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	<title>Comments on: How Obama Won—and May Win</title>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/10/how-obama-won%e2%80%94and-may-win/comment-page-1/#comment-167450</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually,Horace,Theodore talks about &quot;waving an M16 at some terrified Arabs&quot;.I assume he is worried about being drafted and sent on to Iraq as you state.He&#039;s spot on about that.But,Horace and Theodore,think carefully about the following and quietly follow my instructions.Inevitably,you will need a sturdy weapon to wave at and,yes,terrify your enemy...as you try to hold this land.You may even need to use the bullets.I&#039;ve never suggested McCain can &quot;save&quot; us.Obama is only the Messiah P.T. Barnum prayed for.The only thing that saves you is your Bible and your gun.It may not save your life,but it will save your soul and reputation.Pray hard that you never have to take the rifle off the wall,but if you do offer your life to God and go down fighting.Plenty of Americans have &quot;waved M16s&quot; and they&#039;ll know how its done.Plenty know we&#039;ve been sold out.Plenty know that Islam is an enemy within the bosom of the West.I&#039;m signing off for good on this,but just the fact that I know my circle will fight back is the only optimism I&#039;ll ever need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually,Horace,Theodore talks about "waving an M16 at some terrified Arabs".I assume he is worried about being drafted and sent on to Iraq as you state.He's spot on about that.But,Horace and Theodore,think carefully about the following and quietly follow my instructions.Inevitably,you will need a sturdy weapon to wave at and,yes,terrify your enemy...as you try to hold this land.You may even need to use the bullets.I've never suggested McCain can "save" us.Obama is only the Messiah P.T. Barnum prayed for.The only thing that saves you is your Bible and your gun.It may not save your life,but it will save your soul and reputation.Pray hard that you never have to take the rifle off the wall,but if you do offer your life to God and go down fighting.Plenty of Americans have "waved M16s" and they'll know how its done.Plenty know we've been sold out.Plenty know that Islam is an enemy within the bosom of the West.I'm signing off for good on this,but just the fact that I know my circle will fight back is the only optimism I'll ever need.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not putting Theodore T down. I just want him to think about consequences of voting for Barack Obama. He is worried about being drafted and sent to Iraq. He is at that age.

McCain is insane in the clinical sense of the word. And he is capable of igniting something really big over in the middle east.

If a whole lot of American teenagers are killed, there will be tremendous pressure to bring back the draft.American male teenagers not serving in the American military are going to be in quite a bind.There will be questions raised about their  manhood at a time when other American teenagers die by the dozens every week.

Depending on how many American teenagers die each week, the case for a draft may become very compelling.

In this environment the only proper response is a very powerfull antiwar counterargument based upon deep moral principles. There would have to be call to bring all the American teenagers back home-out of Korea also. There would have to be a movement to pack off Jorge W Bush,Condalezza Rice. Donald Rumsfeld.Mary Maitlin,Dick Cheney  and Colin Powell off to the Hague to stand trial for crimes against humanity.

The cae against Barack Obama comes down to this:you shouldn&#039;t believe a word he says. Only a child would. Actually, the only thing you should take seriously is Barack Obama&#039;s very strong desire to reduce the Euro-American majority to a racial minority.

In general, anyone who aspires to be president of United States should viewed as a madman who embodies the worst traits in humanity:greed and a lust for power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not putting Theodore T down. I just want him to think about consequences of voting for Barack Obama. He is worried about being drafted and sent to Iraq. He is at that age.</p>
<p>McCain is insane in the clinical sense of the word. And he is capable of igniting something really big over in the middle east.</p>
<p>If a whole lot of American teenagers are killed, there will be tremendous pressure to bring back the draft.American male teenagers not serving in the American military are going to be in quite a bind.There will be questions raised about their  manhood at a time when other American teenagers die by the dozens every week.</p>
<p>Depending on how many American teenagers die each week, the case for a draft may become very compelling.</p>
<p>In this environment the only proper response is a very powerfull antiwar counterargument based upon deep moral principles. There would have to be call to bring all the American teenagers back home-out of Korea also. There would have to be a movement to pack off Jorge W Bush,Condalezza Rice. Donald Rumsfeld.Mary Maitlin,Dick Cheney  and Colin Powell off to the Hague to stand trial for crimes against humanity.</p>
<p>The cae against Barack Obama comes down to this:you shouldn't believe a word he says. Only a child would. Actually, the only thing you should take seriously is Barack Obama's very strong desire to reduce the Euro-American majority to a racial minority.</p>
<p>In general, anyone who aspires to be president of United States should viewed as a madman who embodies the worst traits in humanity:greed and a lust for power.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Borne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Borne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe we&#039;re doomed unless and until I say we are. Ok, we&#039;re doomed. I&#039;m kidding there&#039;s an old saying if you want to lead the band either get it to go the way it&#039;s going or when they&#039;re not looking get in the front. That don&#039;t work so well if it&#039;s doomed and going over the falls. (humor.) I could spell out otherwise but as you know - would they listen? And really who cares if they do or not. CheeriO. I like you Horace (really) you make me smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't believe we're doomed unless and until I say we are. Ok, we're doomed. I'm kidding there's an old saying if you want to lead the band either get it to go the way it's going or when they're not looking get in the front. That don't work so well if it's doomed and going over the falls. (humor.) I could spell out otherwise but as you know - would they listen? And really who cares if they do or not. CheeriO. I like you Horace (really) you make me smile.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t disagree about the probable economic consequences of Obama&#039;s possible election,Horace.It remains difficult to figure out what Obama actually thinks about anything.He follows orders from his wealthy radical masters and mentors.He probably is well trained enough now to anticipate what they expect him to do.But I cannot ascribe to this a form of &quot;belief&quot;,just a pattern of obedience.Now,mind you,Obama does believe in certain things:he believes he should be President.He also believes in hope.Thus ,if you believe in hope,too,he wants you to also believe he should be President.Finally,as to Theodore he&#039;s probably a decent young man.We all had political flirtations when we were young,and he&#039;ll get over it.I will not belittle or insult him;that will just harden him.I think Obama and Obamania is too absurd not to have a ton of laughs over.I am confident soon Theodore will shake his head in disbelief he had fainting spells over Obama.And when the prodigal Theodore returns lets all raise our glasses and say welcome back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don't disagree about the probable economic consequences of Obama's possible election,Horace.It remains difficult to figure out what Obama actually thinks about anything.He follows orders from his wealthy radical masters and mentors.He probably is well trained enough now to anticipate what they expect him to do.But I cannot ascribe to this a form of "belief",just a pattern of obedience.Now,mind you,Obama does believe in certain things:he believes he should be President.He also believes in hope.Thus ,if you believe in hope,too,he wants you to also believe he should be President.Finally,as to Theodore he's probably a decent young man.We all had political flirtations when we were young,and he'll get over it.I will not belittle or insult him;that will just harden him.I think Obama and Obamania is too absurd not to have a ton of laughs over.I am confident soon Theodore will shake his head in disbelief he had fainting spells over Obama.And when the prodigal Theodore returns lets all raise our glasses and say welcome back.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo

It is not all that difficult to figure out Barack Obama&#039;s econmic views. Neoliberal economic policies all the way. Take a look at the Ken Silverstien article on Barack Obama that came out last year in Harpers. Manufacturing jobs will be exported relaced by jobs ripping tickets in a theater. These are new jobs for grown men with families. White Americans will also be forced to compete with an even greater number of scab workers-legal immigrants-on a much much greater scale.

If Barack Obama is allowed to define the terms of the debate, White Americans are really doomed. As far as America interests go, there should be no debate. It is time that WE read them the riot act. The racial transformation of America should be opposed with every fibre of ones being.

What I would tell Theodore is this:stop looking for a dear leader. That is the kind of crap that goes on in North Korea.

Barack Obama will increase the scale of social,economic and environmental problems. And as a consequence, these nagging ,grinding social,economic and environamnetal problems will remain unsilvable for man years to come. If Theodore T. wants to be taken serioulsy, he should at least admit this.

WE are doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo</p>
<p>It is not all that difficult to figure out Barack Obama's econmic views. Neoliberal economic policies all the way. Take a look at the Ken Silverstien article on Barack Obama that came out last year in Harpers. Manufacturing jobs will be exported relaced by jobs ripping tickets in a theater. These are new jobs for grown men with families. White Americans will also be forced to compete with an even greater number of scab workers-legal immigrants-on a much much greater scale.</p>
<p>If Barack Obama is allowed to define the terms of the debate, White Americans are really doomed. As far as America interests go, there should be no debate. It is time that WE read them the riot act. The racial transformation of America should be opposed with every fibre of ones being.</p>
<p>What I would tell Theodore is this:stop looking for a dear leader. That is the kind of crap that goes on in North Korea.</p>
<p>Barack Obama will increase the scale of social,economic and environmental problems. And as a consequence, these nagging ,grinding social,economic and environamnetal problems will remain unsilvable for man years to come. If Theodore T. wants to be taken serioulsy, he should at least admit this.</p>
<p>WE are doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert

You got it nailed down pretty good. Who were these working class fools in WV who voted for HC? Was it a lesser of two evil strategy? Reallity has already sent some very strong signals that busines as usual will result in death and destruction. The signals will get stronger the next time around. It is ealy summer and we already hear news about a terrible drought in California. Just got back fom the Charlotte area. It was like an oven. No people to be seen outside. Everyone hiding inside the mcmansions in the central air conditioning controlled environmnet. The ponds are almost all dried up.America is a joke nation. But the signals keep comming. One day a really big one will arrive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert</p>
<p>You got it nailed down pretty good. Who were these working class fools in WV who voted for HC? Was it a lesser of two evil strategy? Reallity has already sent some very strong signals that busines as usual will result in death and destruction. The signals will get stronger the next time around. It is ealy summer and we already hear news about a terrible drought in California. Just got back fom the Charlotte area. It was like an oven. No people to be seen outside. Everyone hiding inside the mcmansions in the central air conditioning controlled environmnet. The ponds are almost all dried up.America is a joke nation. But the signals keep comming. One day a really big one will arrive.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is rather difficult to figure out Obama&#039;s economic views because he has no real record,his books are tedious race-operas and his speeches are little better than high school assembly Martin Luther King I Have A Dream spin-offs.Of course he&#039;s an owned servant of Soros and company.If you didn&#039;t know it yet,the Johnson appointment I refer to above seals the deal.Johnson is a close Soros associate.I suppose in the end it doesn&#039;t matter what he believes or even if he believes;he&#039;ll do as he always has what his masters tell him like the good machine stooge he&#039;s always been.He got busted lying to the voters in Ohio about NAFTA;but the willing dupes that support him refused to believe the Messiah was false.Well guess what dupes....your false Messiah has recently confirmed to his masters his support for NAFTA.He really did reassure Canada during the Ohio primary that he was lying to the voters about overhauling NAFTA.I want to add one last suggestion:Hilary is actually the perfect running mate for this fraud.Her venality will actually raise his integrity.She is a grasping corrupt multi-millionaire that can teach him how to steal better.She is adept at ignoring,justifying and stonewalling crimes from bank and securities fraud,bribery,treason,perverted practices,rape,etc.This was useful for the Man from Hope;it can now work for the Man of Hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is rather difficult to figure out Obama's economic views because he has no real record,his books are tedious race-operas and his speeches are little better than high school assembly Martin Luther King I Have A Dream spin-offs.Of course he's an owned servant of Soros and company.If you didn't know it yet,the Johnson appointment I refer to above seals the deal.Johnson is a close Soros associate.I suppose in the end it doesn't matter what he believes or even if he believes;he'll do as he always has what his masters tell him like the good machine stooge he's always been.He got busted lying to the voters in Ohio about NAFTA;but the willing dupes that support him refused to believe the Messiah was false.Well guess what dupes....your false Messiah has recently confirmed to his masters his support for NAFTA.He really did reassure Canada during the Ohio primary that he was lying to the voters about overhauling NAFTA.I want to add one last suggestion:Hilary is actually the perfect running mate for this fraud.Her venality will actually raise his integrity.She is a grasping corrupt multi-millionaire that can teach him how to steal better.She is adept at ignoring,justifying and stonewalling crimes from bank and securities fraud,bribery,treason,perverted practices,rape,etc.This was useful for the Man from Hope;it can now work for the Man of Hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Borne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Borne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horace you overlook I guess that it&#039;s all Leftist now, that the neo-left are called and are neo-cons. If you are saying well that&#039;s the context so lets make do and do the best we can ok. State-Capitalism is socialism for the rich and for whatever crumbs the rest of us can palm. It&#039;s been that way for almost 100 years. Yes Obama belongs to the rich in that system. The middle class and the poor don&#039;t own Obama. Hillary sensed they could &#039;smell&#039; that, and so she wanted to pretend she belongs to the middle class and the poor (they&#039;re almost by now one and the same), but she belongs inevitably to the rich in this system. That&#039;s the &#039;system&#039;. That&#039;s why the rich who can afford t.v. ads and own t.v. always do commercials from time to time vaunting how the &#039;answer&#039; IS the system. They forget to add in their commercials for themselves - &#039;for us.&#039; People are mostly still swine top-down. They don&#039;t know it&#039;s always an *occasion for indebtedness and responsibility. Rather they believe they have their own &#039;Purpose&#039; and that purpose is themselves, just like swine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horace you overlook I guess that it's all Leftist now, that the neo-left are called and are neo-cons. If you are saying well that's the context so lets make do and do the best we can ok. State-Capitalism is socialism for the rich and for whatever crumbs the rest of us can palm. It's been that way for almost 100 years. Yes Obama belongs to the rich in that system. The middle class and the poor don't own Obama. Hillary sensed they could 'smell' that, and so she wanted to pretend she belongs to the middle class and the poor (they're almost by now one and the same), but she belongs inevitably to the rich in this system. That's the 'system'. That's why the rich who can afford t.v. ads and own t.v. always do commercials from time to time vaunting how the 'answer' IS the system. They forget to add in their commercials for themselves - 'for us.' People are mostly still swine top-down. They don't know it's always an *occasion for indebtedness and responsibility. Rather they believe they have their own 'Purpose' and that purpose is themselves, just like swine.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barck Obama&#039;s economic advisor is a Chicago school/trained economist. You don&#039;t get any more anti-socialist than that.

Hilarly Clinton&#039;s Health care plan is largely a privaitized one also. Why do you think the insurance companies have been such  much money to Clintons since 1992.

You know, I don&#039;t think a scoiety organized the philosophy of the late Ayn Rand-&quot;spitual&quot; advisor to a young Alan Grreespan-will have any appeal to a majority of Euro-Americans. I write this with a high degree of confidence.

Another reason why the socialist charge against Barck Obama is silly.How do you think he was able to get this far? It is well documented that Obama has been on the take from Wall Street and Developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barck Obama's economic advisor is a Chicago school/trained economist. You don't get any more anti-socialist than that.</p>
<p>Hilarly Clinton's Health care plan is largely a privaitized one also. Why do you think the insurance companies have been such  much money to Clintons since 1992.</p>
<p>You know, I don't think a scoiety organized the philosophy of the late Ayn Rand-"spitual" advisor to a young Alan Grreespan-will have any appeal to a majority of Euro-Americans. I write this with a high degree of confidence.</p>
<p>Another reason why the socialist charge against Barck Obama is silly.How do you think he was able to get this far? It is well documented that Obama has been on the take from Wall Street and Developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harce Grady

What&#039;s wrong with socializing health care costs? Barack Obama is no for Socialized medicine(I am). Barack Obama is for a largely a pirvatized health care system. The insurance companies are very happy with Obama.

Left wing environmentalist are phony environmentalist. They are in favor of thecontinuing post-1965 immigration policy which will cause a massive increase in the number of non-whites and the US population.

The marxist charge against Barack Obama is just plain silly. Barack Obama is a corporatist. That is to say. corprate-powerfull ptivate tyrannies -will call the shots through Obama.</description>
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<p>What's wrong with socializing health care costs? Barack Obama is no for Socialized medicine(I am). Barack Obama is for a largely a pirvatized health care system. The insurance companies are very happy with Obama.</p>
<p>Left wing environmentalist are phony environmentalist. They are in favor of thecontinuing post-1965 immigration policy which will cause a massive increase in the number of non-whites and the US population.</p>
<p>The marxist charge against Barack Obama is just plain silly. Barack Obama is a corporatist. That is to say. corprate-powerfull ptivate tyrannies -will call the shots through Obama.</p>
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