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		<title>By: Ron Q</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/18/our-open-borders-secret/comment-page-2/#comment-124250</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re all a bunch of unpatriotic conservatives!  How can we swill beer and stuff our faces with popcorn while the Republican Party needs our help?  What would Rush say?  Get with it you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're all a bunch of unpatriotic conservatives!  How can we swill beer and stuff our faces with popcorn while the Republican Party needs our help?  What would Rush say?  Get with it you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: W. James</title>
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		<dc:creator>W. James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Dr. Fleming, our &quot;voice crying in the wilderness.&quot;  To effect change, we will have to go outside the political process.  The State has two pillars:  the military and the banking system.  While the military is not my target, a military boycott would create an intolerable situation for the State.  Men could simply not enlist or re-enlist.  If a draft were reinstated, we could be conscientious objectors and not bear arms.  A boycott of the banking system would create another intolerable situation for the State.  We could simply withdraw our money en masse --a run on the banks-- and thereby precipitate economic paralysis.  These actions are legal and moral, and would provide the necessary leverage to persuade the State to meet our demands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Dr. Fleming, our "voice crying in the wilderness."  To effect change, we will have to go outside the political process.  The State has two pillars:  the military and the banking system.  While the military is not my target, a military boycott would create an intolerable situation for the State.  Men could simply not enlist or re-enlist.  If a draft were reinstated, we could be conscientious objectors and not bear arms.  A boycott of the banking system would create another intolerable situation for the State.  We could simply withdraw our money en masse --a run on the banks-- and thereby precipitate economic paralysis.  These actions are legal and moral, and would provide the necessary leverage to persuade the State to meet our demands.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ezzo</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/18/our-open-borders-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-117793</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Ezzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, Nicholas, I&#039;m on the eternal search for some
definitive cultural structure for myself.
The Catholic Church is (as it is for you and others)
my cherished home away from (our ultimate) home. 
The ultimate irony of America is how the very same
freedom of choice that leads to the niche-style
interests that weaken communal
ties, simultaneously provides some of the antidote -- home schooling is one example.
This choice is not available in countries where 
stronger group ties prevail. In order to be a productive community member one must often suppress choices and freedoms.
How much are we willing to give up? What elements of community are worth sacrficing for, and which ones aren&#039;t? Is it even possible to have strong communal ties simultaneous with the myriad individual choices that new technology facilitates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, Nicholas, I'm on the eternal search for some<br />
definitive cultural structure for myself.<br />
The Catholic Church is (as it is for you and others)<br />
my cherished home away from (our ultimate) home.<br />
The ultimate irony of America is how the very same<br />
freedom of choice that leads to the niche-style<br />
interests that weaken communal<br />
ties, simultaneously provides some of the antidote -- home schooling is one example.<br />
This choice is not available in countries where<br />
stronger group ties prevail. In order to be a productive community member one must often suppress choices and freedoms.<br />
How much are we willing to give up? What elements of community are worth sacrficing for, and which ones aren't? Is it even possible to have strong communal ties simultaneous with the myriad individual choices that new technology facilitates?</p>
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		<title>By: NGPM</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/18/our-open-borders-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-115527</link>
		<dc:creator>NGPM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And save some luggage space for raiding the used bookstores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And save some luggage space for raiding the used bookstores.</p>
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		<title>By: NGPM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NGPM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand by my opinion that Americans abroad are in general to be avoided, but if Mr. Wilson or any other remaining true Occidental wishes to see Europe, there&#039;s a modest Parisian flat to accomodate them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand by my opinion that Americans abroad are in general to be avoided, but if Mr. Wilson or any other remaining true Occidental wishes to see Europe, there's a modest Parisian flat to accomodate them...</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brutus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My dear departed father, who won a bronze star with a combat V on Okinawa, hated FDR. One of his favorite witticisms about Roosevelt, was “I have seen waahr, and I have seen Eleanor…I prefer waahr.” Government duplicity never ends. I miss the Old Marine&quot;

It was said by people who knew FDR intimately that, since he was crippled himself, he hated healthy and robust men. It is not hard to imagine men who are confined to wheelchairs secretly harbor a resentment that can approach hatred towards men who can walk and enjoy life AND LOVE AND SEX. Moreover,  I also understand that his wife liked young  &quot;studs.&quot; This, also, doubtlessly  could have fueled his zest to see young men maimed and killed. 

We generally, out of decency, do not mention this probable disposition, but it may occasionally bear contemplation and honest consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"My dear departed father, who won a bronze star with a combat V on Okinawa, hated FDR. One of his favorite witticisms about Roosevelt, was “I have seen waahr, and I have seen Eleanor…I prefer waahr.” Government duplicity never ends. I miss the Old Marine"</p>
<p>It was said by people who knew FDR intimately that, since he was crippled himself, he hated healthy and robust men. It is not hard to imagine men who are confined to wheelchairs secretly harbor a resentment that can approach hatred towards men who can walk and enjoy life AND LOVE AND SEX. Moreover,  I also understand that his wife liked young  "studs." This, also, doubtlessly  could have fueled his zest to see young men maimed and killed. </p>
<p>We generally, out of decency, do not mention this probable disposition, but it may occasionally bear contemplation and honest consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: Son Of A Devil Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Son Of A Devil Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear departed father, who won a bronze star with a combat V on Okinawa, hated FDR.  One of his favorite witticisms about Roosevelt, was &quot;I have seen waahr, and I have seen Eleanor...I prefer waahr.&quot; Government duplicity never ends.  I miss the Old Marine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear departed father, who won a bronze star with a combat V on Okinawa, hated FDR.  One of his favorite witticisms about Roosevelt, was "I have seen waahr, and I have seen Eleanor...I prefer waahr." Government duplicity never ends.  I miss the Old Marine</p>
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		<title>By: robert reavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert reavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Wilson,
 You speak well of the permanet things. Reminded me of this poem by Thomas Hardy. Happy Easter to you and yours.

In Time of &#039;The Breaking Of Nations&#039; 

Only a man harrowing clods
 In a slow silent walk
With an old horse that stumbles and nods
 Half asleep as they stalk.

Only thin smoke without flame
 From the heaps of couch-grass;
Yet this will go onward the same
 Though Dynasties pass.

Yonder a maid and her wight
 Come whispering by:
War&#039;s annals will cloud into night
 Ere their story die.

	-- Thomas Hardy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Wilson,<br />
 You speak well of the permanet things. Reminded me of this poem by Thomas Hardy. Happy Easter to you and yours.</p>
<p>In Time of 'The Breaking Of Nations' </p>
<p>Only a man harrowing clods<br />
 In a slow silent walk<br />
With an old horse that stumbles and nods<br />
 Half asleep as they stalk.</p>
<p>Only thin smoke without flame<br />
 From the heaps of couch-grass;<br />
Yet this will go onward the same<br />
 Though Dynasties pass.</p>
<p>Yonder a maid and her wight<br />
 Come whispering by:<br />
War's annals will cloud into night<br />
 Ere their story die.</p>
<p>	-- Thomas Hardy</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I&#039;ve been contemplating between bouts of working so much I have little time for much of anything else: 

1. Plant some fruit trees on a piece of land inherited from my grandfather so they&#039;ll be bearing fruit or about to start doing so if and when I start living there.

2. Drill a well and install an old-fashioned hand pump.
 
3. Download and store a lot of old out of copyright books (with few exceptions, the only ones worth having nowadays are all old and out of copyright) from Google and elsewhere, such as the 1911 Brittanica, great works of literature, old Greek and Latin textbooks and all the Greek, Roman, Byzantine, English and Southern literature and histories I can find, and in case the electricity goes out for an extended time:

4. Make sure I have dry, secure storage for the expensive books I have bought over the years, then cull the ones without enduring value. 

5. Find a solar source for charging batteries or otherwise powering equipment, so I can still use Dr Fleming&#039;s &#039;History and Literature of the Ancient World&#039;, and some other audio resources, if and when when the &#039;lectric goes out.

6. Fix a good garden spot on that land.

7. Find some means to build a house there that will withstand storms and not be too susceptible to fire.

8. Get back to fishing and hunting at least enough that I can catch fish and shoot straight again. 

9. Get all the tools and implements I&#039;ll need for whatever I might need to do, and warm durable clothes in case Penney&#039;s or the evil Wally World cant supply our needs or we cant get there.

There are other things I&#039;ve been considering, but there&#039;s no need to blather on. This isn&#039;t crackpot survivalism, it&#039;s just forethought; however, we may all do well to learn a bit about self-reliance skills from some survivalist publications. 

I&#039;m an Arkansawyer and a Southron born and bred. Where else would I go to make my stand? When it&#039;s all said and done, I&#039;ll be preaching the gospel of Dixie till I die, even if I&#039;m the last one left to do so and no one listens or has enough sense to understand. 

I&#039;ll tell my kids, if I can ever afford to have any, the story my other granddad used to tell me on the front porch, the one his maternal grandfather told him on the porch when he was a child, about how soldiers used to wrap salted meat up in cloth and tie it to their leg, and how, when he was at Chickamauga, a yankee bullet tore the meat and his entire pant leg off, and never touched his leg.

I sure will miss my German beer, though, and the occasional cheap French wine that no self-respecting Frenchman would ever drink, and my cheap imported olive oil that no self-respecting Greek or Italian would ever use for anything.

Even so, a nice trip to Europe before the hard times come would be nice, and I&#039;d spend it in the Cathedrals and libraries and museums and at the monuments and on the battlefields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's what I've been contemplating between bouts of working so much I have little time for much of anything else: </p>
<p>1. Plant some fruit trees on a piece of land inherited from my grandfather so they'll be bearing fruit or about to start doing so if and when I start living there.</p>
<p>2. Drill a well and install an old-fashioned hand pump.</p>
<p>3. Download and store a lot of old out of copyright books (with few exceptions, the only ones worth having nowadays are all old and out of copyright) from Google and elsewhere, such as the 1911 Brittanica, great works of literature, old Greek and Latin textbooks and all the Greek, Roman, Byzantine, English and Southern literature and histories I can find, and in case the electricity goes out for an extended time:</p>
<p>4. Make sure I have dry, secure storage for the expensive books I have bought over the years, then cull the ones without enduring value. </p>
<p>5. Find a solar source for charging batteries or otherwise powering equipment, so I can still use Dr Fleming's 'History and Literature of the Ancient World', and some other audio resources, if and when when the 'lectric goes out.</p>
<p>6. Fix a good garden spot on that land.</p>
<p>7. Find some means to build a house there that will withstand storms and not be too susceptible to fire.</p>
<p>8. Get back to fishing and hunting at least enough that I can catch fish and shoot straight again. </p>
<p>9. Get all the tools and implements I'll need for whatever I might need to do, and warm durable clothes in case Penney's or the evil Wally World cant supply our needs or we cant get there.</p>
<p>There are other things I've been considering, but there's no need to blather on. This isn't crackpot survivalism, it's just forethought; however, we may all do well to learn a bit about self-reliance skills from some survivalist publications. </p>
<p>I'm an Arkansawyer and a Southron born and bred. Where else would I go to make my stand? When it's all said and done, I'll be preaching the gospel of Dixie till I die, even if I'm the last one left to do so and no one listens or has enough sense to understand. </p>
<p>I'll tell my kids, if I can ever afford to have any, the story my other granddad used to tell me on the front porch, the one his maternal grandfather told him on the porch when he was a child, about how soldiers used to wrap salted meat up in cloth and tie it to their leg, and how, when he was at Chickamauga, a yankee bullet tore the meat and his entire pant leg off, and never touched his leg.</p>
<p>I sure will miss my German beer, though, and the occasional cheap French wine that no self-respecting Frenchman would ever drink, and my cheap imported olive oil that no self-respecting Greek or Italian would ever use for anything.</p>
<p>Even so, a nice trip to Europe before the hard times come would be nice, and I'd spend it in the Cathedrals and libraries and museums and at the monuments and on the battlefields.</p>
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		<title>By: T. French</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. French</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;A viable strategy is to center one’s adult life around the Catholic Church and the nearest decent pub. I have made it a point that convenient access to both of these things is an absolute prerequisite to any movement I make in the future.&quot;

This is good advice.  I would also advocate forming a small group of trusted friends and learning how to brew beer and or make wine.  Much good fellowship to be had and you will gain practical knowledge of one or two great traditions of the west. 

One of the problems that foster the unreality and escapism of our current deracinated lives is being unable to obtain the most basic needs of life for ourselves.  Being able to cook, garden, raise some form of livestock, drink home brew and enjoy good company is good salve for the terrifing dependancy we have been lulled into.  If you can confront and succeed in solving some of the basic problems of life independently or with a band of fellows, the higher problems of culture might look a bit less overawing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'A viable strategy is to center one’s adult life around the Catholic Church and the nearest decent pub. I have made it a point that convenient access to both of these things is an absolute prerequisite to any movement I make in the future."</p>
<p>This is good advice.  I would also advocate forming a small group of trusted friends and learning how to brew beer and or make wine.  Much good fellowship to be had and you will gain practical knowledge of one or two great traditions of the west. </p>
<p>One of the problems that foster the unreality and escapism of our current deracinated lives is being unable to obtain the most basic needs of life for ourselves.  Being able to cook, garden, raise some form of livestock, drink home brew and enjoy good company is good salve for the terrifing dependancy we have been lulled into.  If you can confront and succeed in solving some of the basic problems of life independently or with a band of fellows, the higher problems of culture might look a bit less overawing.</p>
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