Comments on: GOP Race to Toughen and Tighten http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/ Your home for traditional conservatism. Wed, 23 May 2012 17:17:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ed Roberts http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-12123 Ed Roberts Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:53:46 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-12123 Mr. Buchanan, your attempts at legitimizing the GOP's current sham of a primary are as futile as usual. The Gang of Plunderers puts on this show every 4 years. They collect millions of dollars from the federal treasury and loot all 50 states by sticking them with the tabs for their phony primary voting, when their candidates have been chosen long in advance by the party's upper echelon. Rudy Guiliani is the republican candidate, just as Hillary Clinton is the candidate of the democrats. All the two of them have to do is to stay alive until the election to be their party's annointed ones. Anyone but a blind GOP straight ticket voter can spot the candidate before the first straw poll. If you still believe that there's a chance of anyone other than Guiliani becoming the final candidate, then you're more deluded than the average scalawag. Mr. Buchanan, your attempts at legitimizing the GOP's current sham of a primary are as futile as usual. The Gang of Plunderers puts on this show every 4 years. They collect millions of dollars from the federal treasury and loot all 50 states by sticking them with the tabs for their phony primary voting, when their candidates have been chosen long in advance by the party's upper echelon.

Rudy Guiliani is the republican candidate, just as Hillary Clinton is the candidate of the democrats. All the two of them have to do is to stay alive until the election to be their party's annointed ones. Anyone but a blind GOP straight ticket voter can spot the candidate before the first straw poll. If you still believe that there's a chance of anyone other than Guiliani becoming the final candidate, then you're more deluded than the average scalawag.

]]> By: Robert Bruce http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11945 Robert Bruce Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:22:53 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11945 Well Ron Paul overwhelmingly won the Alabama and New hampshire straw polls. Funny how it is not reported at all even on the internet news sources. The fix is in. All I am looking to do is get the hell out of here before Jan 2009. Anybody been to Uruguay? Well Ron Paul overwhelmingly won the Alabama and New hampshire straw polls. Funny how it is not reported at all even on the internet news sources. The fix is in. All I am looking to do is get the hell out of here before Jan 2009. Anybody been to Uruguay?

]]> By: Robert Bruce http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11944 Robert Bruce Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:22:33 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11944 Well Ron Paul overwhelmingly too the Alabama and New hampshire straw polls. Funny how it is not reported at all even on the internet news sources. The fix is in. All I am looking to do is get the hell out of here before Jan 2009. Anybody been to Uruguay? Well Ron Paul overwhelmingly too the Alabama and New hampshire straw polls. Funny how it is not reported at all even on the internet news sources. The fix is in. All I am looking to do is get the hell out of here before Jan 2009. Anybody been to Uruguay?

]]> By: John Q. Public http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11522 John Q. Public Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:54:06 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11522 I do agree with P. Stewart since it matters not at this point - had I my druthers I'd prefer yourself to be prez Ron Paul. But I'm a caring feeling person and so if you are sincere I worry about you...what's the point? "All this the world well knows, yet NONE knows WELL "To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell." -W.S. _________ I do agree with P. Stewart since it matters not at this point - had I my druthers I'd prefer yourself to be prez Ron Paul.

But I'm a caring feeling person and so if you are sincere I worry about you...what's the point?

"All this the world well knows, yet NONE knows WELL
"To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell." -W.S.
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]]> By: P. Stewart http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11511 P. Stewart Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:40:23 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11511 Allen Wilson - They will ALL sell us down the river to whomever offers the most money, except for Ron Paul. Because Ron Paul will have no allies in Congress, he will be a lame duck president from the get go. For the reasons that Lord Karth mentions, it will not matter who is elected in 2008. Allen Wilson - They will ALL sell us down the river to whomever offers the most money, except for Ron Paul. Because Ron Paul will have no allies in Congress, he will be a lame duck president from the get go.

For the reasons that Lord Karth mentions, it will not matter who is elected in 2008.

]]> By: John Q. Public http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11506 John Q. Public Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:01:27 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11506 "I see no way for ANY of the candidates—even the redoubtable Mr. Paul–to prevent any of these crises from exploding; these are systemic problems that arise from the basic structure of American society as it has grown since this country went National-Socialist in 1917." -Lord Krath ... Your Lordship, ditto. We failed a la 1913/17 put the start date wherever you like in that range, just like the soviet union failed because placing that kind of power in the triunity of (big biz)-(govt. quislings)-(inevitably their Media) ... no matter how great the 'system' looks on paper always becomes top heavy like an inverted pyramid & inevitably implodes down upon itself. When 1% of the population every year corals 80% of what the nation produces and the top 1/10th of 1% corals more than the other 9/10ths of the 1% it's farce. Thus, you are absolutely correct it's systemic and systems don't change themselves until they are played out or as it were find their death as a system. (In the meantime in the twilight period they in fact tend to move toward saying you're either with us or against us.) ... However the world is rigged that absolute or perfect balance is not possible; though it is also rigged that approximate balance is Requisite. But it's useless to attempt to whisper that to hogs at the trough...And I wonder Lord is there any good time to whisper that to them? "I see no way for ANY of the candidates—even the redoubtable Mr. Paul–to prevent any of these crises from exploding; these are systemic problems that arise from the basic structure of American society as it has grown since this country went National-Socialist in 1917." -Lord Krath ... Your Lordship, ditto. We failed a la 1913/17 put the start date wherever you like in that range, just like the soviet union failed because placing that kind of power in the triunity of (big biz)-(govt. quislings)-(inevitably their Media) ... no matter how great the 'system' looks on paper always becomes top heavy like an inverted pyramid & inevitably implodes down upon itself. When 1% of the population every year corals 80% of what the nation produces and the top 1/10th of 1% corals more than the other 9/10ths of the 1% it's farce. Thus, you are absolutely correct it's systemic and systems don't change themselves until they are played out or as it were find their death as a system. (In the meantime in the twilight period they in fact tend to move toward saying you're either with us or against us.) ... However the world is rigged that absolute or perfect balance is not possible; though it is also rigged that approximate balance is Requisite. But it's useless to attempt to whisper that to hogs at the trough...And I wonder Lord is there any good time to whisper that to them?

]]> By: Bernie http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11496 Bernie Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:20:38 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11496 I'm surprised he didn't mention Tancredo's strong 4th place showing. Tom and Ron Paul are the only candidates worth voting for. I wish one would drop out so the votes would be united. Go, Tom, Go! I'm surprised he didn't mention Tancredo's strong 4th place showing. Tom and Ron Paul are the only candidates worth voting for. I wish one would drop out so the votes would be united. Go, Tom, Go!

]]> By: Volunteer Voters » A Viable Huckabee Helps Romney? http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11492 Volunteer Voters » A Viable Huckabee Helps Romney? Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:25:51 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11492 [...] Pat Buchanan thinks that Huckabee’s strong second place showing in the Ames Iowa Straw poll is actually a good thing for Romney because it helps make the Iowa caucuses a real race: Here is where the new calendar comes in. [...] [...] Pat Buchanan thinks that Huckabee’s strong second place showing in the Ames Iowa Straw poll is actually a good thing for Romney because it helps make the Iowa caucuses a real race: Here is where the new calendar comes in. [...]

]]> By: Lord Karth http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11467 Lord Karth Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:03:42 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11467 Time to commit the day's ration of heresy....... Is it really and truly going to matter who gets suckered into the White Palace next year ? Whichever poor slob winds up getting handed the sack is going to face several insoluble crises, to wit: 1) Entitlements. The current Imperial spending structure, thanks to the Baby boomers and their immediate generational predecessors, is out of whack and is going to stay out of whack. It is simply a matter of time before Medicare and Medicaid overwhelm the tax structure and crash the economy---I am making NO investments with a maturity date after 2020 in US securities. Social Security's collapse will finish off whatever is left after that. (See Prof. Kotlikoff's books for the proofs of my thesis.) 2) Immigration. Thanks to our elite's refusal to recognize the Mexican elite as America's foremost enemy, we commoners have another dozen years of posturing and show-piece raids in place of serious border enforcement. Her Royal Hillaryness will come under pressure to do something about the flow, in a sort of Nixon-goes-to-China fashion. She, however, does not have the inside-baseball clout with the Mexican elites to take the serious actions required to stop the Invasion. (Obama will be an even bigger flop--albeit a funnier one, some of his notions would be amusing if His Numinous Negroship wasn't a serious candidate for high office--should the Empire see fit to elect him.) Look for open irredentist movements to go public (even more so than MALDEF and La Raza already have) the next time any sort of immigration-control measures are proposed. But do take heart, mes amis....after the crash, the flow of people will be in the other direction. 3) The Eurasian (Russo-Sino-Iranian) axis. Thanks to the biggest foreign-policy mismanagement since Gavrilo Prinzip got his man, there is virtually nowhere for the Empire to go except towards "more of the same". The problem here is that there is now active military cooperation between the Red Chinese and the Russians, and both of them will back Iran against any further efforts to maintain an Imperial military presence in Iraq. The Empire is also vulnerable on the financial front, thanks to the prescription-drug entitlement and related health-care costs that will be kicking in after 2008. (It will prove far easier to reduce spending on an unpopular foreign war than to reduce spending on health care bills for parasitic retirees.) Crossing the Mandarins in Pei'ping will probably lead to them calling in the trillion or so dollars in bonds that the Treasury Dept. has sold them--which would, in conjunction with an Iranian sealing of the Straits of Hormuz (and, for good measure, a Russian embargo on oil exports to Western Europe) lead to $ 200/barrel oil, $ 10/gallon gas and a new Great Depression that will make 1929 look like a day at the beach. I see no way for ANY of the candidates---even the redoubtable Mr. Paul--to prevent any of these crises from exploding; these are systemic problems that arise from the basic structure of American society as it has grown since this country went National-Socialist in 1917. What passes for political "leadership" may be able to soften the blow in one area, or possibly delay the inevitable for a few (not more than 5) years. But the works is coming apart, and the question is more one of "which disaster comes first ?" than of "will disaster happen ?". That being the case, would it really be worth it to have a soi-disant "conservative" occupying the White Palace when the meltdown happens ? Submitting these notions for consideration, I remain Your servant, Lord Karth Time to commit the day's ration of heresy.......

Is it really and truly going to matter who gets suckered into the White Palace next year ? Whichever poor slob winds up getting handed the sack is going to face several insoluble crises, to wit:

1) Entitlements. The current Imperial spending structure, thanks to the Baby boomers and their immediate generational predecessors, is out of whack and is going to stay out of whack. It is simply a matter of time before Medicare and Medicaid overwhelm the tax structure and crash the economy---I am making NO investments with a maturity date after 2020 in US securities. Social Security's collapse will finish off whatever is left after that. (See Prof. Kotlikoff's books for the proofs of my thesis.)

2) Immigration. Thanks to our elite's refusal to recognize the Mexican elite as America's foremost enemy, we commoners have another dozen years of posturing and show-piece raids in place of serious border enforcement. Her Royal Hillaryness will come under pressure to do something about the flow, in a sort of Nixon-goes-to-China fashion. She, however, does not have the inside-baseball clout with the Mexican elites to take the serious actions required to stop the Invasion. (Obama will be an even bigger flop--albeit a funnier one, some of his notions would be amusing if His Numinous Negroship wasn't a serious candidate for high office--should the Empire see fit to elect him.) Look for open irredentist movements to go public (even more so than MALDEF and La Raza already have) the next time any sort of immigration-control measures are proposed. But do take heart, mes amis....after the crash, the flow of people will be in the other direction.

3) The Eurasian (Russo-Sino-Iranian) axis. Thanks to the biggest foreign-policy mismanagement since Gavrilo Prinzip got his man, there is virtually nowhere for the Empire to go except towards "more of the same". The problem here is that there is now active military cooperation between the Red Chinese and the Russians, and both of them will back Iran against any further efforts to maintain an Imperial military presence in Iraq. The Empire is also vulnerable on the financial front, thanks to the prescription-drug entitlement and related health-care costs that will be kicking in after 2008. (It will prove far easier to reduce spending on an unpopular foreign war than to reduce spending on health care bills for parasitic retirees.) Crossing the Mandarins in Pei'ping will probably lead to them calling in the trillion or so dollars in bonds that the Treasury Dept. has sold them--which would, in conjunction with an Iranian sealing of the Straits of Hormuz (and, for good measure, a Russian embargo on oil exports to Western Europe) lead to $ 200/barrel oil, $ 10/gallon gas and a new Great Depression that will make 1929 look like a day at the beach.

I see no way for ANY of the candidates---even the redoubtable Mr. Paul--to prevent any of these crises from exploding; these are systemic problems that arise from the basic structure of American society as it has grown since this country went National-Socialist in 1917. What passes for political "leadership" may be able to soften the blow in one area, or possibly delay the inevitable for a few (not more than 5) years. But the works is coming apart, and the question is more one of "which disaster comes first ?" than of "will disaster happen ?". That being the case, would it really be worth it to have a soi-disant "conservative" occupying the White Palace when the meltdown happens ?

Submitting these notions for consideration, I remain

Your servant,

Lord Karth

]]> By: Allen Wilson http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/08/14/gop-race-to-toughen-and-tighten/comment-page-1/#comment-11466 Allen Wilson Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:36:44 +0000 http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=283#comment-11466 Mr Buchanan's article is insightful as always. However, I disagree that Huckabee is a social conservative. No one who would ramrod a tyrannical law that bans smoking in bars or restaurants can be called a social conservative. He is an arrogant, condescending scoundrel with no principle and no integrity, who will sell himself out and sell us all down the river to whomever has the money. Mr Buchanan's article is insightful as always. However, I disagree that Huckabee is a social conservative. No one who would ramrod a tyrannical law that bans smoking in bars or restaurants can be called a social conservative. He is an arrogant, condescending scoundrel with no principle and no integrity, who will sell himself out and sell us all down the river to whomever has the money.

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