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R. Cort KirkwoodDuring the Republican presidential debate on May 15, Ron Paul, the constitutionalist from Texas, flatly stated that the terrorist attacks on September 11 were retaliation for U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Rudy Giuliani shot back a mendacious rejoinder: “That’s an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of September 11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. I don’t think I’ve heard that before, and I’ve heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th.”

So Giuliani told a double lie—the falsehood that Paul had claimed that the war in Iraq inspired the terrorist attacks of September 11 (a chronological impossibility), and the greater absurdity that he’d never heard of the blowback theory.

If the Stupid Party does not want to lose the 2008 election, not to mention its tenuous hold on solid conservative voters, it had better think twice about nominating “America’s Mayor” for president. A liar, an adulterer, and a leftist goon, Giuliani has already out-Clintoned Bill Clinton, and on many of the same low crimes and misdemeanors.

Topping the list of the goombah’s infamous deeds are his sordid marital monkeyshines. He dumped his first wife on grounds similar to those used by Henry VIII when he tossed Catherine of Aragon overboard. After 14 years of marriage, Giuliani “discovered” that his wife was a second cousin and received a declaration of nullity from the Church. He then married Donna Hanover, whose principal claim to fame is having wangled the lead role in an off-Broadway production of The Vagina Monologues. While married to Hanover, Giuliani jumped between the sheets with his next wife, Judith Nathan, the home wrecker who was prowling Gracie Mansion, the mayoral residence, before the mayor’s second marriage ended. Hanover learned of her forthcoming divorce when Giuliani announced it at a press conference. Not surprisingly, Hanover accused Giuliani of “open and notorious adultery” and received a restraining order to bar Nathan from the mansion. At least Clinton has been down the aisle only once.

Also like Clinton, Giuliani has parlayed politics into tremendous wealth. In December 2001, just three months after the terrorist attacks, Giuliani opened a consulting firm, Giuliani Partners LLC. The original principals included Bernard Kerik, the former New York City police chief accused of ties to the Mob and guilty of misdemeanor corruption; a former priest accused of covering up sex abuse in the Diocese of Rockville Centre on Long Island; and an FBI agent who pilfered souvenirs from Ground Zero. According to a recent article in the Washington Post, the firm collected more than $100 million in fees over five years, and Giuliani became a multimillionaire. His clients “have included a pharmaceutical company that, with Giuliani’s help, resolved a lengthy Drug Enforcement Administration investigation with only a fine; a confessed drug smuggler who hired Giuliani to ensure his security company could do business with the federal government; and the horse racing industry, eager to recover public confidence after a betting scandal.”

For “someone who lived through” September 11, Giuliani is rather soft on illegal immigration. In the City Journal, Heather Mac Donald wrote that the man who would be president went to the mat to stop the federal government from enforcing the country’s immigration laws. “Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. . . . The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to ‘terrorize people.’ Though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, his handpicked charter-revision committee ruled that New York could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government.”

Giuliani is also a staunch supporter of abortion. So wedded is he to the cause of infanticide that he claims it for conservatives. To justify legally murdering the unborn, he observed that “a strict constructionist” Supreme Court, out of respect for precedent, would never overturn Roe v. Wade. Of course, Giuliani is of the “personally opposed, but” persuasion, a reformulated version of the famous Clintonian locution “safe, legal, and rare.”

Giuliani’s personal life and leftist politics may explain his conduct when he was U.S. attorney in Manhattan. In that job, he railroaded “junk-bond” king Michael Milken and others for crimes they did not commit. As Paul Craig Roberts wrote, “Giuliani was unknown until in search of name recognition he staged a stormtrooper assault on the financial firm Princeton/Newport involving fifty federal marshals outfitted with automatic weapons and bulletproof vests. On another occasion, he had two New York investment bankers hauled off their trading floor in handcuffs. Giuliani’s victims had done nothing and were exonerated.”

This is the man the “Hannitized” Smear Bund of conservatives thinks should be president. So they mauled Ron Paul, the only candidate who understands the Constitution and what it was meant, and not meant, to do. The conservatives who backed George W. Bush for president can be excused, at least partly, because he, as McCain and Romney do today, told them lies to get elected.

To his credit, Giuliani hasn’t done that. He’s a liberal, and proud of it. So the conservatives who back him cannot be excused. If the GOP nominates Giuliani, “a small man in search of a balcony,” as columnist Jimmy Breslin called him, the party may be more stupid than anyone thinks, but at least it would reveal the GOP for what it is and likely spell the end of its undeserved reputation as the political home for conservatives.

Come to think of it, maybe nominating Giuliani isn’t such a bad idea after all. It would leave American conservatives homeless and give candidates such as Ron Paul a serious chance to compete for their votes.

The July 2007 issue of ChroniclesR. Cort Kirkwood is the author of Real Men: Ten Courageous Americans to Know and Admire (Cumberland House).

This article first appeared in the July 2007 issue of Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture.

42 Responses »

  1. As someone who lived in NYC during Giuliani's eight-year Reign of Terror I would like to borrow the ex-Mayor's own words but slightly modify them. Like many of my fellow subjects of Giuliani & Co.'s regime, I have often felt like responding thusly everytime Rudy ponitificates at a debate,

    "That’s an extraordinary statement Rudy, as someone who lived through the Giuliani Nightmare, that we, the civilized few residing in New York City invited the mayhem of mid-1990's NYC because we we did not adhere closely enough to the prescriptions offered by you or our local, state, and federal governments. I DO think I’ve heard that before, and I’ve heard some pretty absurd explanations for NYC's descent into the abyss. But I surely won't vote for someone who can't recognize the damage he did”

    Thank you, Mr. Kirkwood, for reminding those of us in NYC, and informing the rest of the country, of how venal our former Mayor truly is.

  2. Saying that the US was responsible for the attacks of 9/11 was precisely what Ron Paul was saying when he made those comments in the debate.

    I worked for the man for 12 years. I know his political views.

    Even more frightenly, the day of 9/11, literally hours after the attacks, Ron Paul was telling us staffers that it was an "insignificant event," and the only important aspect of it, was the fact that it meant the government would get bigger.

    Not a single statement from him to any of us, about the deaths of 3,000 Americans. And absolutely no denounciations from him of the Islamic extremists who had brought such death and destruction to the United States.

    I'm a hardcore libertarian, and I will be supporting Rudy Giuliani for President. Certainly not a so-called "libertarian" like Ron Paul who doesn't view Islamo-Fascism as a threat to our individual liberties.

    Rudy gets it. You can't have freedom without life. Ron Paul does not.

    Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide
    US Congressman Ron Paul
    1997-2003

  3. Dear Eric Dondero:

    Now that I'm through laughing my a** off, I can say that after almost six years, anybody who still believes that 19 Arabs, who don't show up on any boarding videos, pulled off 9/11 is not only dumber than a fifth-grader, he's dumber than a fifth-grader's bowel movement.

    You really should consider doing stand-up.

  4. "The conservatives who backed George W. Bush for president can be excused, at least partly, because he, as McCain and Romney do today, told them lies to get elected."

    Bush I " Read My Lips, no new taxes ! "

    Clinton I ' I did, but did not inhale"

    Clinton II " It depends on what is, is "

    Bush II ...??? How can we, or why bother to count the lies ?
    A humbler foreign policy ? WMD's ? Mission Accomplished ? Bring'em on ? Cake walk ? Iraqi oil should pay for this war ? Any member of my administration involved in this leak will be prosecuted !! ... and then pardoned ?

    Question : How deaf, dumb and stupid do conservatives need to become before they can no longer be excused under the catch all provision of "having been lied to ? "

    Prediction : Ron Paul will receive the same one or two percent that Pat Buchanan received in the last election under the same duopoly call to " come home conservatives," The same call that has secured a waste land for every homeschooling, homesteading, christian, conservative or libertarian willing to live there for four more years. There is no such thing as that republican fiction," moral majority," if there ever really was.

    A Remembrance Of Things Past : " Grow up, conservatives !"

  5. MR. Dondero,
    I am just a farmer in the heartland now'a days and like Willie Nelson, "I don't get around much anymore." But I know that many years ago a "Senior Aid " could be persuaded to betray for about thirty pieces of silver. Just out of curiosity, ( with inflation, real purchasing power and taxes excluded ) what is the going rate these days ? And what is the contemporary secret sign ? Is it still a kiss ? A handshake ? Or has everything gone direct deposit ?

  6. Welcome Eric. Nice of you to join us over here in an unfriendly environment.

    Please explain to me how Islamo-Fascism (a ridiculously imprecise word) in the Middle East threatens our individual liberties here?

    The response to the 9/11 terrorist attack, which was a criminal not military enterprise, threatens our individual liberties a lot more than far away "I-Fs" do.

    The only potential threat to our individual liberties is from massive Muslim immigration. That is an immigration problem. Not a military one.

  7. "Not a single statement from him to any of us, about the deaths of 3,000 Americans."

    Not a single statement from Mr. Dondero to any of us, about the deaths of 42,000 Americans to highway fatalities in the year 2001.

  8. Mr. Dondero, are you the same Eric Dondero who used to work for Ron Paul who is now running for Ron Paul's Congressional seat ? The same Eric Dondero who used to be a Libertarian and is now a Republican ? You may want to tell us these things before posting if you are in fact one and the same. I fail to see how a hardcore libertarian could support Rudy. I lived in NY during his second term and he supports the nanny state pretty hard. But principles got tossed when you start the climb to power. You serve the Party Comrade!

  9. Anyone who actually uses the word "Islamo-fascist" in a serious manner needs to go to larison.org and read about why that's such an idiotic term. Also, anyone who actually agrees with Gooniani on pretty much ANYTHING needs to get a clue.

  10. "Islamo-Fascism" is simply the long spelling. Like "transportation" for "transport".

  11. "Rudy gets it. You can’t have freedom without life." Mr. Dondero: Perhaps you could submit this platitude for consideration by "Rudy's" campaign. The Four Horsemen need all the help they can get.

  12. Big M above is correct. At Google videos

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change+recut

    and elsewhere.

    As for the abomination named Giuliani, well said Mr. Kirkwood.

    The unfortunate fact is that the presidential elections are in practice a well-controlled event, where the actual powers that own (and hence control) everything put forth their couple of pre-approved "candidates", and let the feeble of mind "vote". The retards oblige and get "into" it in earnest, their emotions all fired up as in a sports event, with cheerleaders and all... The "winner", of course, is nothing more than a CEO, who manages the owners' property. As a bonus, he also doubles as a lightning rod for that same "electorate" should they ever partially wake to some obvious calamity, such as Iraq.

  13. G.S.,

    "Not a single statement from Mr. Dondero to any of us, about the deaths of 42,000 Americans to highway fatalities in the year 2001."

    Nor of the 4,000+ that died that day (9/11/01) and every day at the hands of the abortionist.

  14. Rudy is a Bush person, he will be next president.

  15. […] July 5, 2007 Come to think of it, maybe nominating Giuliani isn’t such a bad idea after all.

    Every Patriotic American should be sitting these primaries out and supporting a conservative Buchanan/Paul ticket in the fall with four national debates that include Hillary, Giuliani, Buchanan, ( red,white and blue) and a VP debate with Obama, McCain and Ron Paul. (the new, the old and the true) Or maybe Hillary and Jeb Bush will step up and unite the duopoly under the theme of Global Healing/ National Attack -- becoming one divider and uniter as our two eyes focus on one object --- then we can have another eight years like the last twenty -- either a Clinton or Bush being lead by oligarchs promoted and cheered by neo-cons.

  16. Why is it so hard to plainly state that if we were not dependant on ME oil that the entire ME would not matter much at all to us. And, further, that if we were not in the ME because of oil (with Israel in the mix) the U.S. would not be singled out for revenge by a re-emergent Mohamadeanism there.
    And is it so hard to state that the state religion of the U.S. needs to resettle this "religion of peace" on our soil to the detrement of our peace. How hard can it be?
    Is whistleing through the graveyard so pleasurable?

  17. Giuliani, for all his faults and deceit, did correctly characterize Paul's assertion about why, at least partially, 9/11 was carried out--we had attacked Iraq in the late 1990's, and this and other "affronts" to the Religion of Peace stirred that religion's most fervent to action against the infidels. That is what Paul said and that is what Giuliani said he said.

    Kirkwood needlessly castigates Giuliani as a "liar" because the fmr mayor told "the falsehood that Paul had claimed that the war in Iraq inspired the terrorist attacks of September 11." Giuliani was not talking about this war with Iraq, but rather the Bill Clinton inspired missile attack against Iraqi military sites in the late 1990's sometime. The jihadists have said the very same thing about this strike being another cause for war with the infidels. So, the lesson here is do not castigate a notorious sheister for correctly apprising another man's speech when said sheister has provided much fodder besides.

  18. "Why is it so hard to plainly state that if we were not dependant on ME oil that the entire ME would not matter much at all to us. And, further, that if we were not in the ME because of oil (with Israel in the mix) the U.S. would not be singled out for revenge by a re-emergent Mohamadeanism there.
    And is it so hard to state that the state religion of the U.S. needs to resettle this “religion of peace” on our soil to the detrement of our peace. How hard can it be?
    Is whistleing through the graveyard so pleasurable?

    Craig, the myth that we are dependent on ME oil has become a received truth. Here's the actual truth, though.

    Half of the oil consumed by the U.S. is produced domestically. Of the remaining half, 80% comes from Mexico and Canada, and a large part of the remainder comes from Venezuela. Just a small part of it comes from the ME, and most of that from Saudi Arabia.

    Most ME oil goes to Europe, China and Japan. The U.S. interest in controlling the flow of that oil is largely so that U.S.-based oil companies can reap the profits from selling it to Spain, France, Germany, China and Japan. (Can you say economic blackmail? I knew you could.) It is not necessarily needed for U.S. manufacturers and consumers.

    Of course, production decisions made by oil-producing Arab countries can certainly affect world oil prices. The myth that the U.S. is almost totally dependent on ME oil needs to die, but it won't, since the media are in bed with the federal government, and that myth helps to justify the need to grab all of "our" oil that's under "their" sand.

    China signed a $100 billion oil deal with Iran recently. It will certainly be interesting to see what happens if/when the fascists in DC invade Iran, and anything happens to prevent said oil from reaching China, or if the U.S. tries to alter or revoke any part of the deal. Of course, messing with the deal wouldn't seem likely, since it would just be U.S.-based oil companies making the money, instead of the Iranian people/government. However, if this country does invade Iran, the straits that the oil flows through could be completely blocked; if you think that gas prices are bad now, watch what happens then. Does anybody remember that one of the reasons that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor was Roosevelt's cutting off Japan's oil imports?

    Stay tuned . . .

  19. And you know why, among other reasons, FDR cut off Japan's imports in the first place? Because those imports were largely fueling Japan's imperialist-militarist march through manchuria, china et al in the Pacific rim.

    We will not invade Iran. There may be some type of military action taken, but it will not be the near the size and scope of our present abomination in Iraq.

  20. We have absolutely no business in Iraq and Dr. Ron Paul knows it. I tell you that the Middle East has been around much longer that even the United States has existed. If they were so enraged with our liberties, our wealth, our freedom, or even our religious beliefs, why have they waited some 200+ years to attack us?? Again Ron Paul was dead on it when he stated that 911 has everything to do with our own foreign policy. If it's not our business then stay out of it!! There are so many unanswered questions about 9-11 that I don't even think it has anything to do with Arabs/Muslims or anything Middle East. To many funny things about that day to believe this was an attack. Ron Paul is the only Rep candidate that could defeat Hilllary Clinton (uuughhh!!) and if he is not nominated, you may as well give her the keys to the White House. If that happens I'll have to look for another country to call home.

  21. Big M gives a good analysis:

    "... Half of the oil consumed by the U.S. is produced domestically. Of the remaining half, 80% comes from Mexico and Canada, and a large part of the remainder comes from Venezuela. Just a small part of it comes from the ME, and most of that from Saudi Arabia. ..."

    Thus, of all the oil that is consumed in the U.S., only ***a small fraction of 10%*** (was it 2% of the total?) comes from Middle East!

    "... The U.S. interest in controlling the flow of that oil is largely so that U.S.-based oil companies can reap the profits from selling it to Spain, France, Germany, China and Japan. ..."

    "... The myth that the U.S. is almost totally dependent on ME oil needs to die, but it won’t, since the media are in bed with the federal government, and that myth helps to justify the need to grab all of “our” oil that’s under “their” sand. ..."

    True. That is one of the heads of Hydra.

    Another head is the chokehold of the Zionist cabal on our entire government apparatus, not to mention the media, academia, and so on. Israel is not a stable and viable creation, and would collapse in no time without being aggressively propped up by the U.S.

    The myth of "total dependence on ME oil" conveniently serves dual purpose, to cover up the shameful profiteering of big oil companies, and to serve as a smokescreen in going to "preemptive" wars at behest of Israel.

  22. This site gives great info about the U.S. - Mexico oil struggle going on through NAFTA with all the problems surrounding immigration. I recommend this report i found to everyone.

    http://www.isecureonline.com/Reports/DRI/EDRIH668/

    Enjoy

  23. Evne if 85% of the above views are accurate - they don't meet the lowest criteria of acceptance. Every politician has a "built-in" plausable deniablity and some way of blaming the prior governments (appointees, viceroys, governors, mayors, presidents, etc. etc.). If you only take Mayor Lindsy and Ed Koch who both preceeded Giuliani - he was a dramitic improvement in many areas of "lesser importance". Times Square was cleaned; Korean massage parlors were busted for prostitution, fruit stands were subject to more rigorous inspections. Even the traffic tickets became enfoceable. In spite of his many drawbacks, Guiliani did a lot of good too.

  24. Did Eric post a hit and run? Come on back Eric. I really want to know what goes through the head of a "libertarian" who supports fascists, "law and order," pro-gun control Rudy.

  25. So, Rudy knows that "without life there is no freedom"? Yeah, tell that to all the aborted babies. Guiliani is a scary guy and a proto-fascist in my opinion. He and Hillary might as well run on the same ticket for all the differences between them. What would they even debate about? He blew off a seat on the 9/11 commission to make speeches at $200K a pop. No wonder he doesn't understand blowback. If he'd even bothered to read the 9/11 Commission's report, he'd know that Dr. Paul was right on the money. And unfortunately, Dr. Paul was right on the money about the attacks providing an excuse for the semi-military surveillance state we now live in and the excuse that the big government conservatives were looking for to take away our civil liberties in the guise of "protecting us". Terrorism is a problem, but most of us are more likely to die in a car accident or being stung by bees than in an terrorist attack. It's vastly overrated as a threat. I think it's somewhat less dangerous than the old Soviet Union and we know how that turned out...

    I have been a lifelong Republican but am thoroughly digusted with the neocons and what they've done in their "Invasion of the Party Snatchers". But if Rudy gets the nod, I am so done with the GOP for good!

    No political candidate is perfect but I think Dr. Paul comes the closest to Catholic social teaching: against an unjust war, believes in subsidarity, prolife, believes that our first duties are to our family and neighborhood and that charity begins at home. He is the only candidate I would even consider voting for. I was interested in Sam Brownback. But he couldn't even bring himself to say that torture is always wrong. And he's pretty much on board with the debacle called "Iraq".

    George Mason University economics professor and columnist Walter Williams says that if the Founding Fathers came back to life, Ron Paul is one of only two or three people they'd even talk to. Paul has mentioned him as a running mate. Paul-Williams or Paul-Buchanan! Now that would be a ticket! About as likely as my winning the lottery, but I can dream, can't I!

    Mr. Kirkwood is right, Hannity is a moron. Did you see him screaming and yelling at a priest recently? And he tries to present himself as Mr. Good Irish Catholic. I enjoyed seeing Dr. Paul handing him his rearend on a platter after the Republican debate.

    Yeah, the people killed in 9/11 was a terrible tragedy but it was a criminal act by an outlaw gang. And the mess in Iraq has cost more than that in American lives, in wounded and maimed troops, and in Iraqi civilian lives, maybe as many as 600,000 though no one knows for sure. And George Bush is the best damn thing that ever happened to bin Ladin and Al-Quada.

    It will take years to clean up the neo con mess. And most of the Democrats are interventionist neo liberals. Just as bad.

    Remember the Constitution? Can it be brought back? Dr. Paul wants to try!!

  26. Are there any sources to back up the statistics on oil? It is implied in this article that 17% of the oil that is consumed by the United States originates in the ME. I don't know who makes the claim that we are almost "totally" dependent on ME oil, but 17% is a significant number, and it may even grow as other sources go into decline.

  27. I totally agree with Kirkwood's closing paragraph. If the party is so stupid to not nominate Paul, then I hope they go with Rudy and kill the Republican party once and for all (which in turn opens the door for Libertarian and Consitutionalist Parties).

  28. Be sure to let me know when Dandy Eric's run for office begins in time to take off of work to help spread the word throughout Texas of Dandy's lack of character.

  29. It took 10 minutes to stop laughing at Dondero's comment. Is this really you? Hardcore libertarian? Oh my!

    Faced with the unfortunate choice of either pulling the lever for Benito Guiliani or putting a bullet in his own head, any libertarian worth his salt would soon be laying dead on the floor.

    How exactly does one make the transition from libertarian to fascist? Is there a manual somewhere?

    Supporting Il Duce is bad enough, but claiming to be a libertarian supporting him is unbelievable. You sir are a disgrace to the word libertarian. Please stop calling youself one.

  30. "Ron Paul is the only Rep candidate that could defeat Hilllary Clinton (uuughhh!!) and if he is not nominated, you may as well give her the keys to the White House. If that happens I’ll have to look for another country to call home."

    Take comfort: Hillary Clinton is a ripe candidate for removal by a coup d'état if her record of executive performances (remember HillaryCare?) is any indication of her competence. I give it a sixty percent chance she wouldn't stay in office eighteen months.

    "Remember the Constitution? Can it be brought back? Dr. Paul wants to try!!"

    Someone made a remark to the effect that the U.S. was "saddled with a Constitution crafted for a small eighteenth-century farmer's republic." I have for some time been convinced that if conservatives want to save this country, they have GOT to de-sanctify that sacred cow known as the Constitution. We may like what the U.S. was in the years immediately after its break from England, but things change. (My own family has never seen the antebellum U.S.)

  31. No, "things" do not change. The insane and evil still lust for power, bad men still get in bed with government to pursue their own agendas, and the poor and middle class continually pay the price.

    The Constitution, or something like it, is the only thing that can protect the people from the ravages of tyranny. That's it. It's a contract. However, so many people, like you suggest, have decided it's something to be "interpreted" or "de sanctified" that it has become something of a curiosity, and no longer a shield.

    Clarence Thomas is about the only guy on the Supreme Court with any sense whatsoever. The rest of them are agenda-pushers, "right" or "left" as the case may be. A more proper directional characterization is "down." As in, down with the people, up with government power.

    Ron Paul doesn't want to roll back the clock to 1787 - he simply wants to defend the people. It just so happens the Constitution is a good way to do that.

  32. Mr. Moses is correct re: the Constitution. Russell Kirk realized that "Constitutional Conservatism" was merely another unimaginative abstraction. Much of what remained of the Old Republic prior to the 1860's, was violently uprooted during that decade. "You can't go home again" in the narrow sense. But, like the Old Covenant remnant in the 6thC BC, if Providence calls you can return to the only hope of historical connectedness, do what is right, and watch amazed as God achieves His own transcendent purposes.

    As great a wasteland as our postmodern, multicultural landscape is, we now are afforded unique opportunities to make true localized impacts if we avail ourselves. In so doing, we may even be successful in connecting important strands of the past to the future.

    Those who are clamoring for a politician to lead the US forward are bound to be disappointed. Chronicles reminds us that culture always trumps politics. Ron Paul for Prez groupies are wasting their time. However, at least Paul understands something about what has been lost for generations. The former staffer who wants to replace him is just another hack. (And the 9/11 conspiracy theorists who comment on this site and elsewhere are not worth worrying over; they'll move on to fascination with other shiny objects in due course...)

  33. ***********************************************
    At YouTube.com:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I

    Rudy's 9/11 Failures of Leadership Exposed by Fire Fighters

    ***********************************************

    Excerpt from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19707130/ :

    "... WASHINGTON - If there was one lesson of the 2004 election cycle, it was respond to attacks quickly and directly. In the summer of 2004, John Kerry let a slowly building media campaign against his Vietnam War experience explode into a debacle. From that campaign a new phrase entered the political lexicon: “swift boating.” Now it appears that Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani may have his own “swift boaters.”

    Now the International Association of Fire Fighters, the union for professional firefighters with a long history of support for Democratic candidates, is getting into the act with a 13-minute video that is essentially a long attack ad against Giuliani’s support for firefighters when he was mayor of New York. It is buttressed by a comprehensive Web site titled “ Rudy Giuliani: Urban Legend.”

    Both the video and the Web site were unveiled Wednesday. Simultaneously, the video is being uplinked to YouTube and at least a handful of other Internet video sites like video.google.com. ..."

  34. ***********************************************

    At YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I

    Rudy's 9/11 Failures of Leadership Exposed by Fire Fighters

    ***********************************************

    From http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19707130/ :

    "... July 11, 2007 ... WASHINGTON - If there was one lesson of the 2004 election cycle, it was respond to attacks quickly and directly. In the summer of 2004, John Kerry let a slowly building media campaign against his Vietnam War experience explode into a debacle. From that campaign a new phrase entered the political lexicon: “swift boating.” Now it appears that Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani may have his own “swift boaters.”

    Now the International Association of Fire Fighters, the union for professional firefighters with a long history of support for Democratic candidates, is getting into the act with a 13-minute video that is essentially a long attack ad against Giuliani’s support for firefighters when he was mayor of New York. It is buttressed by a comprehensive Web site titled “ Rudy Giuliani: Urban Legend.”

    Both the video and the Web site were unveiled Wednesday. Simultaneously, the video is being uplinked to YouTube and at least a handful of other Internet video sites like video.google.com. ..."

  35. On YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I

    Rudy's 9/11 Failures of Leadership Exposed by Fire Fighters

    ***********************************************

    From http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19707130/ :

    "... July 11, 2007
    WASHINGTON - If there was one lesson of the 2004 election cycle, it was respond to attacks quickly and directly. In the summer of 2004, John Kerry let a slowly building media campaign against his Vietnam War experience explode into a debacle. From that campaign a new phrase entered the political lexicon: “swift boating.” Now it appears that Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani may have his own “swift boaters.”

    Now the International Association of Fire Fighters, the union for professional firefighters with a long history of support for Democratic candidates, is getting into the act with a 13-minute video that is essentially a long attack ad against Giuliani’s support for firefighters when he was mayor of New York. It is buttressed by a comprehensive Web site titled “ Rudy Giuliani: Urban Legend.”

    Both the video and the Web site were unveiled Wednesday. Simultaneously, the video is being uplinked to YouTube and at least a handful of other Internet video sites like video.google.com. ..."

  36. Giuliani’s ‘swift boaters’ !

    Check:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I

  37. To the chroniclesmagazine.com web management:

    You apparently need much improvement in your technical management of comments.

    After posting a comment here this morning produced no result, on second try of the same, both the first and the second copy appeared "tentatively", each with a generic label saying that each was awaiting the moderator. You did not send any explanation to my e-mail.

    However, these two copies now magically disappeared, so I attempted posting the third time - on the assumption that if this was not a technical hitch, there was some terrestrial intelligence (embodied in a moderator) that would preclude appearance of multiple copies. I was apparently quite mistaken in making such a generous assumption.

  38. Half of the oil consumed by the U.S. is produced domestically. Of the remaining half, 80% comes from Mexico and Canada, and a large part of the remainder comes from Venezuela. Just a small part of it comes from the ME, and most of that from Saudi Arabia.

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