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		<title>By: Marko K.</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/05/15/serbian-election-socialists-as-the-unexpected-kingmakers/comment-page-2/#comment-163911</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Trifkovic, do you have any information about the pre-election coalition agreement between SPS, PUPS, and JS? Would it be possible for JS, led by Dragan Markovic, to leave this coalition with their 3 seats, and join together with DS? With this in mind, what is your prognosis about the likelihood of a national government involving SRS, DSS, and SPS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Trifkovic, do you have any information about the pre-election coalition agreement between SPS, PUPS, and JS? Would it be possible for JS, led by Dragan Markovic, to leave this coalition with their 3 seats, and join together with DS? With this in mind, what is your prognosis about the likelihood of a national government involving SRS, DSS, and SPS?</p>
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		<title>By: Iliya Pavlovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iliya Pavlovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neo-UDBA = UDBA jugend, anybody that ever held a membership in the Communist party at any level.</description>
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		<title>By: Iliya Pavlovich</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/05/15/serbian-election-socialists-as-the-unexpected-kingmakers/comment-page-2/#comment-161914</link>
		<dc:creator>Iliya Pavlovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dearest Boba,

I have been following your articles, interviews and decidedly clever replies to most of what concerns the current affairs in Serbia – but within this topic, you may have been blindsided or just plain wrong. 

You seem to have suggested that one of the participants should visit Kosovo and continue his fight over there. I am scheduled to go to Serbia this Summer again – and I’ll be happy to give you my first hand report on KiM.

This is my objection. Within the functioning of the present government structure in Belgrade there seems to be a good number of neo-UDBA members of post-communism – just as I illustrated in the case of Dimitry Rupel. This excludes a whole new group of “Rent-A-Serbian” which is painfully obvious reading the Politika commentaries.

If Serbian officials had sufficient knowledge of the English language they can only learn and benefit from the articles of Dr. Trifkovic, your own contribution, Messrs. Averko and Baily, without any of them having to go to Kosovo and without any of them having abandoned their Serbian heritage. I continue to enjoy gibanica, kolo and many other things Serbian, but I don’t have to live in a hornets’ nest to be able to make the deaf ones regain their hearing – my presence won’t help. In my own case (and I suspect some others too) it is exactly the exposure to free thinking and the free idea exchange that some of the clever ideas have come to fruition. Don’t forget that Benjamin Franklin walked into the British Parliament as a British subject from the colonies, but walked out as an American patriot and revolutionary. Sometimes being away from home give you a far clearer perspective….</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Boba,</p>
<p>I have been following your articles, interviews and decidedly clever replies to most of what concerns the current affairs in Serbia – but within this topic, you may have been blindsided or just plain wrong. </p>
<p>You seem to have suggested that one of the participants should visit Kosovo and continue his fight over there. I am scheduled to go to Serbia this Summer again – and I’ll be happy to give you my first hand report on KiM.</p>
<p>This is my objection. Within the functioning of the present government structure in Belgrade there seems to be a good number of neo-UDBA members of post-communism – just as I illustrated in the case of Dimitry Rupel. This excludes a whole new group of “Rent-A-Serbian” which is painfully obvious reading the Politika commentaries.</p>
<p>If Serbian officials had sufficient knowledge of the English language they can only learn and benefit from the articles of Dr. Trifkovic, your own contribution, Messrs. Averko and Baily, without any of them having to go to Kosovo and without any of them having abandoned their Serbian heritage. I continue to enjoy gibanica, kolo and many other things Serbian, but I don’t have to live in a hornets’ nest to be able to make the deaf ones regain their hearing – my presence won’t help. In my own case (and I suspect some others too) it is exactly the exposure to free thinking and the free idea exchange that some of the clever ideas have come to fruition. Don’t forget that Benjamin Franklin walked into the British Parliament as a British subject from the colonies, but walked out as an American patriot and revolutionary. Sometimes being away from home give you a far clearer perspective….</p>
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		<title>By: Iliya Pavlovich</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/05/15/serbian-election-socialists-as-the-unexpected-kingmakers/comment-page-2/#comment-159376</link>
		<dc:creator>Iliya Pavlovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another Rupel joke: http://www.politika.co.yu/rubrike/redakcijski-komentari/Kostur-u-ormanu.sr.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another Rupel joke: <a href="http://www.politika.co.yu/rubrike/redakcijski-komentari/Kostur-u-ormanu.sr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politika.co.yu/rubrike/redakcijski-komentari/Kostur-u-ormanu.sr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Iliya Pavlovich</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/05/15/serbian-election-socialists-as-the-unexpected-kingmakers/comment-page-2/#comment-158891</link>
		<dc:creator>Iliya Pavlovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a good few years I have been claiming that islam is not a bona-fide religion (faith) as it wishes to pass itself the world over. It is only a CULT. The essential elements of faith are lacking, Temple, prayer, a book with an apparent moral codex, are not enough for Islam to consider itself a faith. It advocates murder (overtly) and it promotes hatred and discrimination (even amongst their own ilk). However this is no longer a topic I wish to discuss. 

I was equally crucified by claiming that communism is alive and well in Serbia as much as in many countries of the former Yugoslavia. It is a nasty coincidence that during the EU rotating presidency it was a Slovene Foreign Secretery Dimitry Rupel was an admitted Communist who was expelled from the Communist Party and fought tooth and nail to be re-admitted. Today his Communist training is evidences in his encouraging the 3%  of the Kosovo population go traspass on 15% of Serbian lands. It is this exact act that proves what a good communist Rupel was brought out to be. Communism&#039;s main target was the reducing &quot;Serbian hegemony&quot; (or influence/strength, etc.)

Therefore partitioning Serbia further and further indeed goes well in keeping with the Communist School of Thought. The Communists in Serbia are following the same line of thinking - partition Kosovo, Vojvodina, Sandzak, etc. Even the DS which deems itself largely non-communist has made and supported anti-Serbian moves. Every so often I find a befitting sentence by Njegos or Shakespeare. Every Serbian should now ask: Why do you dress me in borrowed robes?

So much for all those delusional views that democracy in Serbia is fully functional. Those that can read Serbian may feast their eyes on Rupel&#039;s deeply submerged communism in the Serbian daily Politika at the following URL: http://www.politika.co.yu/rubrike/redakcijski-komentari/Krivolov.sr.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a good few years I have been claiming that islam is not a bona-fide religion (faith) as it wishes to pass itself the world over. It is only a CULT. The essential elements of faith are lacking, Temple, prayer, a book with an apparent moral codex, are not enough for Islam to consider itself a faith. It advocates murder (overtly) and it promotes hatred and discrimination (even amongst their own ilk). However this is no longer a topic I wish to discuss. </p>
<p>I was equally crucified by claiming that communism is alive and well in Serbia as much as in many countries of the former Yugoslavia. It is a nasty coincidence that during the EU rotating presidency it was a Slovene Foreign Secretery Dimitry Rupel was an admitted Communist who was expelled from the Communist Party and fought tooth and nail to be re-admitted. Today his Communist training is evidences in his encouraging the 3%  of the Kosovo population go traspass on 15% of Serbian lands. It is this exact act that proves what a good communist Rupel was brought out to be. Communism's main target was the reducing "Serbian hegemony" (or influence/strength, etc.)</p>
<p>Therefore partitioning Serbia further and further indeed goes well in keeping with the Communist School of Thought. The Communists in Serbia are following the same line of thinking - partition Kosovo, Vojvodina, Sandzak, etc. Even the DS which deems itself largely non-communist has made and supported anti-Serbian moves. Every so often I find a befitting sentence by Njegos or Shakespeare. Every Serbian should now ask: Why do you dress me in borrowed robes?</p>
<p>So much for all those delusional views that democracy in Serbia is fully functional. Those that can read Serbian may feast their eyes on Rupel's deeply submerged communism in the Serbian daily Politika at the following URL: <a href="http://www.politika.co.yu/rubrike/redakcijski-komentari/Krivolov.sr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politika.co.yu/rubrike/redakcijski-komentari/Krivolov.sr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Iliya Pavlovich</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/05/15/serbian-election-socialists-as-the-unexpected-kingmakers/comment-page-2/#comment-157162</link>
		<dc:creator>Iliya Pavlovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I shouldn&#039;t live in Serbia, thank you very much. It pains me to see things in Serbia that I see every so many years that I come to visit. When I do visit I don&#039;t stay in my birthtown only - I travel from Kosovo to Subotica without fail, often including Montenegro, spent many years there as a tour guide in my youth, madly in love with every word Njegos ever wrote - all that, I have here with me so I don&#039;t need the dog chasing his tail style of political intrigue that I read about in the Serbian press (Blic, Politika, Kurir, RTS, etc.). A few freshly painted buildings in Knez Mihajlova street do not lift the poverty of Leskovac, Berane and Southernmost regions. The loud pro-Hungarian rants in Indjija, Novi Sad and Subotica are most annoying. I don&#039;t think of that as democracy - Serbians who were and are in the majority behave as if they were the only minority. On account of some warped pluralism imported from God knows what God awful source, the country is thumbing its nose at itself. The plumbing at half of my friends&#039; homes is terrible. Thank you for inviting me, but I&#039;ll stay exactly where I am - I enjoy the West, but I can not be indifferent when I see the self-destruction that Serbia is sometimes headed for (other times less visibly, yet at present quite inevitably). The entire Kosovo farce has been used by every &quot;politician&quot; only to further his own goals. As if signing up the &quot;Russian solution&quot; takes you away from &quot;Europe&quot; - do you not know that you ARE in Europe no matter who says what to whom. Serbian form of &quot;pluralism&quot; is an absolute abortion and it (seems to me) must have been designed in the West to reduce the Serbian influence in Serbian government - since now (but never before in my lifetime) we have the Roma, the Gypsies, even the Egyptians, Hungarians. Tots, Sandzak Muslims, etc. etc. Get my drift? Everybody and their mother live in Serbia but I hear of very few Serbians having any rights or self-determination. If I were to spend another week there I&#039;d end up in Padnska Skela (jail). That&#039;s my stand towards the present day politickingin Serbia. Radoje Domanovic was a visionary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I shouldn't live in Serbia, thank you very much. It pains me to see things in Serbia that I see every so many years that I come to visit. When I do visit I don't stay in my birthtown only - I travel from Kosovo to Subotica without fail, often including Montenegro, spent many years there as a tour guide in my youth, madly in love with every word Njegos ever wrote - all that, I have here with me so I don't need the dog chasing his tail style of political intrigue that I read about in the Serbian press (Blic, Politika, Kurir, RTS, etc.). A few freshly painted buildings in Knez Mihajlova street do not lift the poverty of Leskovac, Berane and Southernmost regions. The loud pro-Hungarian rants in Indjija, Novi Sad and Subotica are most annoying. I don't think of that as democracy - Serbians who were and are in the majority behave as if they were the only minority. On account of some warped pluralism imported from God knows what God awful source, the country is thumbing its nose at itself. The plumbing at half of my friends' homes is terrible. Thank you for inviting me, but I'll stay exactly where I am - I enjoy the West, but I can not be indifferent when I see the self-destruction that Serbia is sometimes headed for (other times less visibly, yet at present quite inevitably). The entire Kosovo farce has been used by every "politician" only to further his own goals. As if signing up the "Russian solution" takes you away from "Europe" - do you not know that you ARE in Europe no matter who says what to whom. Serbian form of "pluralism" is an absolute abortion and it (seems to me) must have been designed in the West to reduce the Serbian influence in Serbian government - since now (but never before in my lifetime) we have the Roma, the Gypsies, even the Egyptians, Hungarians. Tots, Sandzak Muslims, etc. etc. Get my drift? Everybody and their mother live in Serbia but I hear of very few Serbians having any rights or self-determination. If I were to spend another week there I'd end up in Padnska Skela (jail). That's my stand towards the present day politickingin Serbia. Radoje Domanovic was a visionary.</p>
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		<title>By: CPR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. T. nice new picture... you went from looking like my little buddy Andy (one of the smarter or smartest kids in the class) to suddenly like Peter Lawford in The Thin Man.

Remember also Patrick McGoohan in Secret Agent Man? They give him newer number and take away his name.

Sexy. Wow you look younger than 54&#039;ish. Stay so...get up each day and admit that in reality you&#039;re not getting older you&#039;re getting younger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. T. nice new picture... you went from looking like my little buddy Andy (one of the smarter or smartest kids in the class) to suddenly like Peter Lawford in The Thin Man.</p>
<p>Remember also Patrick McGoohan in Secret Agent Man? They give him newer number and take away his name.</p>
<p>Sexy. Wow you look younger than 54'ish. Stay so...get up each day and admit that in reality you're not getting older you're getting younger.</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bailey,

UDBA!  Undemocratic!!  Bloodshed to come!!!

Pleeeeeease contain yourself, sir.  

As I have mentioned to you earlier: see the calamity writ large in the west and then place Serbia within its proper context and not some inflated position.  

For if I were to judge the three presidential candidates being foisted upon us as &quot;choices&quot; and how that came to be I might also smell something of a security apparatus at work, something distinctly undemocratic, and something that will definately lead to bloodshed (at least abroad, when the next wars come to pass).  Now, if you really believe these three &quot;public servents&quot; to be cast from the same mold as Washington and Jefferson, well, then, I&#039;m not sure that there is much I could explain to you.  And if you also choose to ignore Dr. Kostunica&#039;s record of integrity with respect to constitutionally derived authority, not to mention his respect for western democratic traditions (he translated key early American documents into Serbian for goodness sake!), well, then, what can I really say when you condemn the man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bailey,</p>
<p>UDBA!  Undemocratic!!  Bloodshed to come!!!</p>
<p>Pleeeeeease contain yourself, sir.  </p>
<p>As I have mentioned to you earlier: see the calamity writ large in the west and then place Serbia within its proper context and not some inflated position.  </p>
<p>For if I were to judge the three presidential candidates being foisted upon us as "choices" and how that came to be I might also smell something of a security apparatus at work, something distinctly undemocratic, and something that will definately lead to bloodshed (at least abroad, when the next wars come to pass).  Now, if you really believe these three "public servents" to be cast from the same mold as Washington and Jefferson, well, then, I'm not sure that there is much I could explain to you.  And if you also choose to ignore Dr. Kostunica's record of integrity with respect to constitutionally derived authority, not to mention his respect for western democratic traditions (he translated key early American documents into Serbian for goodness sake!), well, then, what can I really say when you condemn the man?</p>
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		<title>By: Goran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Iliya Pavlovich:

You should live in Serbia, your homeland. Being too far from your own land for too long is dangerous. It is not good for the mind of a man. Serbia is not perfect, but I cannot see your goodself seeing it properly. To say that it smells like Weimar Republic...You live in the UK, I guess? &quot;Hundred times repeated lie becomes truth&quot;, that is what I think about the British press, for instance. But, I do not believe in that &quot;proverb&quot; being true.  For had that been true, Goebbels would not have ended in the way he did.

Jack Bailey and Mike Averko are two completely different people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Iliya Pavlovich:</p>
<p>You should live in Serbia, your homeland. Being too far from your own land for too long is dangerous. It is not good for the mind of a man. Serbia is not perfect, but I cannot see your goodself seeing it properly. To say that it smells like Weimar Republic...You live in the UK, I guess? "Hundred times repeated lie becomes truth", that is what I think about the British press, for instance. But, I do not believe in that "proverb" being true.  For had that been true, Goebbels would not have ended in the way he did.</p>
<p>Jack Bailey and Mike Averko are two completely different people.</p>
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		<title>By: Iliya Pavlovich</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/05/15/serbian-election-socialists-as-the-unexpected-kingmakers/comment-page-2/#comment-152457</link>
		<dc:creator>Iliya Pavlovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lavis = lavish, pardon me, while you can always count on my typos, you can&#039;t count on me to be too forgiving to my birthcountry going through a nastry &quot;transition&quot; eternaly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lavis = lavish, pardon me, while you can always count on my typos, you can't count on me to be too forgiving to my birthcountry going through a nastry "transition" eternaly.</p>
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