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		<title>By: Hal K</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/27/the-eurabian-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-168579</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, the name &quot;Hal K&quot; was given for the two comments to which I was just responding, but I did not write them, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the name "Hal K" was given for the two comments to which I was just responding, but I did not write them, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal K</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/27/the-eurabian-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-168578</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the first comment, the reason why the comparatively lower immigration rate to Europe still has drastic effect on the demographics is that the birthrates among the indigenous European populations are lower.

In response to the second comment, I would not want to give greater emphasis to either low birthrates or immigration as the source of the problem.  They are both simultaneously causing the demographic shift, and in combination they are lethal to the prospects for the indigenous population maintaining a majority.

At the same time, if immigration were halted I tend to think that the native birthrates would eventually rebound.  This is just natural selection in a sense.  People who are more culturally conservative would have more children, which would eventually bring about a stabilization of the native population.  The problem with immigration is that it forecloses on the possibility of this occurring among the native population without a massive demographic shift towards a non-native population along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the first comment, the reason why the comparatively lower immigration rate to Europe still has drastic effect on the demographics is that the birthrates among the indigenous European populations are lower.</p>
<p>In response to the second comment, I would not want to give greater emphasis to either low birthrates or immigration as the source of the problem.  They are both simultaneously causing the demographic shift, and in combination they are lethal to the prospects for the indigenous population maintaining a majority.</p>
<p>At the same time, if immigration were halted I tend to think that the native birthrates would eventually rebound.  This is just natural selection in a sense.  People who are more culturally conservative would have more children, which would eventually bring about a stabilization of the native population.  The problem with immigration is that it forecloses on the possibility of this occurring among the native population without a massive demographic shift towards a non-native population along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal K</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/27/the-eurabian-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-168346</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal:

Why is there a mass immigration from Muslim countries to the EU, but not from Latin America  or South East Asia?

The EU will be the last place to go for a south eastern Asian prospective immigrant. He would most probably choose to go to Japan or S Korea or Singapore or Australia or Malaysia.

By the same logic the Latin Americans are expected to immigrate to the US. That&#039;s why we see Mexicans overrunning the US and Muslims overrunning the EU.

But all these factors pale in the face of reality, which is the unwillingness of the indigenous European and to some extent North Americans to procreate.
 
As you said &quot;the indigenous people of Europe must be truly mentally ill&quot;. By not having children, they are committing a collective suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal:</p>
<p>Why is there a mass immigration from Muslim countries to the EU, but not from Latin America  or South East Asia?</p>
<p>The EU will be the last place to go for a south eastern Asian prospective immigrant. He would most probably choose to go to Japan or S Korea or Singapore or Australia or Malaysia.</p>
<p>By the same logic the Latin Americans are expected to immigrate to the US. That's why we see Mexicans overrunning the US and Muslims overrunning the EU.</p>
<p>But all these factors pale in the face of reality, which is the unwillingness of the indigenous European and to some extent North Americans to procreate.</p>
<p>As you said "the indigenous people of Europe must be truly mentally ill". By not having children, they are committing a collective suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Hal:

I agree that the EU should change it&#039;s welfare system and stop rewarding  lazy people with the others money.

Now let&#039;s look at some estimates:


the European Union Population growth rate is:
	                                                              0.12% (2008 est.) 

Net migration rate:
                             1.46 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2008 est.) 



For the US the numbers are respectively:

                                   0.883% (2008 est.)
                                 
                                1.46 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2008 est.)
 


As you see, the Net migration rate of the EU is half of the US. It shows:
1) why The EU has a lower population growth than the US.
2) that the anti-immigrant voices are much stronger in the EU than the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Hal:</p>
<p>I agree that the EU should change it's welfare system and stop rewarding  lazy people with the others money.</p>
<p>Now let's look at some estimates:</p>
<p>the European Union Population growth rate is:<br />
	                                                              0.12% (2008 est.) </p>
<p>Net migration rate:<br />
                             1.46 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2008 est.) </p>
<p>For the US the numbers are respectively:</p>
<p>                                   0.883% (2008 est.)</p>
<p>                                1.46 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2008 est.)</p>
<p>As you see, the Net migration rate of the EU is half of the US. It shows:<br />
1) why The EU has a lower population growth than the US.<br />
2) that the anti-immigrant voices are much stronger in the EU than the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal K</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/27/the-eurabian-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-168343</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shahin:

The problem is not just the difference in birthrates but also that Europe continues to allow mass immigration from Muslim countries and provides welfare benefits to these immigrants and their offspring.

If European countries cannot bring themselves to halt Muslim immigration even after seeing the impending demographic takeover (resulting from a combination of high birthrates and immigration) then the indigenous people of Europe must be truly mentally ill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shahin:</p>
<p>The problem is not just the difference in birthrates but also that Europe continues to allow mass immigration from Muslim countries and provides welfare benefits to these immigrants and their offspring.</p>
<p>If European countries cannot bring themselves to halt Muslim immigration even after seeing the impending demographic takeover (resulting from a combination of high birthrates and immigration) then the indigenous people of Europe must be truly mentally ill.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The EU is the system of the enabling enemy, not the source of salvation.&quot;

That is certainly the case, which explains why so many major players in the EU wanted and continue to want Turkey to join it, which would lead to nearly unlimited immigration into the EU from a Muslim country.

And if Sarkozy, who seems to have some degree of sense, wasn&#039;t elected President of France, I really think they would&#039;ve forced it through by now.

By the way, did anyone see Georgie Anne Geyer&#039;s recent article &quot;Success of EU Should Not Depend on Irish Voters&quot;?  

It is an excellent demonstration of the fact that the hostility people like Geyer have shown to the Serbs also extends to any European people who dare to stand up to the EU.

It&#039;s almost like she wrote the article to confirm the truth of Davis&#039;s words: &quot;Why support Muslim terrorism in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians? Why permit Islam to grow with geometric speed within Europe’s borders and set the stage for civil war? Answer: because the millennial project of integrating Europe—a project agreed on by all mainstream parties on both sides of the Atlantic—and the larger project of globalization of which it is a part, cannot proceed as long as political opposition, centered on individual national identities, persists.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The EU is the system of the enabling enemy, not the source of salvation."</p>
<p>That is certainly the case, which explains why so many major players in the EU wanted and continue to want Turkey to join it, which would lead to nearly unlimited immigration into the EU from a Muslim country.</p>
<p>And if Sarkozy, who seems to have some degree of sense, wasn't elected President of France, I really think they would've forced it through by now.</p>
<p>By the way, did anyone see Georgie Anne Geyer's recent article "Success of EU Should Not Depend on Irish Voters"?  </p>
<p>It is an excellent demonstration of the fact that the hostility people like Geyer have shown to the Serbs also extends to any European people who dare to stand up to the EU.</p>
<p>It's almost like she wrote the article to confirm the truth of Davis's words: "Why support Muslim terrorism in Bosnia and Kosovo against Christians? Why permit Islam to grow with geometric speed within Europe’s borders and set the stage for civil war? Answer: because the millennial project of integrating Europe—a project agreed on by all mainstream parties on both sides of the Atlantic—and the larger project of globalization of which it is a part, cannot proceed as long as political opposition, centered on individual national identities, persists."</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ezzo</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/27/the-eurabian-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-168161</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ezzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Kenny it would be interesting for us non-Europeans to get the view of someone like you who actually lives there. What is your opinion about the presence of Muslims in Europe? Is the EU a strong (enough) force for keeping Islamic immigration down? Or do you mean that you don&#039;t want to keep it down at all? You imply that you know much more than what is being written on this website. If such be the case, could you point me to an essay that expresses your side of the debate? I would be grateful. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kenny it would be interesting for us non-Europeans to get the view of someone like you who actually lives there. What is your opinion about the presence of Muslims in Europe? Is the EU a strong (enough) force for keeping Islamic immigration down? Or do you mean that you don't want to keep it down at all? You imply that you know much more than what is being written on this website. If such be the case, could you point me to an essay that expresses your side of the debate? I would be grateful. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/27/the-eurabian-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-168134</link>
		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latinae @2,

The answer may well be the Fourth Crusade and the sack of Constantinople.  

Mr. Kenny,

&quot;the last thing we should do is dissolve the common front, i.e. the EU!&quot;

LOL!! You, sir, are hilarious.  &quot;Common front&quot;, indeed!  For marxism, the destruction of European culture and man.  If the EU is the front you are lining up behind, let&#039;s hope no one follows.  Did you even read the article (or any of a hundred posted here in the last few years)?  The EU is the system of the enabling enemy, not the source of salvation.  Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latinae @2,</p>
<p>The answer may well be the Fourth Crusade and the sack of Constantinople.  </p>
<p>Mr. Kenny,</p>
<p>"the last thing we should do is dissolve the common front, i.e. the EU!"</p>
<p>LOL!! You, sir, are hilarious.  "Common front", indeed!  For marxism, the destruction of European culture and man.  If the EU is the front you are lining up behind, let's hope no one follows.  Did you even read the article (or any of a hundred posted here in the last few years)?  The EU is the system of the enabling enemy, not the source of salvation.  Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/27/the-eurabian-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-168087</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not told the subject of Dr Davis&#039;s thesis but it manifestly did not concern either Islam or Europe, subject about which he clearly knows nothing! I am always amused by Americans&#039; tendency to pontificate in this way even when they know nothing about a subject. Of course, the best part is that if Europe was really being besieged by these Muslim hordes, then the last thing we should do is dissolve the common front, i.e. the EU! You can&#039;t have it both ways, Dr Davis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not told the subject of Dr Davis's thesis but it manifestly did not concern either Islam or Europe, subject about which he clearly knows nothing! I am always amused by Americans' tendency to pontificate in this way even when they know nothing about a subject. Of course, the best part is that if Europe was really being besieged by these Muslim hordes, then the last thing we should do is dissolve the common front, i.e. the EU! You can't have it both ways, Dr Davis!</p>
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		<title>By: Shahin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shahin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question from Mr. Davis.

Why do you think the Israeli Arabs are Outnumbering the Jewish Israelis?

Is there a plot performing by Israeli politicians against Israel, or are  them all bribed by Hamas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question from Mr. Davis.</p>
<p>Why do you think the Israeli Arabs are Outnumbering the Jewish Israelis?</p>
<p>Is there a plot performing by Israeli politicians against Israel, or are  them all bribed by Hamas?</p>
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