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		<title>By: n &#38; M air conditioning</title>
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		<dc:creator>n &#38; M air conditioning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;n &amp; M air conditioning...&lt;/strong&gt;

Total system maintenance is a no brainer in my opinion...</description>
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<p>Total system maintenance is a no brainer in my opinion...</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky J. Suhayda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky J. Suhayda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 03:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Muza, 

Racial Greetings White Brother! 

The American Nazi Party is a Political-Educational Association, dedicated to the 14 WORDS. We are committed to bringing American National Socialism, first created and embodied by our late Commander George Lincoln Rockwell, out of the past Phase One activities which at the time served their purpose well, and into the 21st Century. 

Although National Socialism encompasses many various issues of concern to Aryan Americans, including a healthy environment, children&#039;s welfare, and freedom of belief without fear of System persecution...the two main tenants of National Socialism embodies the Struggle for Aryan Racial survival, and Social Justice for White Working Class people throughout our land. 

As Aryan Revolutionaries, we recognize the fact that behaving in the manner of past activities, little progress has been achieved for our Cause. That is why we have taken a new direction. In the American Nazi Party, you will find no uniforms or ranks, we do not engage in publicly exposing our Comrades to undo publicity through pointless and dangerous Rallies or Marches. We instead stress Small Cell, and Individual Activism as the path for which to build our Movement, as securely and in a responsible manner as possible. 

We are looking for Men and Women, who are willing to sacrifice for the Good of the Folk, not people who are looking for aggrandizement, titillation, or simply causing undirected and useless mayhem. This is not a game or a gang. 

It is a very serious Struggle that we are involved in for the very existence of our White Nation of people. Those who are simply intent on pranks or causing trouble should perhaps look elsewhere for stimulation. 

If you are interested in learning more about the American Nazi Party, we suggest writing to our National Headquarters and requesting an Info Pack. 

Please enclose a $5 donation to cover costs. This information will be relayed to you as quickly as possible. 

Each of us must decide just how far we will let the situation in America deteriorate, before we decide to take action to correct it. If you have had enough, and are willing to join the ranks of your ancestors who forged this land from a wilderness teeming with savages, and to keep it from returning to that state, we urge you to become involved. For your children&#039;s sake, if not for your own. For White WORKER Power! 

Rocky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Muza, </p>
<p>Racial Greetings White Brother! </p>
<p>The American Nazi Party is a Political-Educational Association, dedicated to the 14 WORDS. We are committed to bringing American National Socialism, first created and embodied by our late Commander George Lincoln Rockwell, out of the past Phase One activities which at the time served their purpose well, and into the 21st Century. </p>
<p>Although National Socialism encompasses many various issues of concern to Aryan Americans, including a healthy environment, children's welfare, and freedom of belief without fear of System persecution...the two main tenants of National Socialism embodies the Struggle for Aryan Racial survival, and Social Justice for White Working Class people throughout our land. </p>
<p>As Aryan Revolutionaries, we recognize the fact that behaving in the manner of past activities, little progress has been achieved for our Cause. That is why we have taken a new direction. In the American Nazi Party, you will find no uniforms or ranks, we do not engage in publicly exposing our Comrades to undo publicity through pointless and dangerous Rallies or Marches. We instead stress Small Cell, and Individual Activism as the path for which to build our Movement, as securely and in a responsible manner as possible. </p>
<p>We are looking for Men and Women, who are willing to sacrifice for the Good of the Folk, not people who are looking for aggrandizement, titillation, or simply causing undirected and useless mayhem. This is not a game or a gang. </p>
<p>It is a very serious Struggle that we are involved in for the very existence of our White Nation of people. Those who are simply intent on pranks or causing trouble should perhaps look elsewhere for stimulation. </p>
<p>If you are interested in learning more about the American Nazi Party, we suggest writing to our National Headquarters and requesting an Info Pack. </p>
<p>Please enclose a $5 donation to cover costs. This information will be relayed to you as quickly as possible. </p>
<p>Each of us must decide just how far we will let the situation in America deteriorate, before we decide to take action to correct it. If you have had enough, and are willing to join the ranks of your ancestors who forged this land from a wilderness teeming with savages, and to keep it from returning to that state, we urge you to become involved. For your children's sake, if not for your own. For White WORKER Power! </p>
<p>Rocky</p>
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		<title>By: John Chance</title>
		<link>http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2007/06/08/americanism-then-and-now-our-pet-heresy/comment-page-1/#comment-3872</link>
		<dc:creator>John Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl, while your points are well taken and true to a point, I would rather not have child holcaust, homos,Warmongering (a outgrowth of NWO/Masonic), rampant immorality and the smugness which is characteristic of the USA-something even the Founders could not envision or stomach.

IF only I had the $$ and my wife was willing to move, I would consider fleeing somewhere else. But.....

As for books, there is one written by a new author about Charles Carroll that is worth a good read and is fair/balanced (unlike Faux News).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl, while your points are well taken and true to a point, I would rather not have child holcaust, homos,Warmongering (a outgrowth of NWO/Masonic), rampant immorality and the smugness which is characteristic of the USA-something even the Founders could not envision or stomach.</p>
<p>IF only I had the $$ and my wife was willing to move, I would consider fleeing somewhere else. But.....</p>
<p>As for books, there is one written by a new author about Charles Carroll that is worth a good read and is fair/balanced (unlike Faux News).</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Seidl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Seidl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hunting and fishing in the United States is the best in the world.  That&#039;s the best thing about the place.  Wide open places, rivers, lakes, even oceans.  It&#039;s great.

As for the civilization founded here, well, it&#039;s almost entirely based upon various heresies.  Thomas Jefferson railed almost endlessly against the Faith and its doctrines, often calling them the creations of &quot;priestcraft&quot;.   The rejection of the Church in Rome is an intregal but often overlooked part of American history.

These heresies have led to the disaster of slavery, the advancement of Freemasonry, wars of conquest against Mexico and Spain to advance the new Masonic religion and its secret agenda, needless participation in the first world war which helped lead us into a second,  and many other crisis.

But, who&#039;s perfect?   I&#039;ll take the hunting and fishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hunting and fishing in the United States is the best in the world.  That's the best thing about the place.  Wide open places, rivers, lakes, even oceans.  It's great.</p>
<p>As for the civilization founded here, well, it's almost entirely based upon various heresies.  Thomas Jefferson railed almost endlessly against the Faith and its doctrines, often calling them the creations of "priestcraft".   The rejection of the Church in Rome is an intregal but often overlooked part of American history.</p>
<p>These heresies have led to the disaster of slavery, the advancement of Freemasonry, wars of conquest against Mexico and Spain to advance the new Masonic religion and its secret agenda, needless participation in the first world war which helped lead us into a second,  and many other crisis.</p>
<p>But, who's perfect?   I'll take the hunting and fishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Check</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The  Pernoud book is excellent and by no means a polemic.  Regine Pernoud is France&#039;s top Joan of Arc scholar.  Her research is very careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  Pernoud book is excellent and by no means a polemic.  Regine Pernoud is France's top Joan of Arc scholar.  Her research is very careful.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ezzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ezzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THOSE TERRIBLE MIDDLE AGES, by Regine Pernoud, might be a good
book to recommend here, if I may. 

The lie that Christianity caused the collapse of civilization is just one more to add to the three other BIG LIES -- private property is bad; the sexes are interchangeable; marriage is a social construct -- that liberals believe. 

Mr. Check -- a splendid article, sir. Looking forward to more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THOSE TERRIBLE MIDDLE AGES, by Regine Pernoud, might be a good<br />
book to recommend here, if I may. </p>
<p>The lie that Christianity caused the collapse of civilization is just one more to add to the three other BIG LIES -- private property is bad; the sexes are interchangeable; marriage is a social construct -- that liberals believe. </p>
<p>Mr. Check -- a splendid article, sir. Looking forward to more.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Check</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/08/the_notsogolden_age_of_islamic.html

Dear Mr. Diekman--

The above article is a useful and short treatment of the overstated contributions of Islam to the preservation of classical learning.

Best,

Chris</description>
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<p>Dear Mr. Diekman--</p>
<p>The above article is a useful and short treatment of the overstated contributions of Islam to the preservation of classical learning.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: robert reavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert reavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Diekman,
 I hate to impose on the good exchange between you and Mr. Check. Both of you are fully capable of defending your respective positions but I did want to suggest one correction because it is a commonplace among the masses today. You write :&quot;something that had been completely stymied by Christian madness in Dark Ages (a common term, synonymous with Early Middle Ages, from V to X century) and beyond.&quot; 
  The truth is just the opposite of this common English historical falsehood. It was the Church that saved everything worth saving from the old exhausted and degenerate culture of the Empire during the Dark ages. St Benedict on his way to college in Rome saw the whole rotten collapse coming ahead of him, as if in another of those mysterious Saintly visions we all cry humbug about today, and staged one of the most magnificent,  tactical retreats in our civilizations history. His monastery like the thousand others that would rise in its shadow, was the very beginning of the cultural flowering of the Gospels sanctification for the old empire. This is the simple truth of the dark ages not that the Church created them , the Church was the only light shining amidst the darkness. How could any serious chronicle of culture ignore this obvious and obscure fact, especially with a new dark age of  western culture so fast upon us.
To ask where would we be today but for that papal babel and whore to the dark ages is to simply look around you. It is a vanishing whore and the crowds gathering at the door are becoming more,not less unruly and vicious. But there are still houses of prayer and they will do what they have done before, redeem the times in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Amen rr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Diekman,<br />
 I hate to impose on the good exchange between you and Mr. Check. Both of you are fully capable of defending your respective positions but I did want to suggest one correction because it is a commonplace among the masses today. You write :"something that had been completely stymied by Christian madness in Dark Ages (a common term, synonymous with Early Middle Ages, from V to X century) and beyond."<br />
  The truth is just the opposite of this common English historical falsehood. It was the Church that saved everything worth saving from the old exhausted and degenerate culture of the Empire during the Dark ages. St Benedict on his way to college in Rome saw the whole rotten collapse coming ahead of him, as if in another of those mysterious Saintly visions we all cry humbug about today, and staged one of the most magnificent,  tactical retreats in our civilizations history. His monastery like the thousand others that would rise in its shadow, was the very beginning of the cultural flowering of the Gospels sanctification for the old empire. This is the simple truth of the dark ages not that the Church created them , the Church was the only light shining amidst the darkness. How could any serious chronicle of culture ignore this obvious and obscure fact, especially with a new dark age of  western culture so fast upon us.<br />
To ask where would we be today but for that papal babel and whore to the dark ages is to simply look around you. It is a vanishing whore and the crowds gathering at the door are becoming more,not less unruly and vicious. But there are still houses of prayer and they will do what they have done before, redeem the times in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Amen rr</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Dieckmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Dieckmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Re. comment #33)

&quot;... It is beyond the capacity of this medium to serve as the forum of a conversation among people who, on the one side, regard the Incarnation as the central event of human history, and on the other side, describe the religion that the Incarnation caused as a “monotheistic import from the middle east” - if such a conversation can take place at all. ...&quot; 

True.
 
&quot;... Nothing in my remarks denied the vast contributions of Aristotle and Homer ...&quot; 

yet, 

&quot; ... There are many natural virtues to admire in Europeans, but unsanctified by the Gospel, they are, in the end, of limited use ...&quot;

Id est, Europeans Aristotle and Homer have to their credit vast contributions, but they themselves are &quot;of limited use&quot;.

&quot;... Saint Thomas picked up Aristotle when he set about writing his system of theology. ...&quot; 

It was already XIII century, High Middle Ages, when Thomas Aquinas undertook the task of improving Christian apologetics. He had been shamed by learned Islamic interlocutors, who, in stark contrast, could put forth coherent philosophical arguments in defense of their own Middle Eastern creation. 

He must have found his scripture somewhat, shall we say, lacking, as he chanced turning to Greek giants of another era, if only they would provide bricks to insert under the shaky heavenly house, or at least add a moat to the venerable rack, boiling oil and stake in its defense.

Fortunately, there was an unintended benefit of this - a gradual reawakening of interest in Greek thought and culture in general, and science, mathematics and logic in particular, something that had been completely stymied by Christian madness in Dark Ages (a common term, synonymous with Early Middle Ages, from V to X century) and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Re. comment #33)</p>
<p>"... It is beyond the capacity of this medium to serve as the forum of a conversation among people who, on the one side, regard the Incarnation as the central event of human history, and on the other side, describe the religion that the Incarnation caused as a “monotheistic import from the middle east” - if such a conversation can take place at all. ..." </p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>"... Nothing in my remarks denied the vast contributions of Aristotle and Homer ..." </p>
<p>yet, </p>
<p>" ... There are many natural virtues to admire in Europeans, but unsanctified by the Gospel, they are, in the end, of limited use ..."</p>
<p>Id est, Europeans Aristotle and Homer have to their credit vast contributions, but they themselves are "of limited use".</p>
<p>"... Saint Thomas picked up Aristotle when he set about writing his system of theology. ..." </p>
<p>It was already XIII century, High Middle Ages, when Thomas Aquinas undertook the task of improving Christian apologetics. He had been shamed by learned Islamic interlocutors, who, in stark contrast, could put forth coherent philosophical arguments in defense of their own Middle Eastern creation. </p>
<p>He must have found his scripture somewhat, shall we say, lacking, as he chanced turning to Greek giants of another era, if only they would provide bricks to insert under the shaky heavenly house, or at least add a moat to the venerable rack, boiling oil and stake in its defense.</p>
<p>Fortunately, there was an unintended benefit of this - a gradual reawakening of interest in Greek thought and culture in general, and science, mathematics and logic in particular, something that had been completely stymied by Christian madness in Dark Ages (a common term, synonymous with Early Middle Ages, from V to X century) and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: robert reavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert reavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Captain. Anytime the hive stirs these days over written work is a good sign for the author. Most of the real traditionalist and conservatives in America are dead or dieing and of course the kids that have taken over don&#039;t like the way the old people smell and look.  You are different Chris and I commend you for it. 
  When Pat, Chronicles and a few of the other exiles pass, a crowd  will gather for the reading of the will---bleach blond hussies with deep voices from the talking head circuit, the little britches crowd in New York and Washington who have studied everything, everywhere and understand next to nothing, and the libertarians who think the neat thing about Job is that he was really just like them ---sorta.
   They won&#039;t be there to honor anyone but to discuss the market share that death or destitution has created.  Men like you and Bacevich won&#039;t be smiling and neither will those other faces we have known and loved.  Looking forward to the Summer School and the good conversations while they last. Robert Reavis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Captain. Anytime the hive stirs these days over written work is a good sign for the author. Most of the real traditionalist and conservatives in America are dead or dieing and of course the kids that have taken over don't like the way the old people smell and look.  You are different Chris and I commend you for it.<br />
  When Pat, Chronicles and a few of the other exiles pass, a crowd  will gather for the reading of the will---bleach blond hussies with deep voices from the talking head circuit, the little britches crowd in New York and Washington who have studied everything, everywhere and understand next to nothing, and the libertarians who think the neat thing about Job is that he was really just like them ---sorta.<br />
   They won't be there to honor anyone but to discuss the market share that death or destitution has created.  Men like you and Bacevich won't be smiling and neither will those other faces we have known and loved.  Looking forward to the Summer School and the good conversations while they last. Robert Reavis</p>
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