Comments on: Government Falls in Belgrade http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/ Your home for traditional conservatism. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:38:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: News | Serbian Unity Congress » The E.U.’s Double Game in the Balkans, The Chronicles Magazine (Srdja Trifkovic) http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-3/#comment-138311 News | Serbian Unity Congress » The E.U.’s Double Game in the Balkans, The Chronicles Magazine (Srdja Trifkovic) Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:22:33 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-138311 [...] it already is—but also the majority partner in a new ruling coalition after the general election on May 11. In practice, the EU officials in Brussels and in Kosovo are acting as if this is the [...] [...] it already is—but also the majority partner in a new ruling coalition after the general election on May 11. In practice, the EU officials in Brussels and in Kosovo are acting as if this is the [...]

]]> By: Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture | Your Home for Traditional Conservatism » The E.U.’s Double Game in the Balkans http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-3/#comment-136622 Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture | Your Home for Traditional Conservatism » The E.U.’s Double Game in the Balkans Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:34:56 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-136622 [...] it already is—but also the majority partner in a new ruling coalition after the general election on May 11. In practice, the EU officials in Brussels and in Kosovo are acting as if this is the [...] [...] it already is—but also the majority partner in a new ruling coalition after the general election on May 11. In practice, the EU officials in Brussels and in Kosovo are acting as if this is the [...]

]]> By: Peter RV http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-3/#comment-114947 Peter RV Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:16:07 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-114947 "Jeremic says that he will ask the UN GA in September to request the Advisory Opinion on the legality of unilateral secession of Kosovo from the ICJ . But, why nor request that from the UN Security Council right now? Also, why not sue? " I'll tell you their answer : We are waiting to get inside Europe to sue "from inside". I have some more questions for the Serbian spineless government, here are some of them. 1. What happened to the lawsuit presented to the International Court for the damage inflicted to Serbia by NATOs agression, initiated by Slobodan Milosevic? 2. Republika Srpska has performed an investigation over what exactly happened in Srebrenica ( finding only few hundred Muslim victims and most of them killed in combat). Serbian government wanted to make an investigation of its own, but gave up. Why? 3. Where did the five million dollar bounty for Milosevic's head finally end up? 4. Why is it that after five years of a judicial processes against aleged Djindjic's assassins, the public still have no idea of who killed him and why? 5. Why were't the autors of the illegal State of Emergency introduced after Djindjic's assassination, prosecuted? 6. Was Kostunica forced by the CIA to accept a number of ministers to its liking? Maybe Srdja Trifkovic has some answers to these enigmas of the Serbian european Odissea. "Jeremic says that he will ask the UN GA in September to request the Advisory Opinion on the legality of unilateral secession of Kosovo from the ICJ . But, why nor request that from the UN Security Council right now? Also, why not sue?
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I'll tell you their answer : We are waiting to get inside Europe to sue "from inside".
I have some more questions for the Serbian spineless government, here are some of them.
1. What happened to the lawsuit presented to the International Court for the damage inflicted to Serbia by NATOs agression, initiated by Slobodan Milosevic?
2. Republika Srpska has performed an investigation over what exactly happened in Srebrenica ( finding only few hundred Muslim victims and most of them killed in combat). Serbian government wanted to make an investigation of its own, but gave up. Why?
3. Where did the five million dollar bounty for Milosevic's head finally end up?
4. Why is it that after five years of a judicial processes against aleged Djindjic's assassins, the public still have no idea of who killed him and why?
5. Why were't the autors of the illegal State of Emergency introduced after Djindjic's assassination, prosecuted?
6. Was Kostunica forced by the CIA to accept a number of ministers to its liking?

Maybe Srdja Trifkovic has some answers to these enigmas of the Serbian european Odissea.

]]> By: Jovan D. http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-3/#comment-114851 Jovan D. Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:53:46 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-114851 "... Tadic, Jeremic and Co are ... an international scum the Serbs shall have to eliminate from their midst, perhaps even physically ..." The sooner the better. ------------- Reading today's (23 March 2008) press statements by Dr. Koštunica (http://www.dss.org.yu/newsitem.php?id=5544# ) and a SRS representative (http://www.srs.org.yu/index.php?a=92 ), I get the impression they are still (!) avoiding the issue of forming a coalition. Watch a master diplomat in action (facing a direct question :-)). From the aforementioned Koštunica's interview [my translation]: "... Q. On the issue of defense of Kosovo, who is closer to you, Tomislav Nikolić or Boris Tadić? A. I have participated in building a national policy and creating a consensus, which we achieved by introducing the Constitution through a referendum, that affirms that Kosovo is a constituent part of Serbia. We have been affirming this policy through parliamentary resolutions and it has been widely accepted. I am convinced that this policy has given a historical result, where I primarily have in mind the fact that a common policy with Russia prevented Security Council adoption of Ahtisaari plan, which would have represented legalization of creation of a NATO state on territory of Serbia. That policy represents a firm commitment for every future Government of ours to fight for right of and justice for Serbia. " "...
Tadic, Jeremic and Co are ... an international scum the Serbs shall have to eliminate from their midst, perhaps even physically
..."

The sooner the better.

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Reading today's (23 March 2008) press statements by Dr. Koštunica (http://www.dss.org.yu/newsitem.php?id=5544# ) and a SRS representative (http://www.srs.org.yu/index.php?a=92 ), I get the impression they are still (!) avoiding the issue of forming a coalition.

Watch a master diplomat in action (facing a direct question :-) ). From the aforementioned Koštunica's interview [my translation]:

"...
Q. On the issue of defense of Kosovo, who is closer to you, Tomislav Nikolić or Boris Tadić?

A. I have participated in building a national policy and creating a consensus, which we achieved by introducing the Constitution through a referendum, that affirms that Kosovo is a constituent part of Serbia. We have been affirming this policy through parliamentary resolutions and it has been widely accepted. I am convinced that this policy has given a historical result, where I primarily have in mind the fact that a common policy with Russia prevented Security Council adoption of Ahtisaari plan, which would have represented legalization of creation of a NATO state on territory of Serbia. That policy represents a firm commitment for every future Government of ours to fight for right of and justice for Serbia.

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]]> By: Goran http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-3/#comment-114671 Goran Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:39:48 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-114671 Peter RV, We are basically on the same line of thought. I very much appreciate your firm and unwaivering stance. I congratulate you on it, that is best expressed in your message No. 97. Any self-respecting leadership would have taken legal action immediately after 17 February. Tadic and Jeremic are blocking it. It's shocking. It is shocking that Serbia has not sued states which illegally recognized the illegal "state" Kosovo. One has to be really out of order not to do it, while there are numerous international lawyers urging Tadic and Jeremic to do it. You may be well right. Money might be the key. I mean, money in their bank accounts. Today, Jeremic says that he will ask the UN GA in September to request the Advisory Opinion on the legality of unilateral secession of Kosovo from the ICJ . But, why nor request that from the UN Security Council right now? Also, why not sue? Their "idea" is to get into the EU (in say 7 years time) and fight for Kosovo. In 7 years time Kosovo might be part of Albania! Their rectoric is nothing but an empty smoke screen shell. God Bless, Peter. Peter RV,

We are basically on the same line of thought. I very much appreciate your firm and unwaivering stance. I congratulate you on it, that is best expressed in your message No. 97.

Any self-respecting leadership would have taken legal action immediately after 17 February. Tadic and Jeremic are blocking it. It's shocking. It is shocking that Serbia has not sued states which illegally recognized the illegal "state" Kosovo. One has to be really out of order not to do it, while there are numerous international lawyers urging Tadic and Jeremic to do it. You may be well right. Money might be the key. I mean, money in their bank accounts.

Today, Jeremic says that he will ask the UN GA in September to request the Advisory Opinion on the legality of unilateral secession of Kosovo from the ICJ . But, why nor request that from the UN Security Council right now? Also, why not sue?

Their "idea" is to get into the EU (in say 7 years time) and fight for Kosovo. In 7 years time Kosovo might be part of Albania! Their rectoric is nothing but an empty smoke screen shell.

God Bless, Peter.

]]> By: Peter RV http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-3/#comment-113855 Peter RV Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:55:39 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-113855 Goran naively misses the truth "Why are they doing it? Answer is easy: to please their “partners” in the EU; but that is betrayal of Serbian people." There is no such a thing as "pleasing" in this game. Tadic, Jeremic and Co are ,as sure as it can be , on the payroll of the CIA, and their bank accounts in Switzerland are growing by the hour. "betrayal of Serbian people" doesn't enter into their vocabulary,Goran, these are the people who have been assigned the task to convert Serbs into european sheep, and therefore obedient to any whim coming from the West. They are an international scum the Serbs shall have to eliminate from their midst, perhaps even physically. Goran naively misses the truth
"Why are they doing it? Answer is easy: to please their “partners” in the EU; but that is betrayal of Serbian people."

There is no such a thing as "pleasing" in this game. Tadic, Jeremic and Co are ,as sure as it can be , on the payroll of the CIA, and their bank accounts in Switzerland are growing by the hour.
"betrayal of Serbian people" doesn't enter into their vocabulary,Goran, these are the people who have been assigned the task to convert Serbs into european sheep, and therefore obedient to any whim coming from the West. They are an international scum the Serbs shall have to eliminate from their midst, perhaps even physically.

]]> By: Goran http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-3/#comment-113746 Goran Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:40:42 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-113746 And, as far as the topic is concerned, there is no doubt in my mind that the Radicals, Kostunica's DSS and SPS will have enough votes to create a new Government. It is even possible that the Radicals and DSS will be able to create the Government on their own. No coallition between Tadic and Kostunica is possible anymore. Kostunica has every reason to mistrust Tadic and his lot because Tadic is the one who is blocking the Serbian action before The International Court of Justice at the moment. I consider those actions of Tadic and Jeremic to be outrageous. Why are they doing it? Answer is easy: to please their "partners" in the EU; but that is betrayal of Serbian people. When someone steals something from you, what do you do? you sue! And that's it! Not in Tadic's world. But his blockade will not last for long. Tadic and his lot will become the largest oppositon party in Serbia on 11 May 2008, no doubt. And, as far as the topic is concerned, there is no doubt in my mind that the Radicals, Kostunica's DSS and SPS will have enough votes to create a new Government. It is even possible that the Radicals and DSS will be able to create the Government on their own.

No coallition between Tadic and Kostunica is possible anymore. Kostunica has every reason to mistrust Tadic and his lot because Tadic is the one who is blocking the Serbian action before The International Court of Justice at the moment. I consider those actions of Tadic and Jeremic to be outrageous. Why are they doing it? Answer is easy: to please their "partners" in the EU; but that is betrayal of Serbian people.

When someone steals something from you, what do you do? you sue! And that's it! Not in Tadic's world. But his blockade will not last for long.

Tadic and his lot will become the largest oppositon party in Serbia on 11 May 2008, no doubt.

]]> By: Goran http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-2/#comment-113735 Goran Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:24:23 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-113735 Srdja, I was thinkinking about the "lodger" on your site. who is "Michael Warning"? I think his name is Mohammad Megalommatis. He writes some articles for the American Chronicle, better to say he is self-posting them. His articles are lunacy of the first category, with no appology. He is repeatedly branding the Serbs "Nazi Hitlerites". So, it might be that he has discovered your site while trying mistakenly to log into his. Here we are...You have the lodger. Unfortunately. Srdja, I was thinkinking about the "lodger" on your site. who is "Michael Warning"? I think his name is Mohammad Megalommatis. He writes some articles for the American Chronicle, better to say he is self-posting them. His articles are lunacy of the first category, with no appology. He is repeatedly branding the Serbs "Nazi Hitlerites". So, it might be that he has discovered your site while trying mistakenly to log into his. Here we are...You have the lodger. Unfortunately.

]]> By: Etienne Gervaise http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-2/#comment-113042 Etienne Gervaise Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:46:56 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-113042 No, Mr Trifkovic, the masters in Foggy Bottom have never taken responsibility for any of their ill-conceived and stupid mistakes. The combined historical weight of their decisions will make up the comedy section in history books of the future. Never before has an empire shown its hand so frequently and so blatantly. Life in the homeland has gotten to be almost intolerable even while the overseas part is still expanding. There should be at least a couple of centuries of good living, America has had less than one. That's the way it must be in the gonad-a-go-go age of instant gratification. No, Mr Trifkovic, the masters in Foggy Bottom have never taken responsibility for any of their ill-conceived and stupid mistakes. The combined historical weight of their decisions will make up the comedy section in history books of the future. Never before has an empire shown its hand so frequently and so blatantly. Life in the homeland has gotten to be almost intolerable even while the overseas part is still expanding. There should be at least a couple of centuries of good living, America has had less than one.

That's the way it must be in the gonad-a-go-go age of instant gratification.

]]> By: Peter RV http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2008/03/10/government-falls-in-belgrade/comment-page-2/#comment-112271 Peter RV Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:28:10 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=529#comment-112271 I easily lay my cards on the table. I was raised up as a Serb in my Montenegrin family and I intend to die as such. It wasn't untill the vicious agression on my nation occurred that I felt I had to defend it 'tooth and nail' against the subsequent diffamation and humiliation it was subjected. For me, there are no such a thing as 'Serbian extremists' but there are the traitors of the Serbs who are trying to destroy our pride and our traditional values. We have them now as we had them in the past and it is our sacred duty to defeat them. We know their names and God willing we'll see their demise. Anybody's talk against Slobodan Milosevic or Ratko Mladic will fall on a deaf ear, as far as I am concerned. I want to see first the justice for the Serbs. Here, of course, I consider all the Serbs, Kraina, Bosnia and Kosovo. As a Montenegrin, I have a particular attachment to our Orthodox Russia, which I consider our only brotherly friend. Finally, I wish Serbs would refuse to join the EU, with or without Kosovo, and follow our Slav tradition of looking towards the East. Ex Oriente Lux. I will never appologize for my feelings. Just too bad for those who hope to re-educate me. I easily lay my cards on the table.
I was raised up as a Serb in my Montenegrin family and I intend to die as such.
It wasn't untill the vicious agression on my nation occurred that I
felt I had to defend it 'tooth and nail' against the subsequent diffamation and humiliation it was subjected.
For me, there are no such a thing as 'Serbian extremists' but there are the traitors of the Serbs who are trying to destroy our pride and our traditional values. We have them now as we had them in the past and it is our sacred duty to defeat them. We know their names and God willing we'll see their demise.
Anybody's talk against Slobodan Milosevic or Ratko Mladic will fall on a deaf ear, as far as I am concerned. I want to see first the justice for the Serbs. Here, of course, I consider all the Serbs, Kraina, Bosnia and Kosovo.
As a Montenegrin, I have a particular attachment to our Orthodox Russia, which I consider our only brotherly friend.
Finally, I wish Serbs would refuse to join the EU, with or without Kosovo, and follow our Slav tradition of looking towards the East.
Ex Oriente Lux.
I will never appologize for my feelings.
Just too bad for those who hope to re-educate me.

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