Comments on: Does Balkanization Beckon Anew?

By: Iliya Pavlovich

Iliya Pavlovich — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:25:18 +0000

Vitaly important to mention how naive Franz Ferdinand was to have chosen the holliest of Serbian holydays (June 28th - the Day of the Kosovo battle) to rub in the annexation of Serbian Bosnia to the Austro-hungarian empire. It's like celebrating Osama's successes on the Fourth of July. On the other hand ever since The Crimean War (1853–1856), Britain was able to make friends with all enemies (past, present and future) to protect its merchant marine and their dominance of the sea routes. It fosters Russophobia to prevent them from entering the Mediterranian basin (through the Black sea) and allow them the use of only the Baltic Sea ports (most frozen and useless during the Winter months). So we see that for over 200 years the Brits are consistent to themselves.

By: Iliya Pavlovich

Iliya Pavlovich — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:47:14 +0000

As far as I know (and that may not me a lot) Serbs were the only nation who delivered their sitting president (crook or not-crook) to the foreign prison, knowing full well that he'd be found guilty no matter what. Serbs were bombed into the stone age on account of albanian agitprop - nobody bats an eye. If Otto von Bismark was ever right, he's right about the source of future conflicts. The geopolitical quaigmaire is so cleverly disorganized that any party can resort to an armed struggle against any other party at any time. Was that the "the PEACE" NATO was trying to secure? Or was that the instability which, by definition secures only future conflicts, sales or arms and ammunition, finds willing recruits for future wars highly motivated and ready. When it smell like it, feels like, looks like it, you call it - what it is. In a famous dialogue between Henry II (partially French himself) the English monarch and his frequent opponent's (Louis) son the new French King Philip the dialogue went something like this although all eyewitnesses are dead:
Henry II: I came to offer you peace....
Phillip: Piss on your peace. You neither have the power to wage a war not maintain a steady peace....

Such was the youthful impertinence, but accurate and concise. Henry II's eldest son Richard the Lionheart (Coeur de Leon) was the next ruler of England with roots on both the continent and the islands.

I brought up the English and the French since their hostilities started rather early (about 9th century AD, if I am not mistaken) and only officially ended at Waterloo. To this day the French and the English can't see eye to eye. Why would the Serbs be forced to cohabitate with the terrorist Arnauts who were on a clear path usurp the Serbian government for over 50 years.

I absolutely agree that the time just about perfect for another military conflict in Europe - and this time in the Balkans.

By: Roy Tripp

Roy Tripp — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:28:42 +0000

All things work for the good for those who love God.
I believe that what is happening to Serbia is a blessing. It will keep Serbia out of the Godless EU and it anti Christian policies.

God bless Serbia!

By: TJF

TJF — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:56:15 +0000

The best non-Serbian reporting is done by the British Helsinki Human Rights group: http://www.bhhrg.org, which has documented the Albanians' cultural genocide against Serbs and the complicity of UN/US officials with Albanian narco-terrorism.

By: Mihajlo

Mihajlo — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:18:03 +0000

@#56
Damon, it seems that the reason for your figures being heavily off is primarily because you are way off in terms of geography and timing. The source that you are quoting in #60 is a whole year earlier than the actual beginning of the (typically opportunistic) Albanian terrorist KLA uprising that re-started in the 1997 by indiscriminately attacking the Serbian police and government staff (murdering Serbian postal workers in those days accounted for some “points” in the ranks of KLA). However, organised Serbian government response to these provocations started only much later in the 1998. The figures that you are quoting are most likely the final tally of victims on ALL three sides in the Bosnian civil war, Muslims, Croats and Serbs, where Serb victims account for about 50% of the figures you mentioned. Now, assuming that you are not a member of the Congress or Senate, or directly responsible for seriously flawed US foreign policy, your errors would not be seen as catastrophic. The problem of this world is that the Western world (leaders, mostly) blinded by the day to day egoistic pursuits of the exploitative capitalism objectives make decision having global effects with about as much knowledge as you had a few posts earlier. In conclusion, and to answer your direct question on the 1998-1999 Kosovo victim count (not that it really matters how many people has to die in order for US to overturn the international law & order), currently “agreed” figures are around 2000 people (50% Serbian) in Kosovo during these two years, and another 2500 people on the territory of Serbia without Kosovo from the NATO bombing. Barely 400 of the 2500 were in some way related to military operations during the NATO bombing campaign. In the wake pf the occupation of Kosovo by US and their NATO and EU cronies under the cover of UN, at least another 2500 Kosovo Serbs has been killed to date. Some 1600 Serbs are still listed as “missing” since the “liberation” of Kosovo by NATO (also known as KLA’s Air-Force). Some 250000 non-Albanians (mostly Serbs) were permanently cleansed from Kosovo in this period. Objective life expectancy of the Serbs living in the ghettos in the Albanian dominated part of Kosovo is, as of recently, expressed in days.

By: Allen Wilson

Allen Wilson — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:48:27 +0000

Damon, the 'free world' is not free, it commits mass murder in Iraq and Serbia, and those figures you cite were intentionally skewed. The claim that the allegedly 'free' world has some moral obligation to act to stop crimes, real or alleged, is ridiculous. If it means so much to you, then you go, yourself, as your own mercenery fighting in someone else's war, and you, yourself, fight this fight, yourself, and leave me and my kinsmen and neighbours out of it. We have no moral obligation to do anything even when mass murder happens. You have no right to sacrifice us for your silly notions of 'moral obligation' or whatever else anyone calls it. A father has a moral obligation to take care of his family, help his neighbours, and defend his own people and nation, but no one else's. The organisations you cite were biased and cannot be considered reliable. As for accurate figures to refute them, how can one really get accurate figures when information is controlled all sides are not allowed fair voice?

By: Johan Dieckmann

Johan Dieckmann — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:19:20 +0000

... Some good news:

"...

*** Russia could use force in Kosovo ***

Russia's ambassador to Nato, Dmitry Rogozin, has warned that Russia could use military force if the Kosovo independence dispute escalates.

"If the EU develops a unified position or if Nato exceeds its mandate set by the UN, then these organisations will be in conflict with the UN," he said.

In that case Russia would "proceed on the basis that in order to be respected we need to use brute force", he said.

... ... ...

Russian media outcry

The EU will soon deploy 2,000 officials to strengthen law and order in Kosovo, which has a population of about two million. Russia argues that the mission has no legal basis.

There has been a furious reaction in some Russian media to Kosovo's declaration of independence.

A commentary in the Vesti Plus analytical programme, on state-run television, called the assassinated former Serbian Prime Minister, Zoran Djindjic, a Western puppet who had "received a well-deserved bullet".

It said Djindjic had sold national heroes to the International War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague.

The programme concluded that Serbia - and not only Serbia - must now decide whether to acquiesce in what has happened, or resist.

..."

(2008/02/22 13:01:35 GMT, BBC http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7258801.stm )

Tadic could meet his friend Djindjic soon.

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NB
Today's http://www.interfax.ru/?lang=e has several interesting items on Kosovo.

By: News | Serbian Unity Congress » Day of Infamy: Kosovo Separatists Declare Independence, antiwar.com/Nebojsa Malic

Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:05:29 +0000

[...] and the law now scrapped for the principle of “whatever you can get away with,” Balkanization beckons [...]

By: Damon

Damon — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:29:45 +0000

Charlemagne, Frank,
Thank you for your responses. I have heard from other Serb-supporters that the figures we normally hear are exaggerated, but I don't know what this claim of exaggeration is based on. The numbers I used come from the International Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights Annual Report 1996 and the US State Dept, Bosnia & Herzegovina Country report on Human Rights Practices for 1996. Is there a reputable source that provides lower figures?

By: Frank

Frank — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:29:23 +0000

Damon,

I don't think Buchanan reads these responses, but I'll chime in and say that I'm pretty sure your numbers are off. I recall reading that the entire ethnic cleansing claim was a hoax, as phony as WMD in Iraq.