 taxpayers' jets prior to having a sixth shot down, after which he was captured. (where's Rambo when you need him?) This apparently suggests a flying acumen (of the fourth or fifth to last in his graduating class) on a par with Budy Hackett's in the film 'It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World', which I rented and watched the other night. Although I didn't find it as funny as I had when I was 10, I laughed occasionally and recommend it for the McCain Buddy Hackett analogy. The funniest moment for me today as a crazy adult, was when Jerry Lewis ran over Spencer Tracy's hat.</p>
<p>If you want to laugh like mad as an adult rent or buy the film: "What About Bob?" starrying Bill Murray. You can't do much better than Bill Murray as a comedic actor. You could die laughing - which I guess ain't a bad way to go.</p>
<p>Someone also suggested I don't think it was Dr. T., that the Viet Cong kicked McCain out of prisoner of war camp; finally figuring out he was more of a detriment to their enemies, if permitted to function in their behalf. OR maybe the chip was successfully implanted? Could he be the new manchurian candidate? (I can't imagine who would 'want' to be president these days. Shouldn't they be disqualified on that basis alone?)</p>
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