Living With the Albanians
In the current debate on the future of Kosovo, it is often overlooked that hundreds of thousands of Serbs and other non-Albanians had fled the province under Albanian pressure well before the KLA terror campaign of 1996-1998. Under Tito, the Albanians’ share of the population thus rose from 64 percent in 1953 to 77 percent immediately following his death in 1980.
To understand the conditions that prompted the exodus of non-Albanians from Kosovo even in peacetime, we don’t need to look further than Cherry Hill, NJ. This prosperous Philadelphia suburb known for good schools is the home to the Duka brothers, three “Yugoslav” Albanians arrested in connection with the jihadist plot to attack Fort Dix.
As we now know, the extended Duka family (three brothers, a grandmother, parents, wives, children) was in the habit of slaughtering lambs in their backyard with a kitchen knife. There were numerous complaints about fetid diapers tossed into an open trash dumpster that sat in the driveway, near an array of cars and pickup trucks without registration or license plates. Roosters ran about their yard, and juveniles roamed the neighborhood, sometimes setting off fireworks.
The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that police cited the Dukas repeatedly on disorderly persons charges, including marijuana possession, improper behavior, prowling, disturbing the peace, and obstructing the administration of law; they were fined between $20 and $830 on various occasions. The brothers were also issued some 50 traffic citations between 1997 and 2006 for speeding, driving without licenses, driving while on the suspended list, failure to appear in court, and other charges. They parked oversize trucks on the streets and operated unauthorized roofing business from home. But despite the attention from Cherry Hill code enforcers and police officers—who were called to the Duka home at least 10 times over the last seven years—their lifestyle of choice continued unhindered until they and three other Muslims (one of them also Albanian) were arrested four weeks ago.
Because of the Dukas’ behavior at least two families decided to move from the tree-lined street. According to the Inquirer, “a couple who requested that their last name not be published because they fear reprisals said they were one of the families who moved”:
Patty, 35, said the Duka family moved into the four-bedroom Colonial next to them in 1999. “First, they cut down all the trees for firewood,” she said. Then came the barnyard animals and the watermelon vines growing between their houses. On weekends, dozens of visitors would arrive in vans with New York license plates, the couple said. “The straw that broke the camel’s back was when I looked out my kitchen window and saw the women slit a lamb’s throat with a kitchen knife,” Patty said. “I was so upset, I called my husband on the phone. He said to call the police and I said, ‘No, call the Realtor,’” she said.
That option is available when there is but one Albanian family in a street—and even then you withhold your last name in fear of reprisals. When you are one of very few non-Albanian families left in a street, you’ll have explosive devices tossed into your house. When there are just a few of you left in a village, you’ll be killed, your churches will be ransacked and dynamited, and even the remains of your ancestors desecrated.
It is noteworthy that, like hundreds of thousands of their kinsmen in Kosovo who have been puring into southern Serbia from Albania ever since 1941, the Dukas were illegal immigrants: they came from Mexico as children many years ago. Had they not indulged in jihadism, no doubt they would have been amnestied in a year or two.
That the Dukas were evidently able to preserve and celebrate their national culture and their time-honored traditions in such a pristine form after so many years in the United States is a credit to their community’s resilience. That they have remained here for so long, undisturbed by immigration officials, even though that culture and those traditions had differed from those of the majority community is a clear proof of America’s commitment to diversity and a credit to her tolerance.
As Cherry Hill Mayor Bernie Platt commented on his township in the aftermath of the Duka case, “It’s a very progressive community.” True to his ideals, only last month Mr. Platt declared, at the ground-breaking ceremony for an Islamic house of worship in Cherry Hill, “We have many religions here . . . now, thank God, we’re going to have a mosque.”
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That is a riot - if I ever heard one, this has got to be it:
"Thank God we are going to have a mosquie"
Thank Lucifer we are going to have a God - sounds more acceptable and equally improbable.
Are all the politicians such sleazeballs or is this only in the North East? - Dr. Clyde Wilson should not anwer this question.
Boy, and I thought the Latinos with their multiple families and cars in a house could ruin a neighborhood. Slaughtering a sheep? You've got to be kidding.
Seeing this here in the US, I'm sure Dr. Trifkovic and others would laugh if they didn't know the "end of the matter", so to speak.
Dr. T,
Thanks for the reality check. This is the part the libs can never understand:
"That option (moving) is available when there is but one Albanian family in a street—and even then you withhold your last name in fear of reprisals. When you are one of very few non-Albanian families left in a street, you’ll have explosive devices tossed into your house. When there are just a few of you left in a village, you’ll be killed, your churches will be ransacked and dynamited, and even the remains of your ancestors desecrated."
I think you can replace the word 'Albanian' with Muslim, and still retain the truth of it.
The Serbs have been through too much.
Let's pray that God have mercy on the Serbs. It's time their fortune turned for the good.
When in Ottawa, Ontario some years ago one Italian kills lamb in his garage, and when his neighbour reported to the police, then Italian was charged for disturbances and jailed for six mounts.
When Albanian slit lamb in backyard, neighbour called the Realtor. But what is not tolerated; in Canada, it is tolerated in USA, we are more civilized. Well aren’t we, or something else.
But I would not agree that whole Islamic world should be compare with Albanians. Albanians are the most barbaric Muslims. To confirm this statement we should consider this, in the time of Ottoman Empire Turks cal them Arnauts. Aranauts in English translation means people with barbaric attitude. Ottomans were more civilized.
I am very sympathetic to all that Dr. Trifkovic has written with one minor quibble. Personally I don't see what raising fruits and vegetables and even slaughtering the occasional lamb in one's yard has to do with the other inconsiderate, noisy, agressive and violent activities listed. Is this the thin edge of the wedge? What about temporarily hanging a deer in the yard after a hunting trip? Have we come so far from our agrarian roots that we applaud a six month jail sentence for what is essentially an innocent activity that is also a very useful skill to pass down from father to son, Mr. Boyich. It all comes down to the local code when you buy your house, which is like a contract with your neighbors. A code that is completely unecessary when people from similar backgrounds with similar values are allowed to chose to live in the same neighborhood and protect their way of life from interlopers, especially of the official variety. If you don't know what your neighbors might think about a particular activity all it takes is asking. Maybe they won't mind keeping their children indoors the day before Easter, if you have otherwise good relations with them, to allow you to follow your tradition. For some people the perpetuation of the impression that meat is conveniently born wrapped in plastic at the local supermarket is very important. The key is that these particular Albanians have no regard at all for anyone but themselves. They should be driven from our shores.
even slaughtering the occasional lamb in one’s yard
Everything may have a time and place; would you let your children run naked through church?
The slaughter happened in a small suburban subdivision. If the wife next door was unready to be a part of that, than how many children could have been traumatized by witnessing it too?
Beyond keeping the law, there are more humane ways to slay an animal than slowly letting it bleed and suffocate to death. Animals suffer pain and pleasure as we do, and when we eat them we have the power to give them a better death than they would have in the wild. The woman was obviously horrified to see the lamb suffer and die like it did.
As Mr Boyich's reference to an Italian in Canada shows, this has nothing to do with Albanians or Kosovo. Some parts of Europe are still very isolated and old habits persist. It is precisely BECAUSE the Dukas left Europe a long time ago that they have not lost the old ways. The whole communist world lived in a 1930s time warp. A few yeras ago, I accompanied a Moldovan girl to a supermarket. Rather than pushing her trolley, she draged it behind her, crashing into everything. I had to explain to her that she should push it. She had quite simply never been in a supermarket before! I had never seen a supermarket until my family went to live in New Jersey in the 1960s, nor indeed had I ever seen a shower! That experience makes me tolerant of my East European brethern who have a lot of catching up to do. Believe me, they are learning very fast! If the Dukas had stayed in Europe, they would certainly not be living in the old-fashioned way they appear to have done in Cherry Hill.
this article is ridiculous!!!
first of all they werent albanian, they were macedonians. not all albanians are muslim.
i am a catholic albanian, and this is a ridiculous article.. albanians are the nicest and most trusting people around, dont look at the few bad apples because every nationality has a few idiots around that ruin the names of the whole nationality.
you pick a bad albanian like these people.. and i will pick a good albanian like mother theresa...
keep the hate away from the nationality..
How nice Albanian people are anyone can see on video below
http://www.serbianna.com/video/001.wmv
In 1943, the Nazis asked Albanian authorities for a list of the country's Jews. They refused to comply. "Jews were then taken from the cities and hidden in the countryside," Goldfarb explained. "Non-Jewish Albanians would steal identity cards from police stations [for Jews to use]. The underground resistance even warned that anyone who turned in a Jew would be executed." ... "There were actually more Jews in the country after the war than before — thanks to the Albanian traditions of religious tolerance and hospitality." [8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_assisted_Jews_during_the_Holocaust
This is how we Albanians are and treat people...no matter who they are we would give our life's to save them......when they are in our country..........both Albanian Christians or Muslims...its an Albanian tradition. That's greater then our religion.......
For Rocky above's edification:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Skanderbeg_(1st_Albanian)
Albanian "tolerance" in action.
For Tony: they were ethnic Albanians from the border between Kosovo and Macedonia.
At least the situation in New Jersey is not quite as bad as this.
"Thousands fear as blood feuds sweep Albania"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/03/wfeud03.xml
I was born in 1963 and spent my first seven years in Kosovo, in the city of Pec. I was about six years old when my mother sent me to the shop that was in the basement of our building. The shop owner, an Albanian, took a knife, pointed with it to my face and said he was going to kill me. I went home screaming. My parents went downstairs, but the Albanian acted as if he didn't know what they were talking about and I made it all up. On another ocassion, my mother saw that the Yugoslav flag was thrown to the mud (and Albanian put in its place - yes, they were flying the flag of another state). She picked it up and tried to put it back to the right place. She was about 30 at this time - promptly she was surrounded by Albanians who were humiliating her, telling her she's a whore, and one of them put his dirty fingers on her. There was no chance to get any help from the authorities, because they were busy developing "brotherhood and unity" (this is how multiculturalism was called in ex-Yugoslavia) and fighting against the "Serbian nationalism", which for most members of the communist nomenklatura (including also ethnic Serbs) was the main content of their lives. My parents moved to a city elsewhere in Serbia (outside of Kosovo). The authorities made very clear to my father that he'd have problems and we'd be prevented from attending a university, if he were to talk about the violence that we Serbs in Kosovo were exposed to. What happened to our family was in no way special and we should consider ourselves rather lucky, - Serbs living in villages were killed, girls were raped, they were humiliated on daily basis. But even our family never really recovered from this combined Albanian and state violence. Even though we were not any more in Kosovo and my sister and I could go out and play my mother was depressed, was afraid of leaving home, was afraid from letting us play outside etc. etc. We never really recovered as a family.
The worst thing is that Albanians never had to question their savage ways, violence and crime. It brought them only good, so why changing anything? And my personal situation - did it change after all? Today I live in Germany, run a business and employ people, - nevertheless I cannot sign this post with my full name. I am sure that if an Albanian would decide to kill me, he could probably do it without much fear from a punishement (he could simply go to Kosovo and nobody would bother). Who would care if a single Serbian woman would be killed? We live like U-boots, work a lot and keep low profile. We have to consider ourselves happy, when we are not tortured, raped and killed and allowed to live and work, however, we cannot hope to get any justice, any sort of moral compensation for what we have been through and still are. Nothing has changed. And on the top of this gigantic unjustice comes that we are so busy fighting for survival that we have forgotten to have children, while the Albanians, livinig from drug and human trafficing can afford plenty of them. These children will not be killing mine, because I have none. But they will be killing children of those who have helped them to become so strong.
Thank you for your clarification Tony. Perhaps you should inform the CIA to correct their figures - they seem to be convinced how Albanians are predominantly Muslim 75% to 85% (conservatively) - but what do they know? It only counts what Tony says. However there are some evil sources claiming more likely to be true: Most Albanians are indeed Muslim – according to the CIA’s conservative reports the Muslims constitute about 75% to 85% of the population. The most recent development at JFK airport involves more peace-loving Muslims who designed to blow up the airport: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070603/ap_on_re_us/terrorism_plot
Even the European Interpol seem confused having listed Albanians as Serbians, but I don't remember that any Serbian name sounded so Albanian ever before. List of the Interpol's most wanted in Austria: Albanian criminals exceeding the modest number of four, according to the Austrian Interpol: MORINA Drilon, REXHEPAJ Nazif, THERQAJ Ardian, GECAJ Ded, Spahiu Leonard, Hajredini Gentjan, MALAJ Arlind, LATIFI Lulzim, GURGUROVCI Ibrahim, ZYMERI Rrahim, AMETAJ Sabit, FRROKU Lek - all listed as citizens of Serbia. Shoot me if there is one Serbian name there.
So, what do you think Tony? Are these also Catholic Albanians or Serbian imposters who took Albanian sounding names? How about the Albanian sounding Duka family from Cherry Hill, NJ who planned an attack on the Fort Dix military base?
This is exactly why most Americans do not comprehand how hard it is to deal with Albanians - they are compulsive liars and sworn to uphold any view that furthers their goals - irrespective from the truth. Just look at this Tony here and try to think of being surrounded by 1 million of those. What are the odds of trying to live with any degree of mutual respect and honesty? NONE.
Tony tells us that this family were not Albanian, but Macedonian. They were of course Albanians from the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. Or, in the language of political correctness: "Macevars".
michael...
these people do not consider themselfs albanian!!! get it thru your head!!!
they do no believe in natonality.. they only call their selfs muslims.. not albanian..
and i call them macedonian since they come from macedonia!!!
Sure Tony...
Albanians from Kosovo-Metohija are not Albanians but Serbians, given that Kosovo-Metohija has always been Serbian land !!!
the only comment I have is:
this is such an immature article + writer.....it's not even worth it to respond, but I thought I'd enlighten you ppl: Albanians are the best kind of ppl.
If at all possible i would like to see ur evidence of these rash claims, i am in ireland and i have met albanian people here and london,all my meetings are very pleasant and i have never seen any of these things you have put forward, you may try to convince those people wit a IQ average of 0 but this attack against good and kind warm people such as albanians will not make a difference, as we all do people will protect their homes and country, but these commments are like wen the loyalists tried to turn everyone against the irish, it did not work however and ur claims will only make you look worse, Albania is aspiring to join EU and they will have support from all counties who no the tryanny of people such as those who make these claims, it is a contry of rich culture and honourable people wit alot to offer the world, karen
Calm down, Albanians!
No doubt that Albanians are the “best kind of people “ which is why they have to leave Kosovo-Metohija and go back to the best country on earth Albania. They also should occupy countries of the EU and the USA for there is where they belong to and continue behaving like Albanian aliens behave in Kosovo – usurping Serbian properties, burning Serbian houses and villages and killing everyone who speaks Serbian !!!
If Albanians are so-called "terrorists" then why is KosovA a top priority for the Republic of Serbia and he citizens? I mean who wants to annex a terror state and then have to live with those people?
Your logic amuses me!
Albanians are like every other nationality out there. You have your bright apples and then you not so bright apples (Rockhard/Tony, the same guy constitutes for this label).
I too am not an Albanian but soon to be 'dhander'....
....oh and another thing; I've been to Kosova, I've been to Macedonia and Albania proper and let me tell you, the famous Albanian hospitality that you read on about in their literature is still prevalent to this day. I have never come across such heart-warming, respectful peoples.
Anyone who incites religious hatred amongst Albanians, I was told is considered an outsider, an enemy because he/she wishes division. Serbs, ironically, are notorious when it comes to this.
FACT: Albanian's and Kosova's capitals, both Muslim in majority house the statues of arguably the most respected figures in Christianity, Skenderbeg and Mother Teresa. Albanians are true proponents of what we here in America aim for, religious pluralism.
In the words of Bardhi,
"Rroft Shqiptaria"
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Dear Fellow Albanians!
Here three articles for your daily formative upbringing :
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/071.shtml
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/076.shtml
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/089.shtm
A well-documented and accurate article.
Well done. Keep up the good work.
T.Ch.
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umm moderator...
there were many posts by albanians.. that werent offensive at all.. just saying not to generalize and other stuff like that...
but because they said no it is wrong and this is propaganda it was deleted.. but the posts degrading albanians are kept... i doubt that is fair and this is all favorism...
Taken from the CIA Factbook:
Albania:
70% Muslim
30% other (catholic/orthodox Christians, etc).
Kosovo:
92% Muslim (Albanians)
8% other (mostly Serbs).
Well, my dear fellow Albanians:
This is how your countrymen behave also in Kosovo-Metohija today:
[Sunday Telegraph, June 3, 2007 - “Thousands fear as blood feuds sweep Albania”]
…”By rights, medieval customs such as blood feuds should be a thing of the past. While Albania remains a clan-based society, today's younger generation are generally much more reluctant than their ancestors were to spill blood in defence of family honour. Yet recently, the problem has got much worse - after clan chiefs, in a bizarre adaptation to 21st century ways, ruled that families could "outsource" blood feuds to professional contract killers.
The ruling, last year, has seen blood feuds being pursued with far more ruthless efficiency than before, resulting in an explosion in the number of the killings..."
detlef.... did you read the entire CIA fact book?? your CIA fact book also says this under the religion part....
note: percentages are estimates; there are no available current statistics on religious affiliation; all mosques and churches were closed in 1967 and religious observances prohibited; in November 1990, Albania began allowing private religious practice
what u posted are estimates..... albania has no offical religion.. those numbers are from long ago!!!!!
if you are going to quote a fact book read all fine print..
you are using facts wrong because those are estimated guesses.. not actual numbers...
and your CIA book has no info on Kosovo... sooo that was just pulled out of thin air...
you mis used the albania one cause u failed to see the note where it says estimates not actual numbers....
and using kosovo as if u found it... is also phoney... many kosovars are also catholic...
Albania was the first declared atheist country in the world. Religion has never played a large role in Albanian culture. People who claim to be muslims and christians are culturaly muslims and christians, they don't practice it or take it serious.
38Besmir
Yes, wonderfull job the chronicles magazine does by posting an article by an Orthodox Serb who denies there ever being a genocide in the Balkans caused by Serbians and there ever being such thing as rape camps in Bosnia. Who would have though that this article wasn’t going to be biased. Thats like having the Iranian government write a book on the history of the holocaust. Obviously this subject must have touched a nerve on Mr.Trifkovic and he wrote with an emotional baggage in which a scholar should never do, because clearly from beginning your goal was to bash Albanians. You neglected to touch on the fundemental issues of Jihads and them recrutting and motivating young men to commit such crimes, but you take this opportunity to bash and insult Albanians. You post trivial incedents of there being diapers on the yard and there being a rocous and boisterous noise caused by these Albanians. This young men didn’t plan that attack for Albanians, they planned it on the name of Islam. Albanians have absolutetly not hate against Americans, we only have appreciation for there generous and benevolent spirits.
Skenderbeg Was a SERB!
As fate would have it Ц or, as one monastic said, someoneТs ill hand Ц Serb sacred places were on fire last month, both on Mt. Athos and in Metochia.
The hands of that "someone" have laid low the national pride of the Serbs, a celestial row of churches who gathered the spiritual wealth of a nation; preserved the old and added the new testimonies of resistance to tyranny; protected the weak, the infirm, the persecuted and the just in defending human liberty from barbaric instincts of tyrants to dominate the souls of the living with fire and sword.
Hilandar burned first, to the very walls of the УArbanas pirgФ and the tombstones of Jovan and Repos Kastriotic, Serb nobles from Albania, father and eldest brother of Djuradj (George) Kastrotic, better known as Skenderbeg. Something halted the hand of the arsonist at the very spot that shatters the lie about the origins of the "Albanian hero." What better proof that places that preserve Serbia history are sacred?
His mother, Voisava, daughter of a respected Serbian noble from Polog, hardly had time to know her little boy before Djuradj was sent as a hostage to the court of sultan Suleyman I. There he took Islam and the name Skenderbeg (Iskander-bey), after Alexander (УIskanderФ) the Great, whose exploits were know to the Turks from eastern legends. Djuradj earned his new name in wargames on open field, besting his competitors in Уwrestling, fighting and javelin-throwing,Ф and earning on his 18th birthday the rank of sanjak-bey and command of five thousand cavalry from sultan Murat II.
He eventually took the cavalry and defected to the Christian side, fighting the SultanТs armies for the next quarter century. In exchange for support from Pope Pious II, who was more concerned with the Orthodox "schismatics" than with Turkish invasions and depredations, Djuradj converted to Catholicism. Therefore, when he died Уof strong feverФ in mid-January 1468, he was not buried next to his father and brother in Hilandar, but his body was laid to rest at an Orthodox Church of St. Nicholas, above Lles.
The fires of Hilandar did not burn the truth that Jovan Kastriotic had nine children with Voisava, four sons - Repos, Stanisa, Konstantin and Djuradj, mentioned in that order in the chronicles of Athanasios, abbot of the Hilandar monastery; and five daughters - Mara, Jela, Andjelija, Vlaitsa and Mamitsa. It was written that the eldest, Mara, married Stefan Crnojevic, Vlaitsa married Stefan Balsic. Skenderbeg's only son, Ivan, married Irina, daughter of Lazar Brankovic and granddaughter of Djuradj Brankovic. This information was verified by Koenigsberg scholar Karl Kopf, historian, ethnographer an archeologist who researched the Kastriotic genealogy in the mid-1800s at the behest of the Imperial Academy of Sciences in Vienna.
Skenderbeg's Serbian origin was remembered the longest in Montenegro. In his letter to the Venetian doge (1757), the metropolitan of Montenegro Vasilije Petrovic mentions "the Serbian hero Skenderbeg." He repeats the same in his letters with Russian empress Elisabeth, citing as his own ancestors Djuradj Kastriotic and Ivan Crnojevic. Drekalovic, the largest clan among the Kuc tribe, nurtures the history of Skenderbeg as their progenitor, through his grandson Drekalo.
The Hilandar fire spared the main chapel, where in the inner narthex, surrounding the fresco or the Virgin with Christ, contains the images of St. Simeon (Stefan Nemanja) and his son St. Sava, and the inscription underneath: "presented by Lord's servant Repos 6936 - (1431) - an authentic testimony that Skenderbeg's eldest brother spent time as a monk in Hilandar before his death.
Little noted these days is that Albanians were involved in putting out the fire that attacked the holy mountain's only Serb monastery. Farm hands hired by the monks to work at the monastery estate, these Albanians saved many precious treasures of the Church.
What they saved on Holy Mt. Athos, other Albanians burned in the holy land of Metochia. Of the thirty-five churches and monasteries damaged and destroyed, the first was the church of Blessed Virgin of Ljevis in Prizren. It used to be a metropolitan seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church, granted numerous estates by King Milutin. Among its contributors stands the name of Pavle Kastriotic, Skenderbeg's grandfather, who donated fifty florins and had estates comprising several villages in the Mata river valley.
Before their rampage, the pathetic arsonists had erected a statue of Skenderbeg in Pristina's main square. It is good that they have done so. He can remind them they are a people without history, who destroy that of others in order to forcibly conjure up their own.
S. please dont be a fool and say skenderbeg was a serb...
he was albanian...
what you are posting is propaganda about skenderbeg... not fact... only a few serbs say skenderbeg was serb... i even heard of greeks saying he was greek...
get real information... not phoney information.. he was albanian and rose the albanian flag in albania....
please dont make yourself look like a fool... by spreading lies about our national hero...
if he really was serb.. how come serbs dont celebrate him?? hmm let me think because it is a lie to anger albanians, made up by people...
ONCE AGAIN ! --- Before their rampage, the pathetic arsonists had erected a statue of Skenderbeg in Pristina’s main square. It is good that they have done so. He can remind them they are a people without history, who destroy that of others in order to forcibly conjure up their own.
there is a statue of skenderbeg in italy and austria and albania...
so i guess he is also part italian and austrian... huh???
skenderbeg is a national hero... and he is admired in other places in europe... you are thinking cause the statue is in pristina means hes serb??
go to austria where his museum n statue are and a different statue of him in skenderbeg...
please think before anything cause u keep repeating bull!!!! and making up your own theories from bull!!!
and hello he also rose the albanian flag over albania after a battle.. why did he never raise the serbian flag?? cause he isnt serb... thats a lie like even greeks said hes greek...
just cause his statue is in pristina doesnt mean anything... during his time pristina was in albania...
and like i said before he has statues in austria and italy....
serbias greak hero is the killer arkan...
if it wasnt for skenderbeg god knows what the turks would have done to europe... even worse damage,.,
he was albanian catholic.. n the turks raised him as turkish muslim.. he found out n fought them...
keep your serbian lies out of here
the article isnt accurate… this guy is taking his hate for albanians and making a generalzation on all albanians…and others are spreading their hate for albanians...
this can be said about any nationality who has a few crazzy nut jobs… even the serbs who killed bosnians and albanians but are acting innocent..
those low lifes that planned the fort dix attack… did it for Islam and not albanians…they were married to arabs and dressed like arabs…they made dvds showing how they were doing it for jihad so arabs and alqeda can see how good they are doing it for islam n not for albanians.. it was for a Islamic cause and noting to do with albanians who have noting to do with islam... and these people are spreading hate on all albanians!!
no albanian would plan what those people planned to do… in the name of any god… this guy is making it like all albanians are muslim and all albanians are evil and kill.. when that isnt the case…
other albanians will call their selfs albanian…these people at that attack did it for islam not albania or albanians!!! serbs did what they did to bosnians and kosovars in the name of all serbs… these 4 guys did what they did in the name of islam.. not albania…
AND THIS GUY IS GENERALIZING ALL ALBANIANS, AS WELL AS THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HATE ALBANIANS!!!
and why is it when someone posts about the hate serbs have n the crimes they did and the lies they make it gets deleted?? but the lies and hate about albanians stays??
Ok wait one second i cant stop laughing at the serbs trying to make the great albanian hero a serb......lmaooooooooooo....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skanderbeg
George Kastrioti Skenderbeu (Albanian: Gjergj Kastrioti) widely known as Skanderbeg (Albanian: Skënderbeu from Turkish İskender Bey, meaning "Lord Alexander"), is one of the most prominent historical figures in the history of Albania and the Albanian people. He is also known as the Dragon of Albania[1] and is the national hero of the Albanians. He is remembered for his struggle against the Ottoman Empire, through the work of his first biographer, Marin Barleti.[2] He was of Roman Catholic faith.
Enjoy readind it serbs.....He was both albanian and catholic....two groups u hate.......life is tough sometimes...
Hey Tony/ArabMuhammad/Rockhard/Vajze e Mire/Sweet_vajze/Skanderbeg/TTT, whatever name you're posting under these days...
Your opinions does not differ all that much from a nationalistic Serb. You're closer to one more so than you think. Malsia can do wonders I tell ya hahahha. Your anti-Muslim rhetoric is growing very very old. Go find a hobby. Those people didn't intend on attacking Fort Dix in the name of nobody but themselves...especially not Islam and Albanians, same as your bigoted opinion...it does not represent nor does it speak for each of us!
Please state your opinion and be a bit more objective if you're going to speak out on the behalf of Albanians. Keep in mind that 80% of us are Muslim but shoo away the terrorist myth.
We house statues of Christian figures. You should be proud of your Muslim bretheren. Not once have we discriminated against you as a Catholic!
Dude when it comes to albanians I'm loyal But on Islam....thats one thing i dont support at all......if u want to debate Islam thats fine.....and i can tell you why I dont like Islam.....I never made it a secret......I'm against the site when he attacks albanians as people.. as far as Islam goes......u know where i thinik Islam should go lol
Islam is far bigger then a few albanians being Muslims...\
Albanian Islam is not dangerous real Islam Is dangerous to all none Muslims.........something u can't deny unless u want to stick your head up your ass like some serbs do with it comes to thier crimes.
hey x...
these serbian people are saying its all albanians... and attacking albanians...
you are yelling at the wrong people!!!!!
these people didnt do it for albanians.. but for islam... and these people here are talking bad about all albanians christian and muslims.. and you are keeoing their side
and your 80% is based on estimates.. not real numbers...
wow you muslims albanians always side with the enemy that with other albanians....
oh n before i forget.... me n skenderbeg... 2 different people.. so x.. think before u talk... me n him know who u are n u are pathetic trash talking me n him for whatever...
think what u want...
No I don't side with bigoted people (regardless of their ethnicity). You dont want them generalizing about Albanians but then you become one of them by generalizing about Islam. Tell me how hypocritical is that? What does Christ say about hypocrisy? huh? Debate objectively...its not a crime to be Muslim. Those people were psychos who planned the attack, regardless of their race/nationality/religion. America is our biggest ally out there.
Where as the Orthodox Church in Kosova was approved by millions of Serbs. it was the same church that committed atrocities against your fellow muslim albanians and was not condemned by anyone.
So quit your anti-Muslim rhetoric...you're not making us look good! Shoo away! pederat e kqi!
x,,,
you cant deny that they were doing it for islam...
they wanted to make dvds... to send them so arabs can see how they are fighting jihad or whatever..
they were doing it for islam... they werent doing it cause they felt likt it.. and they werent doing it for albanians..
people here are saying all albanians are like that.. no!!! no albanian is like that...
and do you have any idea how many times someone wrote oh serbs killed kosovars and bosnians but it was deleted???
quit your anti albanian catholic thing... or whatever you have against skenderbeg... either stop replying because you are disgracing it by turning the hate serbs have for albanians into the hate you have for me n him!!!!
go back to albanian music!!!
oh and this article is anti albanian....
the people were anti american and everything non islamic...
sooo yes go defend the people who didnt consider themselfs albanian.. while others attack albanians.. you disgrace...
Idiot religion is something anyone can choose to have or leave but your nationality is something U were born with. its in your blood, your DNA U cant change it........Islam is for the birds...lol
And for men who are married, and want more wifes part time...on the side without thier wifes knowing about it...its all Islamic...
Read your replies and then go on and read the article. Y
ou three all have smth in common, as I said before. You hate Albanians (muslims) and that is a FACT. You people hate for no freaking reason.
I made my opinion clear up above where one of you even quoted me and elaborated on one of my fine points...but I beg you both to stop. You're making a disgrace of Albanians!
p.s. the author has a book on "defeating jihad" lol, you two might be interested; in fact I know you're both interested, wouldn't surprise me if you already bought it!