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		<title>By: wuthering Heights</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/11/13/is-world-war-iii-on-hold/comment-page-1/#comment-42759</link>
		<dc:creator>wuthering Heights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;more; if China refuses to extend any more credit to us and/or demands we pay up what we already owe them …&quot; (end quote of above)

to their credit china is biding its time, expecting our &#039;pause&#039; or reality check - so, believe it or not-that they can go Green. its capitalists or state-capitalists won&#039;t &quot;like&quot; it - but in this case (although no communist myself) the party or ruling elite know better...their survival probably depends on it.

china rushed headlong into industrialization and into the present like a kid with a new toy having a blast...but had no experience yet, [like we are still learning slowly in the West] about the need at the same time for conservation, mitigation of pollution etc. Although we ourselves still have not learned or made sufficient headway, since our system currently is owned by the state-capitalists. In America there presently is NO transcendant power or authority for better-or-worse other than our now top-down System itself, sadly. ? 

Anyway china&#039;s cancer rate has exploded (&amp; they know contrary to propaganda in the west - cancer is environmentally driven i.e. pollution being one of its major catalysts, also nutrition, stress/lifestyle etc. - &amp; the west&#039;s genome project i.e. the mapping of the human genome has proven lately - for example - there&#039;s no such thing as a &#039;breast cancer&#039; gene ... etc.) And china&#039;s rivers today have been turned into sewers and its peasants who lived for thousands of years healthful lives along these once pristine tributaries, the peasants in their age old relationship with the land, are suddenly perishing at alarming rates from cancer etc. (which in their cases was unheard of prior.) And these peasants are literally and sadly as well befuddled by what has befallen them. ... While the proletariat i.e. the workers for the state-capitalist class have all been thrown off of their social programs e.g. free medical, education, transportation and so forth in order to motivate them to go out there and work now for almost slave wages (even worse than it is for the working poor now in America)... In other words the larger underbelly of the iceberg of China is more and more a miserable, polluted, disease ridden mess. And yet, as in the west with its minority of fabulously wealthy state-capitalists too! [Yo, it don&#039;t &#039;trickle down&#039; in china either.]

They (i.e. the party and most of the rest of china as well-in reality) can&#039;t wait until they Can take a pause... and clean Up their act. So china will be going green of necessity, slowly now - faster if and when the u.s. isn&#039;t still in its face to move at a break-neck pace in the direction of &#039;progress&#039;.

civilization is green. we need to breathe all of us fresh air among other things. we may be conceptual creatures but we&#039;re creatures too, similar in this regard to God&#039;s other creatures. No? like an eagle is just a glorified vulture; let&#039;s face it we&#039;re just glorified monkies, under God. amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"more; if China refuses to extend any more credit to us and/or demands we pay up what we already owe them …" (end quote of above)</p>
<p>to their credit china is biding its time, expecting our 'pause' or reality check - so, believe it or not-that they can go Green. its capitalists or state-capitalists won't "like" it - but in this case (although no communist myself) the party or ruling elite know better...their survival probably depends on it.</p>
<p>china rushed headlong into industrialization and into the present like a kid with a new toy having a blast...but had no experience yet, [like we are still learning slowly in the West] about the need at the same time for conservation, mitigation of pollution etc. Although we ourselves still have not learned or made sufficient headway, since our system currently is owned by the state-capitalists. In America there presently is NO transcendant power or authority for better-or-worse other than our now top-down System itself, sadly. ? </p>
<p>Anyway china's cancer rate has exploded (&amp; they know contrary to propaganda in the west - cancer is environmentally driven i.e. pollution being one of its major catalysts, also nutrition, stress/lifestyle etc. - &amp; the west's genome project i.e. the mapping of the human genome has proven lately - for example - there's no such thing as a 'breast cancer' gene ... etc.) And china's rivers today have been turned into sewers and its peasants who lived for thousands of years healthful lives along these once pristine tributaries, the peasants in their age old relationship with the land, are suddenly perishing at alarming rates from cancer etc. (which in their cases was unheard of prior.) And these peasants are literally and sadly as well befuddled by what has befallen them. ... While the proletariat i.e. the workers for the state-capitalist class have all been thrown off of their social programs e.g. free medical, education, transportation and so forth in order to motivate them to go out there and work now for almost slave wages (even worse than it is for the working poor now in America)... In other words the larger underbelly of the iceberg of China is more and more a miserable, polluted, disease ridden mess. And yet, as in the west with its minority of fabulously wealthy state-capitalists too! [Yo, it don't 'trickle down' in china either.]</p>
<p>They (i.e. the party and most of the rest of china as well-in reality) can't wait until they Can take a pause... and clean Up their act. So china will be going green of necessity, slowly now - faster if and when the u.s. isn't still in its face to move at a break-neck pace in the direction of 'progress'.</p>
<p>civilization is green. we need to breathe all of us fresh air among other things. we may be conceptual creatures but we're creatures too, similar in this regard to God's other creatures. No? like an eagle is just a glorified vulture; let's face it we're just glorified monkies, under God. amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another point worth noting is the lack of international support for any attack. Sarko, hyped as the greatest thing since Lafayette, insisted that the issue must be resolved diplomatically. Merkel said the same thing a few days later. Gordon Brown is blowing hot and cold. John Howard is in electoral trouble. Politicians all over the world are realising that too close an association with Bush is the kiss of death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point worth noting is the lack of international support for any attack. Sarko, hyped as the greatest thing since Lafayette, insisted that the issue must be resolved diplomatically. Merkel said the same thing a few days later. Gordon Brown is blowing hot and cold. John Howard is in electoral trouble. Politicians all over the world are realising that too close an association with Bush is the kiss of death.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul D. Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/11/13/is-world-war-iii-on-hold/comment-page-1/#comment-42324</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul D. Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can already see the economic collapse, if Iran (in reprisal)devastates the oil fields in Saudi Arabia and the UAE and cuts off the Straits of Hormuz; if Venezuela announces an embargo on oil sales to the USA; if crude oil skyrockets and the pump price of gasoline is $5 or $6 a gallon, possibly more; if China refuses to extend any more credit to us and/or demands we pay up what we already owe them ...

Can you say, &quot;pariah nation&quot;? Or &quot;basket case&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can already see the economic collapse, if Iran (in reprisal)devastates the oil fields in Saudi Arabia and the UAE and cuts off the Straits of Hormuz; if Venezuela announces an embargo on oil sales to the USA; if crude oil skyrockets and the pump price of gasoline is $5 or $6 a gallon, possibly more; if China refuses to extend any more credit to us and/or demands we pay up what we already owe them ...</p>
<p>Can you say, "pariah nation"? Or "basket case"?</p>
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		<title>By: robert m. peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert m. peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superfluous Man

&quot;So perhaps we’ve staved off World War III for a year and change. That is, until Giuliani gets elected.

Can you imagine a presidency with Huckabee (who wants to double the size of our military) as Veep, Podherentz as Secretary of State, Daniel Pipes as Secretary of Defense, and Michael Rubin as ambassador to the U.N.?&quot;

I can already smell the sulfur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superfluous Man</p>
<p>"So perhaps we’ve staved off World War III for a year and change. That is, until Giuliani gets elected.</p>
<p>Can you imagine a presidency with Huckabee (who wants to double the size of our military) as Veep, Podherentz as Secretary of State, Daniel Pipes as Secretary of Defense, and Michael Rubin as ambassador to the U.N.?"</p>
<p>I can already smell the sulfur.</p>
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		<title>By: The Superfluous Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Superfluous Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So perhaps we&#039;ve staved off World War III for a year and change.  That is, until Giuliani gets elected.  

Can you imagine a presidency with Huckabee (who wants to double the size of our military) as Veep, Podherentz as Secretary of State, Daniel Pipes as Secretary of Defense, and Michael Rubin as ambassador to the U.N.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So perhaps we've staved off World War III for a year and change.  That is, until Giuliani gets elected.  </p>
<p>Can you imagine a presidency with Huckabee (who wants to double the size of our military) as Veep, Podherentz as Secretary of State, Daniel Pipes as Secretary of Defense, and Michael Rubin as ambassador to the U.N.?</p>
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		<title>By: roho</title>
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		<dc:creator>roho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good news. Be it Republican or Democrat, somebody castrate this administration and send them to their rooms!

Something very serious happened in August 2007, that has the suspicians of the 10 Days Of October involving the Cuban Missle Crisis?

Those 6 nuclear cruise missles attached to a B-52 from Minot N.D. did not wind up in Baksdale Lousiana AFB by accident!(With several mysterious Air Force deaths during the same period.)

It was no accident that Gen. Peter Pace went vocal on how a &quot;Premptive Nuclear Strike&quot; was a WAR CRIME.....And scientist, and wmd inspector of Britain Dr. David Kelly had one of those mysterious &quot;Vince Fostor&quot; incidents.

Too much smoke in August not to have been a fire?www.globalresearch.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good news. Be it Republican or Democrat, somebody castrate this administration and send them to their rooms!</p>
<p>Something very serious happened in August 2007, that has the suspicians of the 10 Days Of October involving the Cuban Missle Crisis?</p>
<p>Those 6 nuclear cruise missles attached to a B-52 from Minot N.D. did not wind up in Baksdale Lousiana AFB by accident!(With several mysterious Air Force deaths during the same period.)</p>
<p>It was no accident that Gen. Peter Pace went vocal on how a "Premptive Nuclear Strike" was a WAR CRIME.....And scientist, and wmd inspector of Britain Dr. David Kelly had one of those mysterious "Vince Fostor" incidents.</p>
<p>Too much smoke in August not to have been a fire?www.globalresearch.ca</p>
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		<title>By: Virgil Caine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virgil Caine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn straight Brother Reavis! But who will be our brave Colonel to step forth in the words of the immortal Johnny Cash:

    &quot;A hundred eighty were challenged by Travis to die
     By the line he drew with his sword when the battle was nigh
     Any man who&#039;ll to fight to the death cross over
     But if you wanna live you better fly
     And over the line went a hundred seventy nine&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn straight Brother Reavis! But who will be our brave Colonel to step forth in the words of the immortal Johnny Cash:</p>
<p>    "A hundred eighty were challenged by Travis to die<br />
     By the line he drew with his sword when the battle was nigh<br />
     Any man who'll to fight to the death cross over<br />
     But if you wanna live you better fly<br />
     And over the line went a hundred seventy nine"</p>
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		<title>By: robert reavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert reavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One hundred and eighty-seven men for eleven days withstood the Mexican army of Santa Anna. When the battle was done, all of the one hundred eighty-seven brave Americans, including Davy Crockett, lay dead on the ground; and as Crockett said after the first day,  &quot;They will be back.&quot; 

Given the fact that today there are only about 187 Americans within the beltway who oppose the neo-con&#039;s pledge for world empire and democracy against those who &quot;hate us for our freedom,&quot; readers can be assured that , &quot;They will be back.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"One hundred and eighty-seven men for eleven days withstood the Mexican army of Santa Anna. When the battle was done, all of the one hundred eighty-seven brave Americans, including Davy Crockett, lay dead on the ground; and as Crockett said after the first day,  "They will be back." </p>
<p>Given the fact that today there are only about 187 Americans within the beltway who oppose the neo-con's pledge for world empire and democracy against those who "hate us for our freedom," readers can be assured that , "They will be back."</p>
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