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		<title>By: Tom Piatak</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/06/the-theology-of-painting/comment-page-1/#comment-167094</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Piatak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

The Spanish court remained found of dwarves after they had gone out of fashion in other European courts; Velazquez painted quite a few.

                                         --Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>The Spanish court remained found of dwarves after they had gone out of fashion in other European courts; Velazquez painted quite a few.</p>
<p>                                         --Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Check</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although Velazquez was painting well after the event, it is probably his dwarves that Chesterton refers to in his rather unflattering (and unfair) portrait of Philip II in his brilliant epic poem LEPANTO:

&quot;The walls are hung with velvet that is  black and soft as sin,
And little dwarves creep out if it, and little dwarves creep in.&quot;

We can cut GKC a little slack: Philip was, after all, the fellow who invaded his country, so a little healthy indulgence in some black legend on the part of an Englishman is acceptable.  

Thanks, Tom, for keeping an eye on the juvenilia that makes up so much of American Conservatism&#039;s presence on the web--but it must get awfully depressing.

--Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Velazquez was painting well after the event, it is probably his dwarves that Chesterton refers to in his rather unflattering (and unfair) portrait of Philip II in his brilliant epic poem LEPANTO:</p>
<p>"The walls are hung with velvet that is  black and soft as sin,<br />
And little dwarves creep out if it, and little dwarves creep in."</p>
<p>We can cut GKC a little slack: Philip was, after all, the fellow who invaded his country, so a little healthy indulgence in some black legend on the part of an Englishman is acceptable.  </p>
<p>Thanks, Tom, for keeping an eye on the juvenilia that makes up so much of American Conservatism's presence on the web--but it must get awfully depressing.</p>
<p>--Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Leaberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Leaberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several years ago, National Review disavowed the Confederacy and its soldiers, reversing its previous respect for the men in gray.  The new National Review has pretty much disavowed its old position on the Civil Rights bills of the 60s and many of its columnists were part of the anti-Trent Lott frenzy a few years back when he had the temerity to speak highly of Strom Thurmond and his 1948 Dixiecrat run for the presidency.  At this pace, one can only assume that Ronald Reagan will be disavowed sometime in the 2030s when neo-conservatism evolves once again leftwards.  Will Bill Clinton become a Truman-like figure for neo-conservatives before mid-century?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several years ago, National Review disavowed the Confederacy and its soldiers, reversing its previous respect for the men in gray.  The new National Review has pretty much disavowed its old position on the Civil Rights bills of the 60s and many of its columnists were part of the anti-Trent Lott frenzy a few years back when he had the temerity to speak highly of Strom Thurmond and his 1948 Dixiecrat run for the presidency.  At this pace, one can only assume that Ronald Reagan will be disavowed sometime in the 2030s when neo-conservatism evolves once again leftwards.  Will Bill Clinton become a Truman-like figure for neo-conservatives before mid-century?</p>
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		<title>By: michael warning</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael warning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Part of what makes America great is that we are part of a great civilization, of which Velázquez is one of the towering figures. If we cannot honor and remember those who contributed to that civilization before America was born, it is hard to see what will stop Western civilization from eventually descending into barbarism.”

I don’t buy this argument anymore that America is part of a great civilization. America is new. We have discarded and destroyed most of western civilization. Look at our current culture, what does it have to do with the culture found in Western Europe in 1500? Look at our form of Government what does it have to do with the Old Order of things? America is the leader in rejecting the Western Civilization of a Velázquez.

Would anyone here in America even fund such an artist as Velázquez today? It is time to realize that Our Country is not a defender of Western Civilization, but a destroyer. This is why the Muslims are overrunning Europe. We have ordered it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Part of what makes America great is that we are part of a great civilization, of which Velázquez is one of the towering figures. If we cannot honor and remember those who contributed to that civilization before America was born, it is hard to see what will stop Western civilization from eventually descending into barbarism.”</p>
<p>I don’t buy this argument anymore that America is part of a great civilization. America is new. We have discarded and destroyed most of western civilization. Look at our current culture, what does it have to do with the culture found in Western Europe in 1500? Look at our form of Government what does it have to do with the Old Order of things? America is the leader in rejecting the Western Civilization of a Velázquez.</p>
<p>Would anyone here in America even fund such an artist as Velázquez today? It is time to realize that Our Country is not a defender of Western Civilization, but a destroyer. This is why the Muslims are overrunning Europe. We have ordered it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Piatak</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/06/06/the-theology-of-painting/comment-page-1/#comment-166369</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Piatak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My post number three shows the dangers of relying on memory alone.  Becoming a member of the Order of Santiago was indeed important to Velazquez, but he did not become a member until three years after he painted Las Meninas, so the cross was painted onto his tunic after he completed the painting.  Legend has it that was painted on by Philip IV, in tribute to his long-serving court painter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My post number three shows the dangers of relying on memory alone.  Becoming a member of the Order of Santiago was indeed important to Velazquez, but he did not become a member until three years after he painted Las Meninas, so the cross was painted onto his tunic after he completed the painting.  Legend has it that was painted on by Philip IV, in tribute to his long-serving court painter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the 50th anniversary of Star Trek or Star Wars, you can bet that NR will have a non-stop, week-long feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 50th anniversary of Star Trek or Star Wars, you can bet that NR will have a non-stop, week-long feature.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Cort Kirkwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Cort Kirkwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom:

It&#039;s NRO, natch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:</p>
<p>It's NRO, natch.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Google is just engaging in political correctness by ignoring dates of importance in American history and promoting &#039;hispanic&#039; heritage? If so, Velazquez is being misused by fools who dont understand him as anything more than &#039;hispanic&#039; and dont care to. 

If all that is true, then the irony is in the surname of the complainer. The unintended, unforseeable good result is this column.

Of course they could just be trying to celebrate a great artist who deserves recognition, and if so, both my reaction and that of Lopez says a lot about how culture has been so distorted by political correctness that some reactionaries, having for so long suffered under the evil, now see political correctness and cultural subversion even when it&#039;s not there at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Google is just engaging in political correctness by ignoring dates of importance in American history and promoting 'hispanic' heritage? If so, Velazquez is being misused by fools who dont understand him as anything more than 'hispanic' and dont care to. </p>
<p>If all that is true, then the irony is in the surname of the complainer. The unintended, unforseeable good result is this column.</p>
<p>Of course they could just be trying to celebrate a great artist who deserves recognition, and if so, both my reaction and that of Lopez says a lot about how culture has been so distorted by political correctness that some reactionaries, having for so long suffered under the evil, now see political correctness and cultural subversion even when it's not there at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ezzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Ezzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disinterest in the arts and humanities is one of the salient phenomena amongst contemporary conservative and/or Christian people. Take just literature for example. We, for the most part, either read the same popular novels everyone else reads, or no fiction at all. I am often surprised when I search for out-of-print books on the internet and I come across names (from the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s) that would be unthinkable now : &quot;Catholic Book Club&quot;; &quot;Catholic Family Reading Club&quot;; and other similar names.
It&#039;s hard to believe such things existed. You could certainly blame television (for the demise). But another factor is that modernism in the arts is so repugnant to people (as it should be, with a few exceptions), that they throw out the baby (Velazquez) too, and simply reject the arts as a whole. A few Catholic publications are trying to reverse the trend, and it is a mission that needs a lot of support. Thanks to Tom Piatak for this essay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disinterest in the arts and humanities is one of the salient phenomena amongst contemporary conservative and/or Christian people. Take just literature for example. We, for the most part, either read the same popular novels everyone else reads, or no fiction at all. I am often surprised when I search for out-of-print books on the internet and I come across names (from the 50's and 60's) that would be unthinkable now : "Catholic Book Club"; "Catholic Family Reading Club"; and other similar names.<br />
It's hard to believe such things existed. You could certainly blame television (for the demise). But another factor is that modernism in the arts is so repugnant to people (as it should be, with a few exceptions), that they throw out the baby (Velazquez) too, and simply reject the arts as a whole. A few Catholic publications are trying to reverse the trend, and it is a mission that needs a lot of support. Thanks to Tom Piatak for this essay.</p>
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		<title>By: Little John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,
  I am amused by the little girl in this painting getting ready ( perhaps ?) to sit on the large but tired dog. I wish those folks at NRO had some pets they could enjoy other than assassinations and war.
I really appreciate you keeping us abreast of their never ending struggle of trying to surge ahead with their head in the sand. Maybe someone should donate an Ostrich as a mascot for their cause.  Or better yet, a chameleon ? No wonder they hate artists who know all about changing colors given a particular light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
  I am amused by the little girl in this painting getting ready ( perhaps ?) to sit on the large but tired dog. I wish those folks at NRO had some pets they could enjoy other than assassinations and war.<br />
I really appreciate you keeping us abreast of their never ending struggle of trying to surge ahead with their head in the sand. Maybe someone should donate an Ostrich as a mascot for their cause.  Or better yet, a chameleon ? No wonder they hate artists who know all about changing colors given a particular light.</p>
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